Re: Downgrading from current

2007-07-30 Thread Bill Vermillion
At Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 19:42 , our malformed and occasionally 
flatulent friend Ross Penner spewed forth this fount of brain juice:

> I recently upgraded my system from stable to current to try and take
> advantage of some of wireless features offered. Unfortunetly, things
> didn't work out as well as I'd like to and I want to downgrade.

> Reading online, it seems that downgrading isn't supported and it's
> probably best to just reinstall the system. This seems reasonable enough
> to me but I have a couple problems I need to address first.

> I have a lot of data on my /usr partition that I would rather not have to
> backup and then readd to the system. is there a way I can reinstall and
> leave parts of the file system intact? I assume that I can use the same
> partitions but I'm worried that reinstalling will clean the partitions.


One of the good things about the design of FreeBSD >>IF<< you
install with separate file-systems, is that the OS fully resides
in /, and /usr is for all non-OS default programs.

You should be able to change the OS by only installing the / 
system, and do NOT make a new filesystem on /usr

Too many seem to advocate the idea of using the whole disk
and not using separate filesystems, and if that is what you have
done you have to backup all your /usr and then redo the install.

So many who advocate only one filesystem seem to come
from the Linux and/or MS world.

Bill
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Re: Downgrading from current

2007-07-30 Thread John Nielsen
On Sunday 29 July 2007 09:42:01 pm Ross Penner wrote:
> I recently upgraded my system from stable to current to try and take
> advantage of some of wireless features offered. Unfortunetly, things
> didn't work out as well as I'd like to and I want to downgrade.
>
> Reading online, it seems that downgrading isn't supported and it's
> probably best to just reinstall the system. This seems reasonable enough
> to me but I have a couple problems I need to address first.
>
> I have a lot of data on my /usr partition that I would rather not have to
> backup and then readd to the system. is there a way I can reinstall and
> leave parts of the file system intact? I assume that I can use the same
> partitions but I'm worried that reinstalling will clean the partitions.

Obviously take good backups before you try anything.

I recently downgraded one of my machines using sysinstall's binary "upgrade" 
feature. Goes something like this:

Download the .iso image for the relase or snapshot you'd like to downgrade to. 
(Skip if you already have a CD.)

Use mdconfig to create a device entry for your .iso image. (Skip if you 
already have a CD.)

Mount the cd image to /cdrom or /mnt. (Skip if you already have a CD.)

Run /usr/sbin/sysinstall (from your running system, don't boot from a CD).

Go to the options screen and set the Release name to match the .iso image or 
CD you're using. e.g. 6.2-RELEASE or 6.2-STABLE-200706.

Go back to the main menu and choose the "Upgrade" option.

Follow the prompts. If you're using a CD then use the CD media option. If 
you're using a .iso image use the local directory option and give it the 
directory where you mounted the image. Be sure to install the src 
distribution.

Check that the sources in /usr/src match what just got installed and then run 
mergemaster to fix up /etc.

Reboot.

These instructions come with no warranty, your mileage may vary, not 
responsible for items left in vehicle or data loss, etc etc. Good luck 
though. :)

JN
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Re: Downgrading from current

2007-07-29 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan


On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Ross Penner wrote:

I have a lot of data on my /usr partition that I would rather not have to
backup and then readd to the system. is there a way I can reinstall and
leave parts of the file system intact? I assume that I can use the same
partitions but I'm worried that reinstalling will clean the partitions.


As long as your /usr is on a separate partition, you can choose to mount 
it at some other point and not format while re-installing FreeBSD. I don't 
recollect the exact steps off-hand, but I remember there being a "Toggle 
NewFS" or something like that option on the screen where you make 
partitions. Just toggle it off and the partition won't get formatted.


Hope that helps.

Regards,
Rakhesh
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Re: Downgrading from current

2007-07-29 Thread Hakan K
How about creating a new partition and using new partition for
installation.?
I do not think you will be able to keep the files, if u install on same
partition...




Thanks
Troy
http://dominor.net

On 7/29/07, Ross Penner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I recently upgraded my system from stable to current to try and take
> advantage of some of wireless features offered. Unfortunetly, things
> didn't work out as well as I'd like to and I want to downgrade.
>
> Reading online, it seems that downgrading isn't supported and it's
> probably best to just reinstall the system. This seems reasonable enough
> to me but I have a couple problems I need to address first.
>
> I have a lot of data on my /usr partition that I would rather not have to
> backup and then readd to the system. is there a way I can reinstall and
> leave parts of the file system intact? I assume that I can use the same
> partitions but I'm worried that reinstalling will clean the partitions.
>
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Downgrading from current

2007-07-29 Thread Robert Huff
Ross Penner writes:

>  Reading online, it seems that downgrading isn't supported and
>  it's probably best to just reinstall the system. This seems
>  reasonable enough to me but I have a couple problems I need to
>  address first.
>  
>  I have a lot of data on my /usr partition that I would rather not
>  have to backup and then readd to the system. is there a way I can
>  reinstall and leave parts of the file system intact?

