Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Lee Harr
I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open source
software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).
Excellent. Some lucky students there!

I knew about NIS from readings of the handbook years ago, so I revisited
it today, but there' is something that's missing. I understand the NIS
accounts reside on the master server and I have to add users on the master
server. But then, users on workstations will have their home directories
etc referring only to the local machine.
I considered doing the same thing... using NFS mounts. My problem with
it was security. I think NFS v4 has better security. I ended up using thin
clients to one single server. Works quite well. Depends on how many
clients you need though.

Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD / Linux
(only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need to
substitute the following applications:
- Visual C++ (anjuta)
KDevelop is quite nice
- MS Access  (?)
There are a few still in early stages of development. I think
that Kexi (http://www.koffice.org/kexi/) and rekall
(http://www.rekallrevealed.org/) are the most access-like,
but there are others too...

I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have a
ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open source
client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note: mysql/etc won't
do, the school program says ms access, so we need something similiar)
I think that's backwards, really. The database that comes with
access is pretty weak, but many people use access as a front end
to better database engines like postgresql.
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Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 09:36 am, Hugo Silva wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open
> source software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).

>
> Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD /
> Linux (only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need
> to substitute the following applications:
>
> - Visual C++ (anjuta)
> - MS Access  (?)
>
> I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have a
> ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open
> source client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note:
> mysql/etc won't do, the school program says ms access, so we need
> something similiar)
>
>
> Any insight on these issues is most welcome
>
> Regards,
>
> Hugo

Hugo,

You're out of luck where MS Access is concerned.  FreeBSD comes with 
several outstanding database servers; but nothing that matches MS 
Access as a RAD for database clients or a tool for complex, ad hoc 
analysis.  Access makes for a lousy server; but excels as a GUI client.

You can install MS Access on Linux using Codeweaver's Crossover Office 
(a WINE thing); but it seems to have memory limitations, and crashes 
under moderate workloads.

MS Access (Win2K or XP Pro) + PostgreSQL (FreeBSD) is a very powerful 
combination.  

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Hugo Silva
> NIS exports info from a passwd file.  So this will include user
> information and ect... groups can also be exported to... the means
> using NFS you can export a file system or place on a fs. Allowing you
> to export /usr/home or the like

Point well taken, I didn't think on this. Should do the trick :-)

> If the school's whack jobs say you need specifically MS Access, you
> are screwed then since afaik it has not been ported to any thing
> except windows yet.
>

Tell me about it. Who knows if they'll end up using mysql & mysqlcc
instead :-P

Thanks for the suggestions

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Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:36:03 - (GMT)
"Hugo Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open
> source software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).
> 
> I knew about NIS from readings of the handbook years ago, so I
> revisited it today, but there' is something that's missing. I
> understand the NIS accounts reside on the master server and I have
> to add users on the master server. But then, users on workstations
> will have their home directories etc referring only to the local
> machine.
> 
> I want to have users get their home directories from a central
> location too. Is there any 'official' process to make this work,
> with NIS if possible ?
> 
> I plan to have a 'student-shared-area' that will be NFS mounted on
> every workstation on boot, but I want each user to have their files
> available, wherever they login from.
> 
> Also, I assume there is no problem in using NIS accounts with X.
> From the logic of it, there shouldn't be any problems.

NIS exports info from a passwd file.  So this will include user
information and ect... groups can also be exported to... the means
using NFS you can export a file system or place on a fs. Allowing you
to export /usr/home or the like

> A few last questions,
> 
> Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD /
> Linux(only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need
> to substitute the following applications:
>
> - Visual C++ (anjuta)
> - MS Access  (?)

Just browse till you find a few you like... I personally like
xemacs... eclipse and a few others may be a possability too.


For Databases, there are quite a few aviable... check them out till
you find one that fits what you need. 

> I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have
> a ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open
> source client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note:
> mysql/etc won't do, the school program says ms access, so we need
> something similiar)

If the school's whack jobs say you need specifically MS Access, you
are screwed then since afaik it has not been ported to any thing
except windows yet.
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RE: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread LiQuiD
Hi Hugo,

Look to NFS to do that for you.  Here's a link to a page in the online
handbook.  NFS can do exactly what you want

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.ht
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> Subject: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open
source
> software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).
> 
> I knew about NIS from readings of the handbook years ago, so I
revisited
> it today, but there' is something that's missing. I understand the NIS
> accounts reside on the master server and I have to add users on the
master
> server. But then, users on workstations will have their home
directories
> etc referring only to the local machine.
> 
> I want to have users get their home directories from a central
location
> too. Is there any 'official' process to make this work, with NIS if
> possible ?
> 
> I plan to have a 'student-shared-area' that will be NFS mounted on
every
> workstation on boot, but I want each user to have their files
available,
> wherever they login from.
> 
> Also, I assume there is no problem in using NIS accounts with X. From
the
> logic of it, there shouldn't be any problems.
> 
> A few last questions,
> 
> Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD /
Linux
> (only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need to
> substitute the following applications:
> 
> - Visual C++ (anjuta)
> - MS Access  (?)
> 
> I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have a
> ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open source
> client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note: mysql/etc
won't
> do, the school program says ms access, so we need something similiar)
> 
> 
> Any insight on these issues is most welcome
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hugo
> 
> 
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