Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-05 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 04 February 2010, Mike Clarke wrote:

 Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional? I'm
 running Firefox 3.5.7 with linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 on
 8.0-RELEASE-p2, some flash videos work but many fail. For example BBC
 iplayer always comes up with a message This content doesn't seem to
 be working. Try again later superimposed over a still image of the
 start of the video. YouTube videos play but without any sound.

Thanks for the replies which show that the problem lies with my setup 
rather than within the flash player. On further investigation I saw 
that about:plugins showed 2 different flash plugins, one from 
linux-f10-flashplugin-10 and the other from swfdec-plugin. Since the 
FreeBSD handbook explained how to install both these plugins I assumed 
that I needed to install both of them but I now see from the port 
description that swfdec-plugin can only play Flash 4 files so it's not 
surprising that this caused problems.

I've uninstalled swfdec-plugin and swfdec and things are much better, 
BBC Iplayer videos and YouTube work fine now. Oddly Iplayer still come 
up with the same error for BBC radio programmes but they work fine 
via listen now and I can download podcasts as mp3 files so I can live 
with that, especially since I don't need flash very often.

Since swfdec-plugin can't play recent flash files and hasn't had any 
development for over a year I'm surprised the FreeBSD handbook still 
explains how to install it and doesn't even mention that it conflicts 
with the linux flash plugin.

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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-04 Thread RW
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:29:57 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 
 
   Is there a way of streaming stuff like old tv shows, the
   bbc-player, and pbs steams on the freebsd version of
 firefox35?

Currently the best way of using BBC iplayer is a perl script called
get_iplayer which downloads DRM-free mp4 files intended for
mobile-devices. I don't think it's in ports, but you can download it as
a single file, which self-upgrades. It can access other interfaces for
radio programmes too. The last time I checked the  official iplayer
application didn't install under wine.

The online version is flash-based and should work with anything that
supports flash - I still  use windows firefox under wine, but it
probably will work with linux flash under emulation. 

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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-04 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 04 February 2010, Adam Vande More wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 Is there a way of streaming stuff like old tv shows, the
 bbc-player, and pbs steams on the freebsd version of
  firefox35?
 
 thought i'd give it a last try since everything is upgraded
  on my desktop.

 /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10

Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional? I'm 
running Firefox 3.5.7 with linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 on 
8.0-RELEASE-p2, some flash videos work but many fail. For example BBC 
iplayer always comes up with a message This content doesn't seem to be 
working. Try again later superimposed over a still image of the start 
of the video. YouTube videos play but without any sound.

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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-04 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.ukwrote:

 Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional? I'm
 running Firefox 3.5.7 with linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 on
 8.0-RELEASE-p2, some flash videos work but many fail. For example BBC
 iplayer always comes up with a message This content doesn't seem to be
 working. Try again later superimposed over a still image of the start
 of the video. YouTube videos play but without any sound.


I don't have either of those issues.  I've come across a couple of players
that don't work, but all the standard ones like youtube, pbs, bbc all work
perfectly for me.

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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-04 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Mike Clarke 
 jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.ukwrote:

 Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional? I'm
 running Firefox 3.5.7 with linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 on
 8.0-RELEASE-p2, some flash videos work but many fail. For example BBC
 iplayer always comes up with a message This content doesn't seem to be
 working. Try again later superimposed over a still image of the start
 of the video. YouTube videos play but without any sound.


 I don't have either of those issues.  I've come across a couple of players
 that don't work, but all the standard ones like youtube, pbs, bbc all work
 perfectly for me.


I would like to amemd that statement by saying they work perfectly for me
except for an occasional temporary browser freeze.  This occur when entering
or leaving a page at which point the entire browser will hang for maybe 30
seconds then recover and perform as usual.  This a random event, but
probably occurs at least daily.


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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-04 Thread Robert Huff

Mike Clarke writes:

  Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional?

Possible causes:

the Linux plugin doesn't have all the capabilities of the
Windows version.
the Linux plugin does not interface completely/correctly with
the Linux emulation layer.
the Linux   emulation layer does not interface completely/
correctly with the rest of FreeBSD. 

I don't watch much Flash, so I almost never have the problem
you describe.


Robert Huff

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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-04 Thread Bob Johnson
On 2/4/10, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Adam Vande More
 amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Mike Clarke
 jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.ukwrote:

 Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional? I'm
[...]


 I don't have either of those issues.  I've come across a couple of players
 that don't work, but all the standard ones like youtube, pbs, bbc all work
 perfectly for me.


 I would like to amemd that statement by saying they work perfectly for me
 except for an occasional temporary browser freeze.  This occur when entering
 or leaving a page at which point the entire browser will hang for maybe 30
 seconds then recover and perform as usual.  This a random event, but
 probably occurs at least daily.

When I upgraded one of my systems a few months ago, it had that
symptom, except it happened every time I entered a page that included
flash. I ended up uninstalling flash because it was too annoying and I
didn't really need it on that system.

More recently, I set up a system with flash and it works fine except
that in YouTube I often have to refresh the page to get the video to
load. For some reason the player doesn't seem to initialize when I
enter the page, but reloading it always works ok.

I suspect most of the problems people are having with Flash 10 have to
do with lingering old libraries or something like that. A brute force
rebuild of all ports might fix them. Also, pay attention to the
correct make.conf settings for the Linux kernel stuff.

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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-04 Thread Chuck Robey
Mike Clarke wrote:
 On Thursday 04 February 2010, Adam Vande More wrote:
 
 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Is there a way of streaming stuff like old tv shows, the
bbc-player, and pbs steams on the freebsd version of
 firefox35?

thought i'd give it a last try since everything is upgraded
 on my desktop.
 /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
 
 Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional? I'm 
 running Firefox 3.5.7 with linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 on 
 8.0-RELEASE-p2, some flash videos work but many fail. For example BBC 
 iplayer always comes up with a message This content doesn't seem to be 
 working. Try again later superimposed over a still image of the start 
 of the video. YouTube videos play but without any sound.
 

I've been using gnash with firefox, *everything* doesn't play, but the majority
does.  I really don't like being forced to use Linux things, and it seems that
gnash nicely gets that accomplished.  Note that the gnash install, right out of
the port, it's broken, so read up on drivers, and *replace* (not add to) your
current flash player with gnash.  I found that if you enter about:plugins
directly into the URL entry box on firefox, you got a whole lot of very useful
info about the current state of firefox plugins.  It'll tell you if there are
other flash plugins which need search  destroy.  What you have to do is to make
softlinks, but where, exactly, that's stretching my firefox knowledge.  I
personally, did get lucky.

Maybe I should say that someone on the freebsd lists pointed me at the
about:plugins, but I actually first thought it was some web page, so I had to
flop about like a fish out of water for a little while.  It's a html page, yes,
but built directly, dynamically, by firefox.
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this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-03 Thread Gary Kline


Is there a way of streaming stuff like old tv shows, the
bbc-player, and pbs steams on the freebsd version of firefox35?

thought i'd give it a last try since everything is upgraded on
my desktop.




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Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?

2010-02-03 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:



Is there a way of streaming stuff like old tv shows, the
bbc-player, and pbs steams on the freebsd version of firefox35?

thought i'd give it a last try since everything is upgraded on
my desktop.


/usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10


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