Re: Are Autoconf253 and Automake15 Deprecated?

2004-09-02 Thread Bob Perry
Ben Paley wrote:
On Sunday 08 August 2004 13:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hi,
I CVSup's my system (FreeBSD 4.9-p2 #0) early this morning and found
the following in /usr/ports/CHANGES:
20040803:
AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 As part of the ongoing autotools cleanup, devel/autoconf has been
 replaced with devel/autoconf253, and devel/automake with
devel/automake15. Consumers of the various autotools knobs from
bsd.autotools.mk should not notice any differences.  This update completes
the transition of autotools to true versioned packages (cf: tcl/tk)
I just updated my watchlist in FreshPorts and it indicates that
autoconf253 is
deprecated and should be replaced with /devel/autoconf259.  Similarly,
automake15 should be replaced with devel/automake18.  Is FreshPorts more
current?  If so, will the following correctly upgrade my system:
portupgrade -rfo /devel/automake automake
portupgrade -rfo /devel/autoconf autoconf
Thanks for your assistance.
   

I've been getting all this, and the various strategies I've tried haven't 
worked. On the other hand nothing bad seems to have happened as a result, so 
I still feel I'm on the lucky side...

Did you ever work out how to sort this? I'd really appreciate your advice If 
you've got anywhere.

Cheers,
Ben
 

Hi Ben,
I did receive a response from the author, [EMAIL PROTECTED], which follows:
Deprecated in this sense means that porters in general should be moving 
away from the older versions of automake/autoconf, to the newer ones, 
which will eventually get removed.

Since I don't use portupgrade myself, I have no idea whether the above 
will work, but with all the entries added to /usr/ports/MOVED, a simple 
upgrade (which is essentially a no-op in terms of the version here), 
will migrate your system away from devel/autoconf -> devel/autoconf253 
and devel/automake -> devel/automake15.

As regards the freebsd-questions list, I really have no idea, since I 
don't subscribe to it due to the sheer volume of traffic it receives.  
Generally speaking, if you have a problem with a port, look at the 
MAINTAINER field, and send email to that individual and possibly also 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], where people, such as myself, who are involved with 
day-to-day management of the ports/ tree tend to hang out.


Regards,
   -aDe
Based upon this response, the change in question seems to be more of a  
concern for porters and that an upgrade would make it a non-issue.  I 
really don't have any additional advice to pass along at this time, but 
I'll will post this to the mailing list again and someone with a little 
more expertise may have the time to respond.

I'm still not very comfortable playing the role of systems administrator 
and I am equally uncomfortable with FreeBSD.  I lack too many of the basic 
skills at this point and issues like this just muddy the waters even more.

I'm building a new pc (combo Suse/Windows) for my work and personal files 
and intend to keep my current FreeBSD box for future training/testing when 
time permits.  Looking forward to the day I can use the phrase "simple 
upgrade."

Regards,
Bob 






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Are Autoconf253 and Automake15 Deprecated?

2004-08-07 Thread Bob Perry
Hi,
I CVSup's my system (FreeBSD 4.9-p2 #0) early this morning and found
the following in /usr/ports/CHANGES:
20040803:
AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 As part of the ongoing autotools cleanup, devel/autoconf has been
 replaced with devel/autoconf253, and devel/automake with devel/automake15.
 Consumers of the various autotools knobs from bsd.autotools.mk should not
 notice any differences.  This update completes the transition of autotools
 to true versioned packages (cf: tcl/tk)
I just updated my watchlist in FreshPorts and it indicates that 
autoconf253 is
deprecated and should be replaced with /devel/autoconf259.  Similarly,
automake15 should be replaced with devel/automake18.  Is FreshPorts more
current?  If so, will the following correctly upgrade my system:

portupgrade -rfo /devel/automake automake
portupgrade -rfo /devel/autoconf autoconf
Thanks for your assistance.
Bob Perry
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I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly
distributed.
FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0
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