Re: Health Monitoring on Dell 600SC

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Tim Judd wrote:




On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin 
 wrote:
  On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Polytropon wrote:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:04:45 -0500 (EST), "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" 
 wrote:
  Hey all,

  I've got a dell 600SC in a remote location, and it's started 
freezing up
  (I'm thinking I've got a dying fan).


I'm not familiar with this special Dell system, but maybe the
tools mbmon and healthd (from ports) can help you to monitor
at least fan speeds and temperatures (as well as voltages).
They're using the kernel's SMB facility.


pciconf -l -v doesn't show an smbus on this system, even with the kernel 
options compiled in.

healthd, I've tried, and it talks to some chips directly, but it hasn't been 
updated in forever.

bsdhwmon looks like it did two releases and went unsupported, reports this 
board as unsupported.

It would appear that older linux kernels find the hardware as follows on this 
link http://hausheer.osola.com/docs/8 (I
realize BSD and linux are different, but perhaps the output there could help 
someone to know if something there is
supported).

Sadly, porting lm_sensors to BSD is hard because of all the kernel dependencies 
and abstraction.  But something more
"universal" under BSD as opposed to several years-outdated ports would be 
REALLY COOL.


Dan,

I'm curious...  and only curious.  Have you discovered if the OpenManage suite works with any drivers on the Linux system? 
Because if OpenManage is a userland utility only, running OpenManage with linux compatibility should work, right?


It would appear that the openmanage stuff requires kernel modules to be 
loaded.  As the way the linuxemu under BSD works, it basically includes a 
whole linux-kernel into the BSD kernel, I doubt any of those modules would 
load.


This is a shame, we've gotten to the point where we can drop in windows 
drivers for things like modems and network cards (which I can easily slap 
a compatible one into my system and ignore the noncompatible one).


But I can't exactly toss another hw monitoring chip in.  :(


My understanding of Linux compat is the ability to run userland apps (not 
drivers) under BSD.  The closed minded attitude of
Dell that will support "X" but not "Y" is offensive to me and that is what 
makes me steer clear of the Dell branded stuff.


The systems came to me free, other than this dying fan thing, they've 
proven ROCK solid (and I have a bank of spare systems).



I hope this might have sparked a interest - but I can't help with the Linux 
compat at all.  I run BSD because it's not Linux.


As do I.  But linux excels in this area.  lm_sensors is better than 
anything available under BSD.  Given the drastic age of the ports I 
mentioned above, what ARE people using to gauge their systems?  Or do 
people just not care about this stuff?


-Dan

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Re: Health Monitoring on Dell 600SC

2009-03-08 Thread Tim Judd
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin <
d...@prime.gushi.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Polytropon wrote:
>
>  On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:04:45 -0500 (EST), "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <
>> d...@prime.gushi.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I've got a dell 600SC in a remote location, and it's started freezing up
>>> (I'm thinking I've got a dying fan).
>>>
>>
>> I'm not familiar with this special Dell system, but maybe the
>> tools mbmon and healthd (from ports) can help you to monitor
>> at least fan speeds and temperatures (as well as voltages).
>> They're using the kernel's SMB facility.
>>
>
> pciconf -l -v doesn't show an smbus on this system, even with the kernel
> options compiled in.
>
> healthd, I've tried, and it talks to some chips directly, but it hasn't
> been updated in forever.
>
> bsdhwmon looks like it did two releases and went unsupported, reports this
> board as unsupported.
>
> It would appear that older linux kernels find the hardware as follows on
> this link http://hausheer.osola.com/docs/8 (I realize BSD and linux are
> different, but perhaps the output there could help someone to know if
> something there is supported).
>
> Sadly, porting lm_sensors to BSD is hard because of all the kernel
> dependencies and abstraction.  But something more "universal" under BSD as
> opposed to several years-outdated ports would be REALLY COOL.
>

Dan,

I'm curious...  and only curious.  Have you discovered if the OpenManage
suite works with any drivers on the Linux system?  Because if OpenManage is
a userland utility only, running OpenManage with linux compatibility should
work, right?

My understanding of Linux compat is the ability to run userland apps (not
drivers) under BSD.  The closed minded attitude of Dell that will support
"X" but not "Y" is offensive to me and that is what makes me steer clear of
the Dell branded stuff.

I hope this might have sparked a interest - but I can't help with the Linux
compat at all.  I run BSD because it's not Linux.

--Tim
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Re: Health Monitoring on Dell 600SC

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Polytropon wrote:


On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:04:45 -0500 (EST), "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" 
 wrote:

Hey all,

I've got a dell 600SC in a remote location, and it's started freezing up
(I'm thinking I've got a dying fan).


I'm not familiar with this special Dell system, but maybe the
tools mbmon and healthd (from ports) can help you to monitor
at least fan speeds and temperatures (as well as voltages).
They're using the kernel's SMB facility.


pciconf -l -v doesn't show an smbus on this system, even with the kernel 
options compiled in.


healthd, I've tried, and it talks to some chips directly, but it hasn't 
been updated in forever.


bsdhwmon looks like it did two releases and went unsupported, reports this 
board as unsupported.


It would appear that older linux kernels find the hardware as follows on 
this link http://hausheer.osola.com/docs/8 (I realize BSD and linux are 
different, but perhaps the output there could help someone to know if 
something there is supported).


Sadly, porting lm_sensors to BSD is hard because of all the kernel 
dependencies and abstraction.  But something more "universal" under BSD as 
opposed to several years-outdated ports would be REALLY COOL.


-Dan

--

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Re: Health Monitoring on Dell 600SC

2009-03-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:04:45 -0500 (EST), "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" 
 wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I've got a dell 600SC in a remote location, and it's started freezing up 
> (I'm thinking I've got a dying fan).

I'm not familiar with this special Dell system, but maybe the
tools mbmon and healthd (from ports) can help you to monitor
at least fan speeds and temperatures (as well as voltages).
They're using the kernel's SMB facility.


-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Health Monitoring on Dell 600SC

2009-03-07 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

Hey all,

I've got a dell 600SC in a remote location, and it's started freezing up 
(I'm thinking I've got a dying fan).


I've seen a thread from this user: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2004-September/001883.html


But seem to recall that non of this worked for me either.

Since there's been no good port of the dell openmanage stuff to BSD (as 
far as I'm aware), anyone have any ideas how I can poll it?


-Dan Mahoney

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