Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Olivier Certner
Hi,

On modern laptops, the BIOS allows you to boot from an USB key. So, you 
could 
prepare a key on another machine to bootstrap FreeBSD, by putting a proper 
MBR, partition table and partition ("slice" in FreeBSD vocabulary). The BIOS 
makes real-mode programs that use it believe the key is a regular floppy 
disk.

Unless the FreeBSD's boot loader has problem or your BIOS does weird 
things, 
this should work. Please note that I've not tested this procedure myself, so 
I'm not 100% sure it will work.

Olivier
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Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread DAve

Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

no, i dont have floppy...


Search for FreeBSD diskless booting, the manual has info, there some how 
to sites as well. I've installed in Dell DataVaults this way. Works fine 
if your NIC card supports PXEBoot.


DAve



TFC

On 6/20/07, Eduardo Viruena Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

> hi folks,
>  I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem is,
> some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
> installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My experience is
about
> installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!
>

You can boot from floppies, configure your network card and install the
system using FTP.

I had used a diskless system to install FreeBSD in computers that
do not even have floppies!

There is a lot of possibilities.

Eduardo.



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Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:35:16AM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

> hi folks,
>   I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem is,
> some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
> installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My experience is about
> installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!

If you buy a new enough one, it should have a USB port and most likely
be able to boot from that USB port.   So, buy a USB CDrom drive and
boot the install CD from that and then do the rest of the install
over the net - from a FreeBSD FTP mirror.

jerry
> 
> TFC
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Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-06-20 10:35, Tsu-Fan Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi folks,
>   I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem is,
> some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
> installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My experience is about
> installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!

net-booting, is an option :-)

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Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Eric Crist

On Jun 20, 2007, at 9:39 AMJun 20, 2007, Eduardo Viruena Silva wrote:


On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:


hi folks,
 I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem  
is,

some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My  
experience is about

installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!



You can boot from floppies, configure your network card and install  
the system using FTP.


I had used a diskless system to install FreeBSD in computers that
do not even have floppies!

There is a lot of possibilities.



Buy a laptop that has at least a CD ROM or a Floppy drive...
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Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Joe Holden
Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
> no, i dont have floppy...
> 
> TFC
> 
> On 6/20/07, Eduardo Viruena Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
>>
>> > hi folks,
>> >  I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem is,
>> > some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
>> > installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My experience is
>> about
>> > installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!
>> >
>>
>> You can boot from floppies, configure your network card and install the
>> system using FTP.
>>
>> I had used a diskless system to install FreeBSD in computers that
>> do not even have floppies!
>>
>> There is a lot of possibilities.
>>
>> Eduardo.
>>
>>
If its fairly recently, it will probably support PXE, you could
boot+install via that?

Thanks,
Joe
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Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

no, i dont have floppy...

TFC

On 6/20/07, Eduardo Viruena Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

> hi folks,
>  I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem is,
> some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
> installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My experience is
about
> installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!
>

You can boot from floppies, configure your network card and install the
system using FTP.

I had used a diskless system to install FreeBSD in computers that
do not even have floppies!

There is a lot of possibilities.

Eduardo.



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Re: freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Eduardo Viruena Silva

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:


hi folks,
 I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem is,
some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My experience is about
installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!



You can boot from floppies, configure your network card and install the 
system using FTP.


I had used a diskless system to install FreeBSD in computers that
do not even have floppies!

There is a lot of possibilities.

   Eduardo.

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freebsd on laptop

2007-06-20 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

hi folks,
  I want to buy a laptop and install linux and freebsd, the problem is,
some 14' laptop doesnt come with cdrom and floppy, but has win2000
installed. How can I install linux and freebsd on it? My experience is about
installing on a desktop by booting from floppies. THank you!!

TFC
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freebsd on laptop (len problem)

2007-02-04 Thread S. M. Ibrahim \(Lavlu\)
i installed freebsd 6 on a old laptop, it's p3 600 mhz.
everthing goes fine, but after installation, my len is not working. It's IBM 
10/10 EtherJet CardBus Adapter and connected in pcmci . it's not detected. Any 
idea ?
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Re: FreeBSD on Laptop

2004-02-10 Thread rfa
hi kris,

i was in the process of upgrading my kernel from 5.0 Release to 5.2 (on my
laptop) and it won't boot. my boss gave me these instructions:

#cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui && make all install clean
#cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile /etc/stable-supfile
change default host -> cvsup10 or cvsup13
#rm -rf /usr/src
#cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/stable-supfile
#cd /usr/src && make world
#make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
#make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
#reboot

when it boots up, wait for it to pause and press ESC "boot -s"
>>this is where it stops<<-

#cd /usr
#fsck -p
#mount -u /
#mount -a
#cd /usr/src
#adjkerntz -i
#mergemaster -p
#make installworld
#mergemaster
press "yes" and press "i" whenever it prompted you
repeat ur steps
#mergemaster -p
try to press "no" if there is a yes/no something
just press the letter "i"
delete what is left of /var/tmp/temproot
#reboot

when it stops up, the messages from the boot script end like this:

mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
pccard: card inserted, slot 1
pccard: card removed, slot 1
pccard: card inserted, slot 1


i traced the problem to the pcic device(pc card duh!) and i want to
disable it. How can i do this?

i tried unset but cant get it to work.
tried
   unset pcic0
   unset hints.pcic
   unset pcic1 (although it was disabled na)
also i tried
unload
boot kernel.old
that didnt work.

i got to this point after TONS of reboots and searching thru man pages on
the devices show() says.

hope you can help! =)

rommel


>
> 5.0 is by now very old; you should try a modern release.  5.2.1 is due
> out soon, so you might like to wait for that.
>
> Kris


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Re: FreeBSD on Laptop

2004-02-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 01:53:50PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Im just starting out and have installed FBSD on my laptop[DEll inspiron
> 600m], its a dual boot with WinXp and FBSD RELEASE 5.0.
> 
> I think that that FreeBSD successfully probed the power management
> features(ACPI) because if I close the lid the thing suspends(my theory)
> and when i open it, it's hanged, nothing responds. Can't open new
> terminals, can type anything, nothing. its dead.
> 
> Does anyone know if I can turn this off? ANd is my theory correct in the
> first place(that the machine has been suspended).
> 
> I would appreciate any help you guys could give.
> 
> I really wish i could understand the power-saving devices on this box.

