Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-10 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:31:41PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Glen Barber wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:
  Are you starting hald and dbus via rc.conf?
 
  Yes ... both mouse and keyboard have been working great ...
 
 
  Well, that's good to hear. ;)
 
  Thought I'd as to be safe.
 
 Ya, that was the easiest problems to search on google and get fixed :)
 
 I'm going to try downgrading to xorg 7.3 ... I'm having headaches with 
 fonts (Location bar in firefox3 is unreadable, although all pages are fine 
 ... mail messagesin mulberry are unreadable, although the message index is 
 *just* readable, etc) ... someone mentioned some changes in 7.4 concerning 
 fonts, and I figure, my luck, this might be something that is trickling 
 into other areas :(

for me xorg 7.4 doesn't work at all on 7.1-stable i386 Compaq Armada 1700
laptop, I get no device found at X -configure stage. It worked fine with
7.3. The graphics device is Chips and Technologies. When I use vesa driver
instead I get to the graphics screen, but still no mouse or keyboard.
And if I enable_hald=YES in rc.conf, my cdrom is not working at all.
I submitted a PR on this:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/131426


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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-10 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:39:33PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

 for me xorg 7.4 doesn't work at all on 7.1-stable i386 Compaq Armada 1700

Sorry, do you really run FreeBSD with xorg on this machine? This laptop
must be at least 10 years old, right?

 laptop, I get no device found at X -configure stage. It worked fine with
 7.3. The graphics device is Chips and Technologies. When I use vesa driver

Do you have [x] CHIPS enabled when you run make config in
x11-drivers/xorg-drivers? I guess this should install the right driver
for your Armada.

 instead I get to the graphics screen, but still no mouse or keyboard.

Did you follow the hints in /usr/ports/UPDATING?


Uwe

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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-10 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:28:09PM +0100, Uwe Laverenz wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:39:33PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 
  for me xorg 7.4 doesn't work at all on 7.1-stable i386 Compaq Armada 1700
 
 Sorry, do you really run FreeBSD with xorg on this machine? This laptop
 must be at least 10 years old, right?

I keep it as an additional test box. The issue is that 7.3 worked and 7.4
doesn't on this box.

  laptop, I get no device found at X -configure stage. It worked fine with
  7.3. The graphics device is Chips and Technologies. When I use vesa driver
 
 Do you have [x] CHIPS enabled when you run make config in
 x11-drivers/xorg-drivers? I guess this should install the right driver
 for your Armada.

sure. As I said, chips (and mouse and keyboard) worked fine with 7.3, but not
anymore. I blame hal and dbus.

 
  instead I get to the graphics screen, but still no mouse or keyboard.
 
 Did you follow the hints in /usr/ports/UPDATING?

yes, I did. After that didn't help I deinstalled and reinstalled all X-related
ports - same result.

On 8.0-current i386 I have different problems (black screen, cannot return
to console, have to reboot) but the result is the same - xorg 7.4 isn't
working at all.

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xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier



Okay, I've exhausted every google search I can think of, and not getting 
anywhere, so now to ask ...


Just upgraded my motherboard / CPU (old one fried out) ... picked up an ASUS 
P5Q with a Quad Core Intel CPU ... everything boots / runs fine, until I try 
and start up X ...


If I use the 'nv' driver in my X conig file, and the twm window manager, 
everything starts up fine, I can load Firefox, etc, etc ...


As soon as I switch from nv - nvidia and start, the screen goes blank and the 
machine reboots ...


If I switch from nvidia - nv and use '/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde', the 
screen goes blank, and the machine reboots ...


I just installed icewm, and using that, everything loads up fine too ...

So, I figure there is something that I'm either missing in my install, or that 
I've configured wrong that kde is trying to use, but I'm at a lose as to what 
...


Can anyone help?

Thanks ...




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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:


 Okay, I've exhausted every google search I can think of, and not getting
 anywhere, so now to ask ...

 Just upgraded my motherboard / CPU (old one fried out) ... picked up an ASUS
 P5Q with a Quad Core Intel CPU ... everything boots / runs fine, until I try
 and start up X ...

