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2009/5/14 Saifi Khan : > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > >> -- >> From: "Saifi Khan" >> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM >> To: "Sean Cavanaugh" >> Cc: ; ; >> >> Subject: RE: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list >> >> > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS). >> > >> > Not true. >> > >> > Please see >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy >> > >> > >> > thanks >> > Saifi. >> > >> >> based on the wiki page (which we ALL know is NEVER wrong) states that >> GNU/Linux is the correct form and the ONLY reason for calling it just Linux >> is >> that its easier to say and that's how its known overall in mainstream media. > > > based on Linus Torvalds (which we ALL know is RIGHT) states that > > when asked if the name GNU/Linux was justified: > > Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you > actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way > that I think that "Red Hat Linux" is fine, or "SuSE Linux" > or "Debian Linux", because if you actually make your own > distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but > calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" i > I think is just ridiculous. > > (G)ot (N)othing (U)nique takes years since 1989 for http://is.gd/zGZh > > > Hope this helps. > > thanks > Saifi. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > [ch...@amnesiac]~% echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd"; | wc -c 38 [ch...@amnesiac]~% echo http://is.gd/zGZh |wc -c 18 Seriously, please don't obfuscate URLs when there's no real need to. Those of us who are careful prefer not to follow strange looking links; it's counterproductive. is.gd and tinyurl are great if you have to type in monstrous links like http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/10/13/Using-Vista_2700_s-Boot-Manager-to-Boot-Linux-and-Dual-Booting-with-BitLocker-Protection-with-TPM-Support.aspx However, there's no need when it's either copy-paste or click, and just confuses things. Also, Torvalds talks about stuff like that far too much. It's only fair to call it GNU/Linux; it IS GNU on top of the Linux kernel. It's like calling Mac OS X Darwin, or NeXTSTEP Mach (or worse, FreeBSD!). Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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> > > based on Linus Torvalds (which we ALL know is RIGHT) states that > > when asked if the name GNU/Linux was justified: > > Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you > actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way > that I think that "Red Hat Linux" is fine, or "SuSE Linux" > or "Debian Linux", because if you actually make your own > distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but > calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" i > I think is just ridiculous. > > (G)ot (N)othing (U)nique takes years since 1989 for http://is.gd/zGZh > > > Hope this helps. > > thanks > Saifi. > And in the end, the world almost never heard of Linux and would have had BSD everywhere. Linus stated that he prob would have never made Linux if the litigation around BSD 4.4 had ended earlier. But why he feels like he can take over the GNU OS just because he made the kernel never made sense to me. I'm glad the GNU project finally got Hurd going though, even though they too almost went with a BSD 4.4 based kernel before Linux came along -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > -- > From: "Saifi Khan" > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM > To: "Sean Cavanaugh" > Cc: ; ; > Subject: RE: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > > > > > > > > (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS). > > > > Not true. > > > > Please see > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy > > > > > > thanks > > Saifi. > > > > based on the wiki page (which we ALL know is NEVER wrong) states that > GNU/Linux is the correct form and the ONLY reason for calling it just Linux is > that its easier to say and that's how its known overall in mainstream media. based on Linus Torvalds (which we ALL know is RIGHT) states that when asked if the name GNU/Linux was justified: Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way that I think that "Red Hat Linux" is fine, or "SuSE Linux" or "Debian Linux", because if you actually make your own distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" i I think is just ridiculous. (G)ot (N)othing (U)nique takes years since 1989 for http://is.gd/zGZh Hope this helps. thanks Saifi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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-- From: "Saifi Khan" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM To: "Sean Cavanaugh" Cc: ; ; Subject: RE: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS). Not true. "Please give us the credit for userland" is the line of reasoning used for the puported TLA prefix ! silly actually. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy thanks Saifi. based on the wiki page (which we ALL know is NEVER wrong) states that GNU/Linux is the correct form and the ONLY reason for calling it just Linux is that its easier to say and that's how its known overall in mainstream media. There is additional in that it also runs non-GNU based programs such as apache, but the base of it all is that Linux by itself is not an OS, just a kernel. Debian Illustrates this perfectly as they have done several different distros using different Kernels to run GNU userland, including FreeBSD ( http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ ), NetBSD, and Hurd. -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > > (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS). Not true. "Please give us the credit for userland" is the line of reasoning used for the puported TLA prefix ! silly actually. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy thanks Saifi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 5/13/09, Shakil Khan wrote: > Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. 