what actually happens with rejected mail?

2003-06-30 Thread Marco Beishuizen

Hi,

I'm using sendmail as MTA and fetchmail to fetch my mail from my ISP.
To filter spam I use the /etc/mail/access file and mark domains and
adresses from spammers with an ERROR:550.

Everything is working fine, but now I wonder what happens with the
spammail that is being rejected? Are those spammails being deleted? Or
are they send back to my ISP? My maillogfiles show that spam is
correctly filtered, and a message with the errorcode is send back. But
who else is seeing those errormessages?

Thanks in advance,

Marco

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Re: what actually happens with rejected mail?

2003-06-30 Thread Chuck Swiger
Marco Beishuizen wrote:
[ ... ]
Everything is working fine, but now I wonder what happens with the
spammail that is being rejected? Are those spammails being deleted? Or
are they send back to my ISP? My maillogfiles show that spam is
correctly filtered, and a message with the errorcode is send back. But
who else is seeing those errormessages?
Probably nobody.  Normally, when your mail server rejects an incoming message 
with a 5xx, the sending MTA is supposed to generate a DSN to the sender, letting 
them know that their attempt to mail you failed (with the reason you gave).

In the case of spam, that address is typically forged and the spamware MTA may 
well simply drop the reject.

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Re: what actually happens with rejected mail?

2003-06-30 Thread John Von Essen
The reject email summary will most likely never reach the sender, but
things like User Unknown are communicated during the SMTP conversation,
in which the sending spammer will get some info indicating that you are a
bad recipient. Spammers usually try their best to get rid of addresses
that they know is bad. This is why milters are so good. You can have the
milter send back a 550 User unknown when you encounter spam.

John

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Chuck Swiger wrote:

 Marco Beishuizen wrote:
 [ ... ]
  Everything is working fine, but now I wonder what happens with the
  spammail that is being rejected? Are those spammails being deleted? Or
  are they send back to my ISP? My maillogfiles show that spam is
  correctly filtered, and a message with the errorcode is send back. But
  who else is seeing those errormessages?

 Probably nobody.  Normally, when your mail server rejects an incoming message
 with a 5xx, the sending MTA is supposed to generate a DSN to the sender, letting
 them know that their attempt to mail you failed (with the reason you gave).

 In the case of spam, that address is typically forged and the spamware MTA may
 well simply drop the reject.

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 -Chuck


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