5.0 is by now very old; you should try a modern release.  5.2.1 is due
out soon, so you might like to wait for that.

Kris


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FreeBSD on Laptop

2004-02-09 Thread rfa
Im just starting out and have installed FBSD on my laptop[DEll inspiron
600m], its a dual boot with WinXp and FBSD RELEASE 5.0.

I think that that FreeBSD successfully probed the power management
features(ACPI) because if I close the lid the thing suspends(my theory)
and when i open it, it's hanged, nothing responds. Can't open new
terminals, can type anything, nothing. its dead.

Does anyone know if I can turn this off? ANd is my theory correct in the
first place(that the machine has been suspended).

I would appreciate any help you guys could give.

I really wish i could understand the power-saving devices on this box.

Yours,

Rommel


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Re: Installing FreeBSD on Laptop

2003-06-03 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Gunther, Dean (Dean)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a Midwest Micro Elite Soundbook laptop that I would like to install FreeBSD 
> on. 
> The box is a Pentium 75, with 40MB of RAM and a 2GB hard drive so it should be 
> doable.
> I started out to try an load from an ftp site using the 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA card but 
> was
> unable to figure out how to get FreeBSD to recognize the card.  I have a BackPack 
> CD-ROM
> drive (parallel port connection) that I use with the laptop, but I was unable to 
> find any information
> on whether or not I could get it to work to install FreeBSD.

Are you installing FreeBSD 4.8?
[If not, try it; that's the latest release, and the hardware notes say
that it supports that card.]
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Re: Installing FreeBSD on Laptop

2003-06-03 Thread doug
I assume you tried to configure the kernel before running the install
program.

Assuming the handbook:

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

or the hardware notes:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html

Do not cover your hardware, I would ask the hardware question to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] There may be a
driver that will recognize your CDROM.


On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Gunther, Dean (Dean) wrote:

> I have a Midwest Micro Elite Soundbook laptop that I would like to
> install FreeBSD on. The box is a Pentium 75, with 40MB of RAM and a 2GB
> hard drive so it should be doable.  I started out to try an load from an
> ftp site using the 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA card but was unable to figure out
> how to get FreeBSD to recognize the card.  I have a BackPack CD-ROM
> drive (parallel port connection) that I use with the laptop, but I was
> unable to find any information on whether or not I could get it to work
> to install FreeBSD. 
> 
> I created the boot floppies and was able to get the install shell going
> but without any access to the install files I was at a loss how to
> proceed.  I guess if I really wanted to I could try a floppy install,
> but I was hoping for something a little quicker.  At home I have a cable
> modem and a linksys NAT box providing internet access so ftp does not
> sound like a bad way to go, but I wasn't able to figure out how to get
> the system to recognize the PCMCIA card.  If there is a way to use the
> BP CD-ROM that would be even better, but again I couldn't find any
> reference to backpack's or even parallel drives so that has not been a
> fruitful avenue to look down. 
> 
> I am still kind of new to FreeBSD and UNIX, but I am trying to learn.  I
> thought that installing FreeBSD on my old laptop would be a way to keep
> it somewhat useful if only for web-surfing and/ or playing around with
> some scripting work I would like to try to do. 
> 
> Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Dean M. Gunther
> Q-Agent
> Lucent LWS
> 
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Installing FreeBSD on Laptop

2003-06-03 Thread Gunther, Dean (Dean)
I have a Midwest Micro Elite Soundbook laptop that I would like to install FreeBSD on. 
The box is a Pentium 75, with 40MB of RAM and a 2GB hard drive so it should be doable.
I started out to try an load from an ftp site using the 3COM 3C589D PCMCIA card but was
unable to figure out how to get FreeBSD to recognize the card.  I have a BackPack 
CD-ROM
drive (parallel port connection) that I use with the laptop, but I was unable to find 
any information
on whether or not I could get it to work to install FreeBSD.

I created the boot floppies and was able to get the install shell going but without 
any access to
the install files I was at a loss how to proceed.  I guess if I really wanted to I 
could try a floppy install,
but I was hoping for something a little quicker.  At home I have a cable modem and a 
linksys NAT
box providing internet access so ftp does not sound like a bad way to go, but I wasn't 
able to figure 
out how to get the system to recognize the PCMCIA card.  If there is a way to use the 
BP CD-ROM 
that would be even better, but again I couldn't find any reference to backpack's or 
even parallel 
drives so that has not been a fruitful avenue to look down.

I am still kind of new to FreeBSD and UNIX, but I am trying to learn.  I thought that 
installing 
FreeBSD on my old laptop would be a way to keep it somewhat useful if only for 
web-surfing and/
or playing around with some scripting work I would like to try to do.

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

Dean M. Gunther
Q-Agent
Lucent LWS

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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