I'm tempted to say "If you have to ask this question, the
answer is "No."."
:-)


Robert Huff
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Downgrading from current

2007-07-29 Thread Ross Penner

I recently upgraded my system from stable to current to try and take
advantage of some of wireless features offered. Unfortunetly, things
didn't work out as well as I'd like to and I want to downgrade.

Reading online, it seems that downgrading isn't supported and it's
probably best to just reinstall the system. This seems reasonable enough
to me but I have a couple problems I need to address first.

I have a lot of data on my /usr partition that I would rather not have to
backup and then readd to the system. is there a way I can reinstall and
leave parts of the file system intact? I assume that I can use the same
partitions but I'm worried that reinstalling will clean the partitions.

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Re: Re: Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:06:54PM -0500, C. Ulrich wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 07:14, Peter Risdon wrote:
> > I just moved from 5.1-current to 5.1 release, and fixed a lot of 
> > problems on a horribly unstable box by doing so. I believe downgrading 
> > to stable is very awkward, but others will be better qualified to 
> > discuss that than I am.
> 
> On a related note, I know that following CURRENT is a game of risk, but
> are current branch releases (such as 5.1-RELEASE) intended to be a bit
> more stable and usable than staying constantly up to date with CURRENT?

Yes, that is the intention.

> 
> In other words, is there a pretty good chance that 5.2-RELEASE won't
> break my (non-production) workstation too horribly when it comes out? Or
> does it carry the same exact risks as following CURRENT?

Before a -RELEASE goes out there will have been a period of code freeze
during which no big, potentially disruptive, changes are allowed.
This means that the code that is in a release will have had at least some
time to stabilize, and has been tested by more people than just the person
who wrote the code.

I would say that there is a fairly good chanse 5.2-RELEASE will be fairly
solid when it comes out.  Maybe not quite as stable as 4.9-RELEASE, but a
good deal safer than the latest code from -CURRENT.


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Re: Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread C. Ulrich
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 07:14, Peter Risdon wrote:
> I just moved from 5.1-current to 5.1 release, and fixed a lot of 
> problems on a horribly unstable box by doing so. I believe downgrading 
> to stable is very awkward, but others will be better qualified to 
> discuss that than I am.

On a related note, I know that following CURRENT is a game of risk, but
are current branch releases (such as 5.1-RELEASE) intended to be a bit
more stable and usable than staying constantly up to date with CURRENT?

In other words, is there a pretty good chance that 5.2-RELEASE won't
break my (non-production) workstation too horribly when it comes out? Or
does it carry the same exact risks as following CURRENT?

Thanks,

Charles Ulrich
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Re: Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 04:50:09AM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote:

> Is it possible or advisable to downgrade to stable or release from
> current?  I'm running 5.1-current now, but I'm think I should
> probably switch to stable if possible.

Down... -- er -- regrading to STABLE is certainly possible, but not
what most people would think of as easy.  One major stumpling block is
that UFS2 in 5-CURRENT isn't supported in 4-STABLE, so unless you
happened to specifically create all of your 5.x filesystems using the
old UFS, you're going to have to wipe and re-install loads of stuff.

If you do decide to jump to 4.9-STABLE then probably the simplest way
to do things is to backup any data you need to save, make notes about
exactly how you've configured your system, what ports you have
installed and all the other customizations you've done, and then just
re-install 4.9-STABLE from scratch.

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Re: Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread Peter Risdon
Mike Loiterman wrote:

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Is it possible or advisable to downgrade to stable or release from
current?  I'm running 5.1-current now, but I'm think I should
probably switch to stable if possible.
 

I just moved from 5.1-current to 5.1 release, and fixed a lot of 
problems on a horribly unstable box by doing so. I believe downgrading 
to stable is very awkward, but others will be better qualified to 
discuss that than I am.

I used *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_1 in my cvsup file, cvsupped, 
made world, made kernel, installed kernel, rebooted, installed world, 
rebooted. No problems at all.

PWR.



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Downgrading from current to release or stable?

2003-11-21 Thread Mike Loiterman
 
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Is it possible or advisable to downgrade to stable or release from
current?  I'm running 5.1-current now, but I'm think I should
probably switch to stable if possible.

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