1. Surf to http://freebsd.org. 2. Notice that there are now two flavors of FreeBSD: LATEST RELEASES * Production Release 7.2 * Production (Legacy) Release 6.4 3. Click on 'Documentation' and then 'Handbook'. 4. Scroll down to the table of contents of 'Appendix A. Obtaining FreeBSD' and review these possibilities. I suggest you try CVSup. There are CVSup clients available for virtually all Unixen systems, including Linux. NB. Now, read carefully the section on CVSup: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html You can grab whatever source you want with this method. 5. RTFM! -- Duane ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:55:52 -0400 > From: jerr...@msu.edu > To: korikov...@gmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:33:44PM +0530, Shakil Khan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am > > on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly > > and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of > > FreeBSD kernek source code. > > My suggestion would be to download the latest ISO and install it on > a machine with full source. Then you will have kernel and everything > to make a FreeBSD including the correct compilers and libraries. > > Kernel is really dealt with differently in FreeBSD than in Linux. > Although there is a kernel, it is intimately part of the whole > operating system, not a kernel which someone grabs makes up a separate > distribution with. > to piggy-back a little more, FreeBSD is an entire Operating System whereas Linux is just a Kernel used to run the GNU Operating system (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS). the GNU project is currently working on writing their own Kernel named Hurd based off the mach kernel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:33:44PM +0530, Shakil Khan wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am > on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly > and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of > FreeBSD kernek source code. My suggestion would be to download the latest ISO and install it on a machine with full source. Then you will have kernel and everything to make a FreeBSD including the correct compilers and libraries. Kernel is really dealt with differently in FreeBSD than in Linux. Although there is a kernel, it is intimately part of the whole operating system, not a kernel which someone grabs makes up a separate distribution with. jerry > Regards > ~Korikov > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Shakil Khan wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am > on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me > exactly > and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of > FreeBSD kernek source code. > > Regards > ~Korikov > download the ssrc.?? files, cat them together, and then it's a tarfile that needs these arguments to extract tar -xpzf ssrc.tgz -C /preffered/location Hopefully Linux can handle the permissions/paths correctly. --TJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Shakil Khan wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am > on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly > and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of > FreeBSD kernek source code. I'm likely missing something . . . I apologize if I am, but why can't you use CVS on linux? One of many examples found after googling "installing cvs linux": http://www.freeos.com/articles/4608/ > > Regards > ~Korikov > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Shakil Khan wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am > on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly > and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of > FreeBSD kernek source code. > You can install using sysinstall, but that will be out of date. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi, Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of FreeBSD kernek source code. Regards ~Korikov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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I'm trying to configure mod_authn_dbd to use a mysql database. I'm running MySQL 5.0.18 and Apache 2.2 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE. Here's what I have for configuration: # Database Management DBDriver mysql #Connection string: database name and login credentials DBDParams "dbname=UserDirectory user=readonly password=moo" #Parameters for Connection Pool Management DBDMin 1 DBDKeep 2 DBDMax 10 DBDExptime 60 NameVirtualHost 192.168.1.7 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/apache22/data ServerName intranet.example.com ErrorLog logs/intranet.example.com-error_log AuthType Basic AuthName "Intranet" AuthBasicProvider dbd Require valid-user AuthDBDUserPWQuery "select password from user_permissions where username = %s" When I try to start apache, I'm getting a segfault: fry# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22.sh onerestart Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration: Segmentation fault (core dumped) I've tried removing each config option one at a time, and the offending directive is AuthDBDUserPWQuery. Is there something I'm doing wrong here? I've verified that the server is running, the username+password is correct, and the query is valid. Is there anything I got wrong here? Is apr_dbd_mysql incompatible with my version of MySQL, FreeBSD, or Apache? - Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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I installed a port acroread from my sysinsall from frebsd 5.0 on my system i than told kde to use acroread to open all pdf files ghostview would not work so i decided to use acroread when i than try to launch the program it says "cant find acroread" i found the exe and tried to launch it by itself again same message? i read that there was some problems with it being ported to the wrong directory, is that the problem? if so what directory should it be in? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Hi, I have a system users in Linux Redhat and I want migrate to FreeBSD, but I have a problem: FreeBSD limit size to 16 characters. I need some characters. Help, please! Sorry, my bad english ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
