Re: Sendmail is sleepy

2003-09-04 Thread David Landgren
Charles Howse wrote:

Did you enter your hostname and ip address in 
/etc/resolv.conf?  I don't if it 
will fix your problem; but is helps when many applications 
complain about the 
hostname.
I think you mean /etc/hosts, something like

10.0.0.1	larry.domain.tld larry


Andrew Gould


Uh, no I didn't.  Man resolv.conf doesn't say anything about how to do
that, and it's never been necessary.
Putting the above in /etc/hosts is good insurance, if ever your DNS 
servers (the addresses of which are specified in /etc/resolv.conf as 
it happens) go out to lunch.

You have to consider the trade offs between always knowing the IP 
addresses of remote machines when a packet absolutely, positively has 
to get there when your DNS is down, balanced against the likelihood of 
those machine changing IP addresses (upgrades, usually). Which means 
visiting all your servers and updating their hosts files.

David

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RE: Sendmail is sleepy

2003-09-04 Thread Adam McLaurin
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:24, Charles Howse wrote:
 Can you confirm my suspicion that this did not occur prior to
 4.8-RELEASE-p4?

Sorry, I cannot confirm that. It start happening (for me) either in 4.7
or possibly 4.6.2.


 Seems to me that the reason for the p4 patch was something to do with
 sendmail security.
 I'm sure it's in the UPDATING file, I'm too lazy to check right now.

Maybe this is the cause for you. I'm pretty convinced its something in
the way I set things up, but I've never had anyone tell me that my setup
is wrong, so who knows.


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RE: Sendmail is sleepy - SOLVED (sort of)

2003-09-04 Thread Charles Howse
  The fact that the FQDN for this box is simply 'larry' is 
 the cause of
  the problem...?
 
 Yes. Sort of. As I understand it, 'larry' isn't enough to get be an 
 entire FQDN. So, really, it's not a FQDN, since 'larry' isn't a top 
 level domain like 'com' or 'org'. But, more simply, yes, 
 that's part of 
 the problem.

After much frustration, I deleted every .cf file in /etc/mail, and
edited every .mc file to include the line:
Define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `howse.no-ip.org')
Then ran:
# make cf
# make install

That still didn't work.

I remembered that I use a Dynamic DNS service called noip.com to resolve
my dynamic ip to 'howse.no-ip.org' on my Linux box, so I changed my
hostname from 'larry' to 'larry.howse.no-ip.org'.
That fixed it!

Now, when I get mail from FBSD, it comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hoooray!



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Re: Sendmail is sleepy

2003-09-03 Thread Andrew L. Gould
Did you enter your hostname and ip address in /etc/resolv.conf?  I don't if it 
will fix your problem; but is helps when many applications complain about the 
hostname.

Andrew Gould

On Wednesday 03 September 2003 09:32 am, Charles Howse wrote:
 Hi,
 When I boot, I get what I assume are timeouts when loading sendmail.

 Sendmail_submit
 My unqualified hostname (larry) unknown; sleeping for retry
 Unable to qualify my hostname, using short name

 Sendmail-clientmqueue
 My unqualified hostname (larry) unknown; sleeping for retry
 Unable to qualify my hostname, using short name

 How can I make these go away?
 Here is my /etc/rc.conf

 # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Aug 12 07:29:34 2003
 # Created: Tue Aug 12 07:29:34 2003
 # Enable network daemons for user convenience.
 # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
 # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
 defaultrouter=192.168.254.254
 hostname=larry
 ifconfig_tx0=inet 192.168.254.3  netmask 255.255.255.0
 kern_securelevel_enable=NO
 linux_enable=NO
 moused_enable=NO
 moused_type=NO
 nfs_reserved_port_only=YES
 saver=daemon
 sendmail_enable=NO
 sshd_enable=NO
 usbd_enable=NO
 ntpdate_enable=YES
 ntpdate_flags=time.nist.gov
 xntpd_enable=YES
 syslogd_enable=YES
 syslogd_flags=-ss
 clear_tmp_enable=YES
 inetd_flags=-wW -a 192.168.254.3


 Thanks,
 Charles


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RE: Sendmail is sleepy

2003-09-03 Thread Charles Howse
 Did you enter your hostname and ip address in 
 /etc/resolv.conf?  I don't if it 
 will fix your problem; but is helps when many applications 
 complain about the 
 hostname.
 