 If I use the 'nv' driver in my X conig file, and the twm window manager,
 everything starts up fine, I can load Firefox, etc, etc ...

 As soon as I switch from nv - nvidia and start, the screen goes blank and
 the machine reboots ...

 If I switch from nvidia - nv and use '/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde', the
 screen goes blank, and the machine reboots ...

 I just installed icewm, and using that, everything loads up fine too ...

 So, I figure there is something that I'm either missing in my install, or
 that I've configured wrong that kde is trying to use, but I'm at a lose as
 to what ...


Are you starting hald and dbus via rc.conf?

-- 
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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Glen Barber wrote:


On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:



Okay, I've exhausted every google search I can think of, and not getting
anywhere, so now to ask ...

Just upgraded my motherboard / CPU (old one fried out) ... picked up an ASUS
P5Q with a Quad Core Intel CPU ... everything boots / runs fine, until I try
and start up X ...

If I use the 'nv' driver in my X conig file, and the twm window manager,
everything starts up fine, I can load Firefox, etc, etc ...

As soon as I switch from nv - nvidia and start, the screen goes blank and
the machine reboots ...

If I switch from nvidia - nv and use '/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde', the
screen goes blank, and the machine reboots ...

I just installed icewm, and using that, everything loads up fine too ...

So, I figure there is something that I'm either missing in my install, or
that I've configured wrong that kde is trying to use, but I'm at a lose as
to what ...



Are you starting hald and dbus via rc.conf?


Yes ... both mouse and keyboard have been working great ...


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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:
 Are you starting hald and dbus via rc.conf?

 Yes ... both mouse and keyboard have been working great ...


Well, that's good to hear. ;)

Thought I'd as to be safe.

-- 
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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Glen Barber wrote:


On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:

Are you starting hald and dbus via rc.conf?


Yes ... both mouse and keyboard have been working great ...



Well, that's good to hear. ;)

Thought I'd as to be safe.


Ya, that was the easiest problems to search on google and get fixed :)

I'm going to try downgrading to xorg 7.3 ... I'm having headaches with 
fonts (Location bar in firefox3 is unreadable, although all pages are fine 
... mail messagesin mulberry are unreadable, although the message index is 
*just* readable, etc) ... someone mentioned some changes in 7.4 concerning 
fonts, and I figure, my luck, this might be something that is trickling 
into other areas :(





 
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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Adam Vande More

Marc G. Fournier wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Glen Barber wrote:

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org 
wrote:

Are you starting hald and dbus via rc.conf?


Yes ... both mouse and keyboard have been working great ...



Well, that's good to hear. ;)

Thought I'd as to be safe.


Ya, that was the easiest problems to search on google and get fixed :)

I'm going to try downgrading to xorg 7.3 ... I'm having headaches with 
fonts (Location bar in firefox3 is unreadable, although all pages are 
fine ... mail messagesin mulberry are unreadable, although the message 
index is *just* readable, etc) ... someone mentioned some changes in 
7.4 concerning fonts, and I figure, my luck, this might be something 
that is trickling into other areas :(


FWIW, I run both KDE and KDE4 w/ nvidia driver dual head on xorg 7.4.  
Following UPDATING resolved the issues I had going from 7.3  7.4.


midco# uname -a
FreeBSD midco.net 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #5: Tue Jan 13 
13:35:17 CST 2009 a...@midco.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DOMINATOR  i386



midco# pkg_info | grep nvidia
nvidia-driver-177.80 NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware 
OpenGL ren

nvidia-settings-180.17 Display Control Panel for X NVidia driver

xorg-7.4X.Org complete distribution metaport


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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Deb Heller-Evans
I ran into the same kind of issue.  FWIW, I had better luck downloading 
the nVidia drivers from the website which includes modifying the 
kernel.  I can now do all kinds of extra things, like spanning 2 
monitors, etc (on workstations). 


I can dig up my notes if you intend to go this route at some point...

d

Deb Heller-Evans
Energy Science Network
MS-50A-3101
Berkeley, CA 94720

510/495-2243



Marc G. Fournier wrote:



Okay, I've exhausted every google search I can think of, and not 
getting anywhere, so now to ask ...


