Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-03 Thread Bruce Cran
Robert Huff wrote: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are added to the kernel. (See previous discussion in this mailing list.) This has - obviously - not happened,

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-03 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 10:25 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 06:04:24PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD specific drivers is

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-02 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:26 -0800 Henrik Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive stating: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-02 Thread Robert Huff
Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Again, it appears that NVIDIA has attempted to work with the FBSD community. Evidently, nothing has come of it. Unfortunate, to say the least. The next step - sometimes suggested, but never to my knowledge attepted - would be for someone to run a

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-02 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 07:26 -0400, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:26 -0800 Henrik Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive stating: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-02 Thread Robert Huff
Da Rock writes: I apologise for jumping into this thread mid way, but wouldn't the problem be simply a case of nil NDA? If an FOSS programmer signed an NDA with say NVidia, then wouldn't the hardware supplier be more willing to supply more specific details? Anyone with experience in

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 06:04:24PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of funds to create and

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-02 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 02:18:10PM -0400, Mungyung Ryu wrote: Hi BSD folks! I installed FreeBSD 7 Release - amd64. I have ATI Radeon HD2600 pro VGA card but ATI is sucks for supporting driver for Linux or FreeBSD! So, I'm considering to replace the dam ATI card with NVIDIA Geforce. I

RE: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:18:10 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC Hi BSD folks! I installed FreeBSD 7 Release - amd64. I have ATI Radeon HD2600 pro VGA card but ATI is sucks for supporting driver for Linux or

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Mungyung Ryu [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive stating: Hi BSD folks! I installed FreeBSD 7 Release - amd64. I have ATI Radeon HD2600 pro VGA card but ATI is sucks for supporting driver for Linux or FreeBSD! So, I'm considering to replace the dam ATI card with

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Huff
Henrik Hudson writes: The driver issue is killing me on FreeBSD. Call the vendors and tell them you want drivers. nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are added to the kernel. (See previous

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I don't wanna play 3D games on FreeBSD, so just cheap Geforce card would be enough, but it should support 1920x1200 resolution. I wonder if what Geforce model is supported by the FreeBSD 7R - amd64. Anybody can recommend? none of them are supported on any arch. unless giving somewhat-working

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:24:33 -0400 Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are added to the kernel. (See previous discussion in this mailing list.) This has -

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of funds to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue from such an expenditure. giving out a specs will be the simplest way.

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Huff
Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are added to the kernel. (See previous discussion in this mailing list.) This has - obviously - not happened, and I do not know of work in

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive stating: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:24:33 -0400 Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of funds to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue from such an

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:52:08 -0400 Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry - wrong list. Try: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html Thanks! Considering the age of the article, Thu Jun 29 11:12:35 UTC 2006, I am surprised that more has not transpired

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive stating: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of

Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
giving out a specs will be the simplest way. Any entity, or corporation, has a right to expect a return on their investment. To expect a corporation to simply give away something, quite a difference. for example - documentation about say pentium 4 assembly language and opcodes are widely