 Andrew Gould

Uh, no I didn't.  Man resolv.conf doesn't say anything about how to do
that, and it's never been necessary.

I might add that I *think* this behavior began when I upgraded to
4.8-p4.
I don't remember it doing this in -p3.

BTW, I should add that I have not touched any configuration for
sendmail.
I have need only for sendmail to send the daily reports to a user
account on the same machine, and I check that account via popa3d from my
XP box.

 
 On Wednesday 03 September 2003 09:32 am, Charles Howse wrote:
  Hi,
  When I boot, I get what I assume are timeouts when loading sendmail.
 
  Sendmail_submit
  My unqualified hostname (larry) unknown; sleeping for retry
  Unable to qualify my hostname, using short name
 
  Sendmail-clientmqueue
  My unqualified hostname (larry) unknown; sleeping for retry
  Unable to qualify my hostname, using short name
 
  How can I make these go away?
  Here is my /etc/rc.conf
 
  # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Aug 12 07:29:34 2003
  # Created: Tue Aug 12 07:29:34 2003
  # Enable network daemons for user convenience.
  # Please make all changes to this file, not to 
 /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
  # This file now contains just the overrides from 
 /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
  defaultrouter=192.168.254.254
  hostname=larry
  ifconfig_tx0=inet 192.168.254.3  netmask 255.255.255.0
  kern_securelevel_enable=NO
  linux_enable=NO
  moused_enable=NO
  moused_type=NO
  nfs_reserved_port_only=YES
  saver=daemon
  sendmail_enable=NO
  sshd_enable=NO
  usbd_enable=NO
  ntpdate_enable=YES
  ntpdate_flags=time.nist.gov
  xntpd_enable=YES
  syslogd_enable=YES
  syslogd_flags=-ss
  clear_tmp_enable=YES
  inetd_flags=-wW -a 192.168.254.3
 
 
  Thanks,
  Charles
 
 
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Re: Sendmail is sleepy

2003-09-03 Thread Adam McLaurin
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 10:32, Charles Howse wrote:
 Hi,
 When I boot, I get what I assume are timeouts when loading sendmail.
 
 Sendmail_submit
 My unqualified hostname (larry) unknown; sleeping for retry
 Unable to qualify my hostname, using short name
 
 Sendmail-clientmqueue
 My unqualified hostname (larry) unknown; sleeping for retry
 Unable to qualify my hostname, using short name
 
 How can I make these go away?

Hi Charles,
I have had this problems on both my FreeBSD boxes as well, and never
found a good solution.

Here is the relevant parts of my rc.conf:
sendmail_enable=NONE
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO
hostname=jake

Here's my periodic.conf:
daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO  
daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
daily_submit_queuerun=NO

Here is my hosts file:
::1 localhost localhost.my.domain
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.my.domain
127.0.0.1   jake
192.168.56.5elwood


Now for some permissions:

-$ ls -al /usr/sbin/mailwrapper 
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  5432 Aug 13 10:20 /usr/sbin/mailwrapper

-$ ls -al /usr/sbin/sendmail 
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  21 Aug 13 10:20 /usr/sbin/sendmail -
/usr/sbin/mailwrapper


You will see the solution that I found (chmod a-x
/usr/sbin/mailwrapper). This is a dirty hack, but it did the trick. I
don't use sendmail at all.

Let me know if you find a proper solution for this.

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RE: Sendmail is sleepy

2003-09-03 Thread Charles Howse
 Hi Charles,
 I have had this problems on both my FreeBSD boxes as well, and never
 found a good solution.

Ouch!  I hate to hear that.
Can you confirm my suspicion that this did not occur prior to
4.8-RELEASE-p4?
Seems to me that the reason for the p4 patch was something to do with
sendmail security.
I'm sure it's in the UPDATING file, I'm too lazy to check right now.


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