Re: A few 5.0-Release questions...
--- Chris Shenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, I had absolutely no trouble booting and > installing 5.0-R on my 600SC, with the DELL-supplied CERC > RAID card (amr device recognized it, but it drives 4x > ATA disks rather than SCSI), and an Intel gigabit > ether card. Got X11 working on it rather easily > too. I don't have any other drives (than the supplied IDE > CD) in the box. The only trouble that I've experienced was with adding a new video card, an ATI All-In-Wonder VE (Radeon 7500, PCI version). When the card is not installed, and I'm using the integrated RageXL video, all works just great. However, once a new PCI video card is installed, I get NMI errors on boot, with a system hang. I've tried a few different things to try and resolve the issue; removing 'options EISA' from the kernel, and removing 'device agp' from the kernel. I've checked the mainboard for jumpers to fully disable the integrated video; there are none. Thus far, the only way I can get FreeBSD-5.0 to boot without incident was to add, 'hw.pci.enable_io_modes=0' to /boot/device.hints. Once I do that, no more NMI errors. I just hope and pray this option remains with FreeBSD for a long time to come so I can continue to use this ATI AIW card. X with the integrated RageXL sucks. :p - John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: A few 5.0-Release questions...
John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --- Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Dell PowerEdge] > > What model? There are quite a few PowerEdges out > > It's a 600SC - P4 1.8 - Perc3/SC FWIW, I had absolutely no trouble booting and installing 5.0-R on my 600SC, with the DELL-supplied CERC RAID card (amr device recognized it, but it drives 4x ATA disks rather than SCSI), and an Intel gigabit ether card. Got X11 working on it rather easily too. I don't have any other drives (than the supplied IDE CD) in the box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: A few 5.0-Release questions...
--- Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Dell PowerEdge] > What model? There are quite a few PowerEdges out It's a 600SC - P4 1.8 - Perc3/SC Since new, I've added a Plextor CD-RW (IDE), Lite-On DVD-ROM (IDE), and an ATI All-In-Wonder VE (7500, PCI). > > These machines come with integrated video, an ATI [Complications with integrated RageXL and PCI version of the ATI AIW VE... NMI halts] > As a wild guess, what happens when you remove the > EISA device from the kernel? I tried this as well. Unfortunately, removing the EISA device did nothing to relieve the problem with the NMI. The only thing that cleared it up was adding 'hw.pci.enable_io_modes=0' in /boot/device.hints. This was the case, at least, with 5.0-RELEASE. I've yet to see what happens with -CURRENT. Perhaps I'll try and cvsup -CURRENT, remove 'hw.pci.enable_io_modes=0', and see what happens. > There have been problems in the past with ATAPI/IDE > drives that claim DMA capabilities but instead corrupt data > and/or cause panics. Forcing everything to PIO is the > easiest way to achieve maximum compatibility. The ata manual > page describes what to put into /boot/loader.conf to > force them back using DMA. I pulled these two drives from a WinXP machine, and based on the transfer method reported in XP, it was using DMA. No stability issues were noted, at least in regard to XP. I've been running them under 5.0 now for a few days, burned a few CD's and played a few DVD's without stability issues either -- thankfully. I'll check out the above referenced manual page and make the suggested changes. Thank you for the tip. [About permanently disabling the integrated video] > Does the motherboard have a jumper that will disable > it? Unfortunately, no. I've even contacted Dell regarding this as I could find no information in the documentation provided with the system. They simply stated that when another video card is installed, the integrated video is disabled. They also mentioned that this type of configuration "is not supported." I've looked for jumpers on the motherboard itself and only found jumpers for clearing the BIOS password... nothing else. Thank you once again, Scott, for your help. It was very much appreciated. - John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: A few 5.0-Release questions...
