Re: Moving from one port to another
Quoth Eitan Adler on Sunday, 29 August 2010: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Portupgrade won't, AFAIK, cross branches, though I could be wrong about that. There's a 3.0 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid30 and a 3.1 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid31, and I want to make the switch to pick up a feature. Kurt portmaster -o www/squid31 www/squid30 -- Eitan Adler So, if I understand correctly, I could use this to upgrade from python26 to python27? Or perl 5.8.9 to perl 5.12? and everything that depended on the former will be upgraded to the latter? Can I say swet in advance? Is there a way to do that with portupgrade, or is this one of those features that makes portmaster a better mousetrap? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpz9OVWY9Cyh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Moving from one port to another
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Eitan Adler on Sunday, 29 August 2010: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Portupgrade won't, AFAIK, cross branches, though I could be wrong about that. There's a 3.0 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid30 and a 3.1 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid31, and I want to make the switch to pick up a feature. portmaster -o www/squid31 www/squid30 So, if I understand correctly, I could use this to upgrade from python26 to python27? Or perl 5.8.9 to perl 5.12? and everything that depended on the former will be upgraded to the latter? Can I say swet in advance? Is there a way to do that with portupgrade, or is this one of those features that makes portmaster a better mousetrap? portupgrade has had it for a long time: man portupgrade | less '+/-o ORIGIN' ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
On 29/08/2010 20:20:51, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Eitan Adler on Sunday, 29 August 2010: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Portupgrade won't, AFAIK, cross branches, though I could be wrong about that. There's a 3.0 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid30 and a 3.1 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid31, and I want to make the switch to pick up a feature. portmaster -o www/squid31 www/squid30 So, if I understand correctly, I could use this to upgrade from python26 to python27? Or perl 5.8.9 to perl 5.12? and everything that depended on the former will be upgraded to the latter? Can I say swet in advance? Is there a way to do that with portupgrade, or is this one of those features that makes portmaster a better mousetrap? portupgrade has had it for a long time: man portupgrade | less '+/-o ORIGIN' Yes. portmaster has pretty much the same '-o' flag. However, it's not quite so swet (sic) as all that -- all the '-o' flag does, in either portmaster or portupgrade is transfer the dependencies to the new package. In very many cases you would still have to reinstall everything that depends on the replaced package. Sometimes that's because shlibs have different versions -- eg. if you upgrade from mysql-5.0.x to mysql-5.1.x[*], then the ABI version changes and you need to reinstall everything that links against libmysql. With perl, the reason is even simpler -- the perl version number is embedded in the library search path, so until you reinstall, even pure-perl modules are going to be inaccessible. XS modules need relinking in any case. Not entirely sure of the details with python, but certainly any module which is available as dynamically loadable object code will need relinking. Generally, the advice is to forcibly reinstall everything that depends on the package you replaced: portmaster -f -R -r example/port portupgrade -f -r example/port Cheers, Matthew [*] Which is a slightly trickier exercise than most, given you've got to update both mysql-client and mysql-server ports using the '-o' thing. Possibly even the mysql-scripts port if installed. And then you've got to deal with all the dependencies too. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Moving from one port to another
Quoth Warren Block on Sunday, 29 August 2010: On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Eitan Adler on Sunday, 29 August 2010: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Portupgrade won't, AFAIK, cross branches, though I could be wrong about that. There's a 3.0 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid30 and a 3.1 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid31, and I want to make the switch to pick up a feature. portmaster -o www/squid31 www/squid30 So, if I understand correctly, I could use this to upgrade from python26 to python27? Or perl 5.8.9 to perl 5.12? and everything that depended on the former will be upgraded to the latter? Can I say swet in advance? Is there a way to do that with portupgrade, or is this one of those features that makes portmaster a better mousetrap? portupgrade has had it for a long time: man portupgrade | less '+/-o ORIGIN' ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org OK, I just upgrade to python27 using this approach, and everything seemed to work OK. The only oddity is that now two of my ports are ahead of the curve: py27-gdbm-2.7 succeeds port (port has 2.6.5) py27-sqlite3-2.7_1succeeds port (port has 2.6.5_1) I'm not going to worry about that unless someone or something tells me I should. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpSPIUgtp2lj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Moving from one port to another
Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move to the 3.1 branch. I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter way to do this. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
portupgrade, perhaps? On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move to the 3.1 branch. I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter way to do this. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:56:09 -0700 Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move to the 3.1 branch. I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter way to do this. Not much smarter. You might want to use portupgrade or portmaster to make any ports that depend on squid30 depend on the new port - it doesn't really matter much in the case of squid. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move to the 3.1 branch. I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter way to do this. If you use portmaster try portmaster [Common Flags] -o new port dir in /usr/ports installed port -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
Portupgrade won't, AFAIK, cross branches, though I could be wrong about that. There's a 3.0 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid30 and a 3.1 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid31, and I want to make the switch to pick up a feature. Kurt On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 14:06, Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz wrote: portupgrade, perhaps? On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move to the 3.1 branch. I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter way to do this. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 14:33, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:56:09 -0700 Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I've got an installation of squid 3.0.24, and want to move to the 3.1 branch. I could just do a 'make deinstall' on the current version, then do 'make install' in the 3.1 port, but I'm wondering if there's a smarter way to do this. Not much smarter. You might want to use portupgrade or portmaster to make any ports that depend on squid30 depend on the new port - it doesn't really matter much in the case of squid. Kinda what I thought, but worth asking. Thanks, Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Portupgrade won't, AFAIK, cross branches, though I could be wrong about that. There's a 3.0 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid30 and a 3.1 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid31, and I want to make the switch to pick up a feature. Kurt portmaster -o www/squid31 www/squid30 -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving from one port to another
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 21:51, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Portupgrade won't, AFAIK, cross branches, though I could be wrong about that. There's a 3.0 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid30 and a 3.1 branch in /usr/ports/www/squid31, and I want to make the switch to pick up a feature. Kurt portmaster -o www/squid31 www/squid30 Well, that's certainly worth investigating! I haven't used portmaster, so that's definitely new to me. Thanks, Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
