Re: / slice too small

2010-03-04 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:23 pm, krad wrote:
> 2010/3/4 Malcolm Kay 
>
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote:
> > > On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay
> >
> >  wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote:
> > > > > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris
> > > >
> > > > wrote:

> > > > >
> > > > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than
> > > > > dump. Just make sure you use the following flags
> > > > >
> > > > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids
> > > >
> > > > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably
> > > > OK if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar
> > > > situation as doing backups with tar. These schemes also
> > > > alter the access times on files (which I guess doesn't
> > > > usually matter too much).
> > > >
> > > > But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync
> > > > and manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with
> > > > questionable schemes.
> > >
> > > I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in
> > > this case its not a problem as he will be in single user
> > > mode.
> >
> > I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem.
> >
> > > Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are
> > > intact.
> >
> > I did not mention modification times but access times which
> > I admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for
> > any utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only
> > exception I know of.
> >
> > Sorry i misread
> >
> > > I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very
> > > effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small
> > > numbers of files than having to go digging into dump
> > > files.
> >
> > I've not found this too difficult even when working with
> > compressed dumps.
> >
> > > The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean
> > > we can do incremental forever, as well which is much more
> > > efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps.
> >
> > Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but
> > this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem.
> >
> > For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the
> > effectiveness. For example when you are asked to recover the
> > original of a file that was changed before the lastest
> > backup. Many of us think it desirable to regularly archive
> > complete backups.
>
> This is not a problem in our scenario as the backend storage
> is zfs and all underpinned with snapshots. This enables us to
> retrieve and file from any day for the last x days dependent
> on the retention period.

Sounds good. I have no experience with zfs. But I suggest that 
'x' needs to be quite large.

Anyway I think we (or rather I) have done the subject to death,
and it is time for me to keep quiet.

Regards,
Malcolm


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Re: / slice too small

2010-03-04 Thread krad
2010/3/4 Malcolm Kay 

> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote:
> > On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay
>  wrote:
> > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote:
> > > > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote:
> > > > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to
> > > > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is
> > > > > > woefully small:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ df -h
> > > > > > FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted
> > > > > > on /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> > > > > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > > > > /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> > > > > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%
> > > > > > /var/named/dev
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a
> > > > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and
> > > > > > change the partition table?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you
> > > > > have another medium
> > > > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will
> > > > > store the images of
> > > > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can
> > > > > then use FixIt console to
> > > > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then
> > > > > restore(8) your images in the newly sliced hard disk.
> > > > > Actually, if you have another hard disk device, you can
> > > > > use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one
> > > > > disk to the other and make the second one your bootable
> > > > > disk. Of course you must have sliced the second device
> > > > > first.
> > > > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an
> > > > > openSUSE partition I had,
> > > > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second
> > > > > time was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk
> > > > > (physical device). The new disk became my boot disk.
> > > > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger
> > > > > hard disk device and at
> > > > > the same time be formated as ZFS.
> > > > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device,
> > > > > having ZFS and the operating system is the same as that
> > > > > I first installed (of cource updated...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Elias
> > > > > ___
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> > > > >ons To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
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> > > >
> > > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than
> > > > dump. Just make sure you use the following flags
> > > >
> > > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids
> > >
> > > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK
> > > if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation
> > > as doing backups with tar. These schemes also alter the
> > > access times on files (which I guess doesn't usually matter
> > > too much).
> > >
> > > But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and
> > > manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with
> > > questionable schemes.
> >
> > I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in
> > this case its not a problem as he will be in single user mode.
>
> I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem.
> >
> > Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are
> > intact.
>
> I did not mention modification times but access times which I
> admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for any
> utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only exception I
> know of.
>
> Sorry i misread

>
> > I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very
> > effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small
> > numbers of files than having to go digging into dump files.
> >
>
> I've not found this too difficult even when working with
> compressed dumps.
>
> > The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we
> > can do incremental forever, as well which is much more
> > efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps.
>
> Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but
> this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem.
>
> For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the effectiveness.
> For example when you are asked to recover the original of a file
> that was changed before the lastest backup. Many of us think it
> desirable to regularly archive complete backups.
>
>
This is not a problem in our scenario as the backend storage is zfs and all
underpinned with snapshots. This enables us to retrieve and file from any
day for the last x days dependent on the retention period.