John Wilson wrote: Good day, After spending quite some time trying to get 5.0-RELEASE installed on a Dell PowerEdge machine, it seems that all is now working quite well. Being that these machines are somewhat common, I'll share what was halting my installation. What model? There are quite a few PowerEdges out there. I installed 5.0 (actually, I built the official 5.0 release) on a PowerEdge. These machines come with integrated video, an ATI RageXL, which is rather useless for anything other than console mode. I installed an ATI All- In-Wonder VE so that I could get somewhat decent performance out of X. The problem manifested when the kernel probed the machines hardware, causing an "NMI ISA 30, EISA ff", and locking up the machine solid. After I began pulling memory and expansion cards from the system, the error went away when I removed the ATI AIW card. I reinstalled the card and attempted to find how to correct this. My only solution to this issue was to interrupt the boot process and use the following command: set hw.pci.enable_io_modes = 0 This prevented any further halts. As a wild guess, what happenes when you remove the EISA device from the kernel? My first question is as follows: is /boot/device.hints the most proper place to stick this? Also, are there any other possible solutions to this issue? /boot/loader.conf is the best place for this. My main drives are SCSI, and I have one CD-RW and one DVD-R on the secondary IDE controller. The kernel detects the drives just fine, but defaults them both down to PIO4. The drives are fully UDMA2 capable. I am able to set the drives to use UDMA2 via atacontrol without issue. However, how would one make this more permanent, such that I wouldn't have to use atacontrol everytime I boot the machine? There have been problems in the past with ATAPI/IDE drives that claim DMA capabilities but instead corrupt data and/or cause panics. Forcing everything to PIO is the easiest way to achieve maximum compatibility. The ata manual page describes what to put into /boot/loader.conf to force them back using DMA. Back to the topic of video; is there _any_ way to permanently disable, or at least prevent FreeBSD from detecting the integrated video on the motherboard? There is nothing in the machines BIOS that would allow this. This would just be "nice" to do, as X works just fine, but it still sticks an entry into the XFree86Config file for the integrated chip. Does the motherboard have a jumper that will disable it? And finally... Where can one obtain a complete list of allowed hints for use in /boot/device.hints? I tried searching around the FBSD site as well as the handbook and found no listing, other than a line here and a line there. This has been desired for a long time, yes. There have been periodic pushes to do this, but they quickly loose steam or become outdated. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
A few 5.0-Release questions...
Good day, After spending quite some time trying to get 5.0-RELEASE installed on a Dell PowerEdge machine, it seems that all is now working quite well. Being that these machines are somewhat common, I'll share what was halting my installation. These machines come with integrated video, an ATI RageXL, which is rather useless for anything other than console mode. I installed an ATI All- In-Wonder VE so that I could get somewhat decent performance out of X. The problem manifested when the kernel probed the machines hardware, causing an "NMI ISA 30, EISA ff", and locking up the machine solid. After I began pulling memory and expansion cards from the system, the error went away when I removed the ATI AIW card. I reinstalled the card and attempted to find how to correct this. My only solution to this issue was to interrupt the boot process and use the following command: set hw.pci.enable_io_modes = 0 This prevented any further halts. My first question is as follows: is /boot/device.hints the most proper place to stick this? Also, are there any other possible solutions to this issue? My main drives are SCSI, and I have one CD-RW and one DVD-R on the secondary IDE controller. The kernel detects the drives just fine, but defaults them both down to PIO4. The drives are fully UDMA2 capable. I am able to set the drives to use UDMA2 via atacontrol without issue. However, how would one make this more permanent, such that I wouldn't have to use atacontrol everytime I boot the machine? Back to the topic of video; is there _any_ way to permanently disable, or at least prevent FreeBSD from detecting the integrated video on the motherboard? There is nothing in the machines BIOS that would allow this. This would just be "nice" to do, as X works just fine, but it still sticks an entry into the XFree86Config file for the integrated chip. And finally... Where can one obtain a complete list of allowed hints for use in /boot/device.hints? I tried searching around the FBSD site as well as the handbook and found no listing, other than a line here and a line there. Thank you all very much for your help, and have a wonderful day. - John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
