Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
Hello all, including the guys who responded. Thanks for the comments and tips/ links. I'd see what I can do to move fwd on the issue. Appreciate your feedback! On 3/10/2011 11:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this email! Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/11/2011 01:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a >> regular basis? >> Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) >> on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. >> unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. > I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new > perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a > linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. > Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI > tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice. > This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what > you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any > administrator. :-) I definitely agree here. >> Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering >> your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer >> almost every aspect of your servers with it. > That's true, but it brings new security risks to the system. > Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your > accessibility to what the browser can do (and the Webmin > can support), e. g. you may be faster using a shell with > patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting > things from a list. > Agree here too. Webmin can be secured and audited very well, but still the more services that are available, the greater the security risks will be. Only from the commandline you have all options for configuration of different services available and it's the fastest way to do things. For graphical oriented users I think that Webmin is a real good solution and gives a way to get into the use of the commandline and configuration files. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
Well. I don't really know what I'm doing but you offer some great advice, thanks. For an old man I learn fast, I don't mind doing research and of course RTFM :-) On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:10 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a > > regular basis? > > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) > > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. > > unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. > > I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new > perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a > linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. > Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI > tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice. > This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what > you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any > administrator. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a > regular basis? > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. > unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice. This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any administrator. :-) > Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering > your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer > almost every aspect of your servers with it. That's true, but it brings new security risks to the system. Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your accessibility to what the browser can do (and the Webmin can support), e. g. you may be faster using a shell with patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting things from a list. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
Thank you, being a Windows guy, I didn't know about webmin, tried it and was impressed. New Server coming up no GUI... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of > > research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God > > Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes > > it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ > > > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to > >> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any > >> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile > >> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu > >> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really > >> wanted the GUI). > Hi > Why would you want a window manager on your servers? > Do you all work directly on the consoles? > Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and > access your servers remotely? > It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and > services from the commandline with ssh. > Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. > This is what I tend to roll-out for other > (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured > this works great for them. > > > DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, > disclosure, copying, > distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you > have received it > by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/10/2011 01:46 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote: >> A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before >> Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have >> a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes >> harder (memory loss)... On the other hand, you might want to try PC-BSD. I think it is very well supported and up to date and comes with GUI parts and the option to install as FreeBSD > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a > regular basis? > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. > unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. > Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering > your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer > almost every aspect of your servers with it. > Also you might want to take a look at: > http://www.freebsdforums.org/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/ > >> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: >>> On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: > Hi guys, > > I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to > read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any > popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile > new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu > Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really > wanted the GUI). >>> Hi >>> Why would you want a window manager on your servers? >>> Do you all work directly on the consoles? >>> Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and >>> access your servers remotely? >>> It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and >>> services from the commandline with ssh. >>> Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. >>> This is what I tend to roll-out for other >>> (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured >>> this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before > Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have > a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes > harder (memory loss)... Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a regular basis? Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer almost every aspect of your servers with it. Also you might want to take a look at: http://www.freebsdforums.org/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/ > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: >>> I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of >>> research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God >>> Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes >>> it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ >>> >>> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). >> Hi >> Why would you want a window manager on your servers? >> Do you all work directly on the consoles? >> Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and >> access your servers remotely? >> It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and >> services from the commandline with ssh. >> Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. >> This is what I tend to roll-out for other >> (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured >> this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes harder (memory loss)... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of > > research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God > > Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes > > it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ > > > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to > >> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any > >> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile > >> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu > >> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really > >> wanted the GUI). > Hi > Why would you want a window manager on your servers? > Do you all work directly on the consoles? > Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and > access your servers remotely? > It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and > services from the commandline with ssh. > Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. > This is what I tend to roll-out for other > (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured > this works great for them. > > > DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, > disclosure, copying, > distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you > have received it > by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of > research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God > Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes > it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to >> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any >> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile >> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu >> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really >> wanted the GUI). Hi Why would you want a window manager on your servers? Do you all work directly on the consoles? Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and access your servers remotely? It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and services from the commandline with ssh. Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. This is what I tend to roll-out for other (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: > Hi guys, > > I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to > read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any > popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile > new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu > Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really > wanted the GUI). > > If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ > Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this > email! > > Thanks. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this email! Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
problem using multiple monitors with gnome on FreeBSD 7
I did a new install of 7.0 on a system equipped with an nvidia 4 video port card with just two monitors attached. Xorg --configure worked fine, and setup xorg.conf correctly for both monitors. When I bring up X with gnome as root, both screens get used just fine. However when I bring up X with gnome as a regular user only one screen is used. So the problem appears permission related but I'm sure could be a configuration error as well. So if anyone has any advise on how to fix this, or where to look, I'd appreciate any guidance. Thanks, -Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Installing GNOME on FreeBSD 6
On 4/19/06, Abhishek Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > > > > Can you help me in installing GNOME on FreeBSD Release 6 http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1 Thanks & Regards, > > Abhishek > > > > > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Installing GNOME on FreeBSD 6
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Re: GNOME on FreeBSD
Vlad Tudorache wrote: > I'm using kdm as Display Manager with FreeBSD. If I select a GNOME > session as root and then try to restart/shutdown from GNOME the system > hangs (until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del, when reboot sequence continues > normally). How can I avoid this? Can you switch to a text console (press CTRL+ALT+F1 multiple times)? If so, login, and run `ps -U ' to see whether there are hanging processes. Simon signature.asc Description: Digital signature
GNOME on FreeBSD
I'm using kdm as Display Manager with FreeBSD. If I select a GNOME session as root and then try to restart/shutdown from GNOME the system hangs (until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del, when reboot sequence continues normally). How can I avoid this? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
