RFC: Free Software Hardware Compatibility - Centralised DB

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
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* Please do not reply-all (this is essentially an announcement and
request for comments. For further discussion, please advise that you
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looking for an appropriate site to host this)).

* Please forward this as appropriate (namely to those involved in
hardware compatibility, certification, driver development, and/ or
manufacture, as it relates to our free software community).



ASSUMPTION:

We in the free software community wish to have better and more up to
date hardware identification and support.

We assume that it is in the best interests of each Free Software
Unix-like operating system distribution, each kernel (eg. Linux, *BSD,
HURD) and in the best interests of the end users, to have a centralised/
unified location for hardware information.

First and foremost though, it is in the best interests of the
manufacturers - to simplify their job:

For Microsoft, they have a single point of contact.

Contrast this with the numerous HCLs, hardware sites (such as
www.linux1394.org and linuxprinting.org), kernels and distributions,
such as Debian, Red Hat, FreeBSD and a myriad of others.

As a manufacturer, it is simply impossible to (generally) go anywhere
near supporting all these free software projects.

And so it is in the best interests of each of us individually, and
collectively, if we can simplify the job of the manufacturer.

As a manufacturer of a widget, if I have a single, commonly known place
to go to provide technical and contact information, as much or as little
as I desire (even perhaps just bus IDs and product names), then I might
actually do so.

We, as a community, might just have a hope of keeping up to date as
compared with the proprietary os's out there, namely MSW*.


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So, I hereby propose such a database be established.

I am willing to contribute some of my own time and effort to doing so.

This database and surrounding facilities will be os-, vendor-,
distribution- and kernel- neutral, and will thereby attract many
otherwise disparate parties, such as the BSDs and the GNU/Linux distros.

If you and/ or your company is interested in supporting this effort, by
way of working together on this project to unify HCLs, device and driver
information or the like, then please reply to me and let me know that
you would like to be added to the soon-to-be-created mailing list.

If your organization can actively devote even some small resources to
the project, that is obviously very much appreciated.


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Once the database and submission facilities are minimally established, I
propose that relevant parties widely advertise/ promote the fact to
manufacturers (and users and developers too), that this database is the
preferred and centralized means of submission of such information.

The plan is to integrate seamlessly with existing Distribution-specific
HCLs and due to the centralization provide and richer facility than is
otherwise possible today.


Thank you in advance, and regards to all,
Zenaan


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Re: RFC: Free Software Hardware Compatibility - Centralised DB

2004-06-11 Thread Joel Rees
(Apologies in advance --)
On 2004.6.11, at 06:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
PLEASE NOTE:
* Please do not reply-all
Sorry, when you break the rules, the rules are broken. However,
...
ASSUMPTION:
...
We assume that it is in the best interests of each Free Software
Unix-like operating system distribution, each kernel (eg. Linux, *BSD,
HURD) and in the best interests of the end users, to have a 
centralised/
unified location for hardware information.
...
I'm not sure that centralization is a valid assumption in the open 
source community.

Getting hardware is only half the battle. I think that what the members 
of the open source community would prefer is that individuals and 
companies who have hardware to donate would be aware of (1) what 
projects they want or need to support and (2) where the hardware they 
have to donate can best be used. (It's a free market, we just use a 
different currency, so to speak.)

That said, I suspect that, if a company or individual has hardware to 
donate and is not sure where it should go, a broadcast troll like this 
might actually be appropriate.

(Which is why I'm even further breaking protocol here.)
--
Joel Rees
Opinions are like armpits.
We all have two, and they all smell,
but we really don't want the other guy to get rid of his.
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Re: RFC: Free Software Hardware Compatibility - Centralised DB

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 09:03, Joel Rees wrote:
  ...
  ASSUMPTION:
  ...
  We assume that it is in the best interests of each Free Software
  Unix-like operating system distribution, each kernel (eg. Linux, *BSD,
  HURD) and in the best interests of the end users, to have a 
  centralised/
  unified location for hardware information.
  ...
 
 I'm not sure that centralization is a valid assumption in the open 
 source community.

The centralization is so that manufacturers have a single point of
contact to submit their own hardware information to, however much or
little that might be.

 ...is that individuals and 
 companies who have hardware to donate ...

This project has _nothing_ to do with donating hardware.

It is about a Hardware Information Database.

Hope that's clear to all
Zenaan
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