Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > So I feel a need to start backing up my servers. To that end, I've decided > that it's easier for me to grab an external USB drive instead of a tape. It Buy at least two, and keep one off-site. > would seem dump/restore are t

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:20:28AM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > On 24-May-07, at 3:16 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > >>2 x system space would be enough for a full dump plus plenty of > >>increments, I'd say. No? Is there a rule of thumb? 3x? 4x? > > > >That depends how much your file syste

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:10:43AM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > On 24-May-07, at 12:33 AM, Doug Hardie wrote: > > > > >On May 23, 2007, at 19:03, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > > >> > >>On 23-May-07, at 9:23 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: > >> > >>>The criteria for selecting a backup approach is not the ba

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:03:40PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > > On 23-May-07, at 9:23 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: > > >The criteria for selecting a backup approach is not the backup > >methodology but the restore methodology. > > Excellent point. > > Perhaps I'm asking the wrong question, so l

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:27:05PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > So I feel a need to start backing up my servers. To that end, I've > decided that it's easier for me to grab an external USB drive instead > of a tape. It would seem dump/restore are the tools of choice. My > backup strategy

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 24-May-07, at 3:43 AM, Doug Hardie wrote: Rsync will leave you with a duplicate of the drive. You could pretty much boot off it and run. You would need to configure the drive and install a boot loader though. The boot off and run is more in-line with what I want to do, so I will go

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 24-May-07, at 3:16 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: 2 x system space would be enough for a full dump plus plenty of increments, I'd say. No? Is there a rule of thumb? 3x? 4x? That depends how much your file system change. If every ficle change befor the incremental run, dump 1 will be equal t

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Olivier Nicole
> 2 x system space would be enough for a full dump plus plenty of > increments, I'd say. No? Is there a rule of thumb? 3x? 4x? That depends how much your file system change. If every ficle change befor the incremental run, dump 1 will be equal to dump 2, and 2x will be enough for just dump0

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-24 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 24-May-07, at 12:33 AM, Doug Hardie wrote: On May 23, 2007, at 19:03, Jason Lixfeld wrote: On 23-May-07, at 9:23 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: The criteria for selecting a backup approach is not the backup methodology but the restore methodology. Excellent point. Perhaps I'm asking the wr

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread Doug Hardie
On May 23, 2007, at 19:03, Jason Lixfeld wrote: On 23-May-07, at 9:23 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: The criteria for selecting a backup approach is not the backup methodology but the restore methodology. Excellent point. Perhaps I'm asking the wrong question, so let me try it this way instead

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, > So I feel a need to start backing up my servers. To that end, I've > decided that it's easier for me to grab an external USB drive instead > of a tape. It's certainly faster, easier and cheaper now days. > It would seem dump/restore are the tools of choice. This really repends of w

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 21:03:40 Jason Lixfeld wrote: > On 23-May-07, at 9:23 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: > > The criteria for selecting a backup approach is not the backup > > methodology but the restore methodology. > > Excellent point. > > Perhaps I'm asking the wrong question, so let me try it this

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 23-May-07, at 9:23 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: The criteria for selecting a backup approach is not the backup methodology but the restore methodology. Excellent point. Perhaps I'm asking the wrong question, so let me try it this way instead: I'm looking for a backup solution that I can re

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread Doug Hardie
On May 23, 2007, at 16:27, Jason Lixfeld wrote: So I feel a need to start backing up my servers. To that end, I've decided that it's easier for me to grab an external USB drive instead of a tape. It would seem dump/restore are the tools of choice. My backup strategy is pretty much "I do

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread David N
On 24/05/07, Howard Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jason Lixfeld wrote: > - Other folks dumping to a hard drive at night? Care to share any of > your experiences/rationale? Not with dump/restore. After using amanda and a tape drive for eons I'm now happy with a bacula solution to backup

Re: Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread Howard Goldstein
Jason Lixfeld wrote: - Other folks dumping to a hard drive at night? Care to share any of your experiences/rationale? Not with dump/restore. After using amanda and a tape drive for eons I'm now happy with a bacula solution to backup 2 freebsds and a windows machine. It does incrementals ex

Backup advice

2007-05-23 Thread Jason Lixfeld
So I feel a need to start backing up my servers. To that end, I've decided that it's easier for me to grab an external USB drive instead of a tape. It would seem dump/restore are the tools of choice. My backup strategy is pretty much "I don't want to be screwed if my RAID goes away". Th

Re: newbie: weekly tape backup advice

2003-06-26 Thread admin
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:36:01 -0700, Ryan Merrick wrote > admin wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I need some help setting up a tape backup system. I have two FreeBSD machines > > and on external SCSI Onstream ADR50. Got any clues how I can start a weekly > > back up plan here? > > > > Thanks in adva

Re: newbie: weekly tape backup advice

2003-06-26 Thread Ryan Merrick
admin wrote: Hi, I need some help setting up a tape backup system. I have two FreeBSD machines and on external SCSI Onstream ADR50. Got any clues how I can start a weekly back up plan here? Thanks in advance, Noah ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: newbie: weekly tape backup advice

2003-06-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > Hi, > > I need some help setting up a tape backup system. I have two FreeBSD machines > and on external SCSI Onstream ADR50. Got any clues how I can start a weekly > back up plan here? It depends a little on the size of your disk compared to your tape capacity. It also depends on how mu

Re: newbie: weekly tape backup advice

2003-06-23 Thread Chris
admin wrote: Hi, I need some help setting up a tape backup system. I have two FreeBSD machines and on external SCSI Onstream ADR50. Got any clues how I can start a weekly back up plan here? Thanks in advance, Noah ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lis

newbie: weekly tape backup advice

2003-06-23 Thread admin
Hi, I need some help setting up a tape backup system. I have two FreeBSD machines and on external SCSI Onstream ADR50. Got any clues how I can start a weekly back up plan here? Thanks in advance, Noah ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lis