Re: how to update freebsd? newbie

2004-07-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
 i am sorry if this is a stupid question i ask but i am willing to see if
 someone helps me to understand the freebsd update process, i just came
 from redhat so forgive me

why do you need update while you are newbie. first learn what you have.
Unix is not windows (and in last years - not Redhat) - you don't need to
have new version ust because it was released.
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Re: how to update freebsd? newbie

2004-07-21 Thread Dick Davies
* Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0711 08:11]:
  i am sorry if this is a stupid question i ask but i am willing to see if
  someone helps me to understand the freebsd update process, i just came
  from redhat so forgive me
 
 why do you need update while you are newbie.

So he doesn't get rooted?

not keeping ports up to date will bite you in the ass, newbie or not.
not checking regularly for security updates will do the same..

-- 
Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, The moon is more useful
than the sun.  Why?, he was asked.  Because at night we need the
light more.
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how to update freebsd? newbie

2004-07-20 Thread Ara
hi
i am sorry if this is a stupid question i ask but i am willing to see if
someone helps me to understand the freebsd update process, i just came
from redhat so forgive me
i did couple of readings on line and used handbook, even bought a
freebsd unleashed book, but i still have not got this
i have to install cvsup-without-GUI and then synchronize the sources.
then sync the port collection and then build work to keep it updated/
but build work takes a while and i don't think this is a good idea to do
everyday. is there any way so i can just get the required packages built
or even download a pre-made package from ftp? also what happens let's
say i install gimp 2.x and next week 2.y comes up, is there any way so
it automatically checks everyday to see if there is a new version and
download and install from packages?
help is appreciated

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Re: how to update freebsd? newbie

2004-07-20 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tuesday 20 July 2004 10:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 i am sorry if this is a stupid question i ask but i am willing to see
 if someone helps me to understand the freebsd update process, i just
 came from redhat so forgive me
 i did couple of readings on line and used handbook, even bought a
 freebsd unleashed book, but i still have not got this
 i have to install cvsup-without-GUI and then synchronize the sources.
 then sync the port collection and then build work to keep it updated/
 but build work takes a while and i don't think this is a good idea to
 do everyday. is there any way so i can just get the required packages
 built or even download a pre-made package from ftp? also what happens
 let's say i install gimp 2.x and next week 2.y comes up, is there any
 way so it automatically checks everyday to see if there is a new
 version and download and install from packages?
 help is appreciated

FreeBSD has a cleaner separation between core system applications and 
non-system, extra applications that can be installed from the ports.  
When you cvsup, you download changes to the source code of the system.  
You can also, depending upon your chosen configuration, download 
changes to the ports and documentation.

When you download the source code, it doesn't mean that you are 
compiling it.  You can compile it later at a time of your choosing.  
Also, since you're only downloading changes since your last cvsup, 
nightly or weekly cvsups will take less time.

The ports system includes directions for your system to download and 
compile source code for applications.  When you cvsup the ports, you 
are only downloading changes to the ports system.  No port applications 
are installed or upgraded as a result of the cvsup process.

You may wish to investigate portupgrade 
(at /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade/), a port that helps you upgrade 
installed ports and keep your installed applications in sync.

You can download and install precompiled, binary packages directly from 
the ftp site using pkg_add with the -r option (see man pkg_add).

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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