Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
Your broadcom is one of the problem chips, you can probably see the workarounds in the driver. So I would not rule out a problem with the ethernet controller. If you have money to burn on this then install an Intel pci express or 64 bit pci card and disable the onboard ethernet chip and see what happens. However what you really need to do at this time is get your seemingly-random panics to become repeatable. We start with the assumption that this is a hardware problem. PC's in general have 4 areas of hardware that cause problems: ethernet disk IO memory cpu sometimes video is a problem but you can check for this by simply not logging into the console and doing all your access over the network. What you need to do now is go into the ports directories and build some of the stress-testing utilities then run them. Start by running a disk stresser, see if that causes it to panic. Next run a network stresser, see if that causes a panic, next run a cpu stresser, etc.etc. I think you get the idea here. What we are trying to do is find a program that can cause the system to panic on demand, that is a program that really mostly does only 1 thing, either disk, network, memory, etc. Once you got that then you can start hardware substitution on the affected area (if possible) Ted - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer] On 6/25/2006 5:51 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Please post a dmesg output. two of them have now crashed: http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/unix32.dmesg http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/unix35.dmesg Thanks for your interest -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
On 6/23/2006 4:05 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: If you read the complete thread you would have come across this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=83220 And if you read that you would see it was resolved to the unsatisfaction of the PR filer. That is, replace ipf with pf or fix the program. I replaced ipf with pf on all four machines on friday. Unfortunately, one of them just crashed. Still at a loss. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
Please post a dmesg output. Ted - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer] On 6/23/2006 4:05 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: If you read the complete thread you would have come across this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=83220 And if you read that you would see it was resolved to the unsatisfaction of the PR filer. That is, replace ipf with pf or fix the program. I replaced ipf with pf on all four machines on friday. Unfortunately, one of them just crashed. Still at a loss. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
On 6/25/2006 5:51 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Please post a dmesg output. two of them have now crashed: http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/unix32.dmesg http://jeremy.kister.net/tmp/unix35.dmesg Thanks for your interest -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Kister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer] On 6/21/2006 2:25 AM, Jeremy Kister wrote: I have sudden [seemingly random] reboots with all four (see http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2006-02/msg01605.html) while running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE through the PreReleases and now with 6.1-STABLE. I just found a post suggesting that IPF with SMP is bad. See: http://www.monkey.org/freebsd/archive/freebsd-stable/200507/msg00481.html I do have IPF running on all four boxes and SMP is obviously also configured. Does anyone have data beyond this that says I should remove IPF from the kernel or set ipf_enable=NO in my rc.conf ? or was this issue resolved in FreeBSD 6 ? If you read the complete thread you would have come across this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=83220 And if you read that you would see it was resolved to the unsatisfaction of the PR filer. That is, replace ipf with pf or fix the program. This is in the category of doctor it hurts when I do this Root can rm -r / and once most of the system is gone, it will probably panic pretty soon. Root can unmount volumes and make the system panic as well. Neither operation is a failure of the operating system. For ipf to work, the program must be given pretty deep control of the OS. If the program uses that control to make the system crash, then who is at fault? The OS? I don't think so. You might also consider that most people use ipfw. One of the benefits of Open Source is that you can run what you want instead of running what the rest of the lemmings run. The downside of this is that if your doing that and it blows up on you, you have to fix it yourself. The developers are going to fix the things that the rest of the lemmings have problems with first, before working on off-the-beaten-trail stuff, simply because there's more lemmings than you. If you don't like it, see Microsoft - oh I forgot, they handle their bugs exactly the same way - except you can't even fix them for them. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
On 6/21/2006 6:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Did you install the Broadcom patch? Still no takers. Is there a better place to get the attention of a willing kernel developer than freebsd-questions ? -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
Did you install the Broadcom patch? Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Kister Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:26 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer] I've got four identical HP/Compaq DL360 G3 1u servers. Each has the latest available firmware: Proliant P31 (03/03/2005) BIOS HP SmartArray 5i RAID onboard controller (v2.62) (2) HPNC7781 (Broadcom BCM5703) (ASIC rev. 0x1002) 10/100/1000 onboard network card iLO v1.80 (Jul/12/2005) and each has: two Intel Xeon 2.8Ghz w/ Hyperthreading four sticks of 512MB ECC RAM two 36GB SCA disks in RAID1 via SmartArray 5i I have sudden [seemingly random] reboots with all four (see http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2006-0 2/msg01605.html) while running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE through the PreReleases and now with 6.1-STABLE. In an effort to make FreeBSD stable with DL360's, I'm wondering if there's a driver/kernel developer interested in having full remote access to this machine for a week or two (or three) via iLO and root/ssh. Anyone qualified and interested, please let me know. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
On 6/21/2006 6:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Did you install the Broadcom patch? We did apply kern/96806 to one of the four systems, which we found in our massive google search to try to fix the problem. The machine rebooted about 6 hours after having the new code installed, so we undid it. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crashing with HP/Compaq DL360 G3 [paging kernel developer]
On 6/21/2006 2:25 AM, Jeremy Kister wrote: I have sudden [seemingly random] reboots with all four (see http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2006-02/msg01605.html) while running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE through the PreReleases and now with 6.1-STABLE. I just found a post suggesting that IPF with SMP is bad. See: http://www.monkey.org/freebsd/archive/freebsd-stable/200507/msg00481.html I do have IPF running on all four boxes and SMP is obviously also configured. Does anyone have data beyond this that says I should remove IPF from the kernel or set ipf_enable=NO in my rc.conf ? or was this issue resolved in FreeBSD 6 ? -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