Just upgraded my motherboard / CPU (old one fried out) ... picked up 
an ASUS P5Q with a Quad Core Intel CPU ... everything boots / runs 
fine, until I try and start up X ...


If I use the 'nv' driver in my X conig file, and the twm window 
manager, everything starts up fine, I can load Firefox, etc, etc ...


As soon as I switch from nv - nvidia and start, the screen goes blank 
and the machine reboots ...


If I switch from nvidia - nv and use '/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde', 
the screen goes blank, and the machine reboots ...


I just installed icewm, and using that, everything loads up fine too ...

So, I figure there is something that I'm either missing in my install, 
or that I've configured wrong that kde is trying to use, but I'm at a 
lose as to what ...


Can anyone help?

Thanks ...




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(http://www.hub.org)
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scra...@hub.org

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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Deb Heller-Evans
Oops.  Brain FART... I'm in a multi-OS environment... My answer was with 
respect to a different OS, but it might be applicable to FreeBSD.  I 
don't have experience with nVidia on FreeBSD.


Deb Heller-Evans
Energy Science Network
MS-50A-3101
Berkeley, CA 94720

510/495-2243



Deb Heller-Evans wrote:
I ran into the same kind of issue.  FWIW, I had better luck 
downloading the nVidia drivers from the website which includes 
modifying the kernel.  I can now do all kinds of extra things, like 
spanning 2 monitors, etc (on workstations).

I can dig up my notes if you intend to go this route at some point...

d

Deb Heller-Evans
Energy Science Network
MS-50A-3101
Berkeley, CA 94720

510/495-2243



Marc G. Fournier wrote:



Okay, I've exhausted every google search I can think of, and not 
getting anywhere, so now to ask ...


Just upgraded my motherboard / CPU (old one fried out) ... picked up 
an ASUS P5Q with a Quad Core Intel CPU ... everything boots / runs 
fine, until I try and start up X ...


If I use the 'nv' driver in my X conig file, and the twm window 
manager, everything starts up fine, I can load Firefox, etc, etc ...


As soon as I switch from nv - nvidia and start, the screen goes 
blank and the machine reboots ...


If I switch from nvidia - nv and use '/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde', 
the screen goes blank, and the machine reboots ...


I just installed icewm, and using that, everything loads up fine too ...

So, I figure there is something that I'm either missing in my 
install, or that I've configured wrong that kde is trying to use, but 
I'm at a lose as to what ...


Can anyone help?

Thanks ...




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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Hi Deb ...

  was this vs compiling from source?

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Deb Heller-Evans wrote:

Oops.  Brain FART... I'm in a multi-OS environment... My answer was with 
respect to a different OS, but it might be applicable to FreeBSD.  I don't 
have experience with nVidia on FreeBSD.


Deb Heller-Evans
Energy Science Network
MS-50A-3101
Berkeley, CA 94720

510/495-2243



Deb Heller-Evans wrote:
I ran into the same kind of issue.  FWIW, I had better luck downloading the 
nVidia drivers from the website which includes modifying the kernel.  I can 
now do all kinds of extra things, like spanning 2 monitors, etc (on 
workstations).

I can dig up my notes if you intend to go this route at some point...

d

Deb Heller-Evans
Energy Science Network
MS-50A-3101
Berkeley, CA 94720

510/495-2243



Marc G. Fournier wrote:



Okay, I've exhausted every google search I can think of, and not getting 
anywhere, so now to ask ...


Just upgraded my motherboard / CPU (old one fried out) ... picked up an 
ASUS P5Q with a Quad Core Intel CPU ... everything boots / runs fine, 
until I try and start up X ...


If I use the 'nv' driver in my X conig file, and the twm window manager, 
everything starts up fine, I can load Firefox, etc, etc ...


As soon as I switch from nv - nvidia and start, the screen goes blank and 
the machine reboots ...


If I switch from nvidia - nv and use '/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde', the 
screen goes blank, and the machine reboots ...


I just installed icewm, and using that, everything loads up fine too ...

So, I figure there is something that I'm either missing in my install, or 
that I've configured wrong that kde is trying to use, but I'm at a lose as 
to what ...


Can anyone help?

Thanks ...




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