> But each to his own; backup methods and strategies have always

Re: / slice too small

2010-03-03 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote:
> On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris 
wrote:
> > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote:
> > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to
> > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is
> > > woefully small:
> > >
> > > $ df -h
> > > FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%   
> > > /var/named/dev
> > >
> > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a
> > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop.
> > >
> > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change
> > > the partition table?
> > >
> > > Any suggestions gratefully received.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> >
> > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you
> > have another medium
> > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will
> > store the images of
> > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then
> > use FixIt console to
> > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8)
> > your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you
> > have another hard disk device, you can use piped
> > dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the
> > other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course
> > you must have sliced the second device first.
> > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an
> > openSUSE partition I had,
> > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time
> > was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical
> > device). The new disk became my boot disk.
> > The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard
> > disk device and at
> > the same time be formated as ZFS.
> > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having
> > ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first
> > installed (of cource updated...)
> >
> > Elias
> > ___
> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
>
> You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump.
> Just make sure you use the following flags
>
> rsync -aHP --numeric-ids

To preserve extended flags set with chflags you also need
  --fileflags
and the fileflags patch enabled on installing rsync.
For example look at:
#ls -lo /var
and note flag on empty. 

Malcolm Kay
>
> I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored
> countless freebsd boxes.
>
> When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks
>
> eg
>
> fdisk -B ad0
> bsdlabel -B ad0s1
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Re: / slice too small

2010-03-03 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote:
> On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay 
 wrote:
> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote:
> > > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote:
> > > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to
> > > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is
> > > > > woefully small:
> > > > >
> > > > > $ df -h
> > > > > FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted
> > > > > on /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> > > > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > > > /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> > > > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%
> > > > > /var/named/dev
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a
> > > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and
> > > > > change the partition table?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you
> > > > have another medium
> > > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will
> > > > store the images of
> > > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can
> > > > then use FixIt console to
> > > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then
> > > > restore(8) your images in the newly sliced hard disk.
> > > > Actually, if you have another hard disk device, you can
> > > > use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one
> > > > disk to the other and make the second one your bootable
> > > > disk. Of course you must have sliced the second device
> > > > first.
> > > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an
> > > > openSUSE partition I had,
> > > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second
> > > > time was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk
> > > > (physical device). The new disk became my boot disk.
> > > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger
> > > > hard disk device and at
> > > > the same time be formated as ZFS.
> > > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device,
> > > > having ZFS and the operating system is the same as that
> > > > I first installed (of cource updated...)
> > > >
> > > > Elias
> > > > ___
> > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questi
> > > >ons To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
> > >
> > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than
> > > dump. Just make sure you use the following flags
> > >
> > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids
> >
> > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK
> > if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation
> > as doing backups with tar. These schemes also alter the
> > access times on files (which I guess doesn't usually matter
> > too much).
> >
> > But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and
> > manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with
> > questionable schemes.
>
> I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in
> this case its not a problem as he will be in single user mode.

I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem.
>
> Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are
> intact.

I did not mention modification times but access times which I 
admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for any 
utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only exception I 
know of.

>
> I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very
> effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small
> numbers of files than having to go digging into dump files.
>

I've not found this too difficult even when working with 
compressed dumps.

> The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we
> can do incremental forever, as well which is much more
> efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps.

Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but
this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem.

For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the effectiveness.
For example when you are asked to recover the original of a file 
that was changed before the lastest backup. Many of us think it 
desirable to regularly archive complete backups.

But each to his own; backup methods and strategies have always 
been something of a controverial issues.

>
> > Malcolm Kay
> >
> > > I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored
> > > countless freebsd boxes.
> > >
> > > When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot
> > > blocks
> > >
> > > eg
> > >
> > > fdisk -B ad0
> > > bsdlabel -B ad0s1
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Re: / slice too small

2010-03-03 Thread krad
On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay  wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote:
> > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris
> wrote:
> > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote:
> > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to
> > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is
> > > > woefully small:
> > > >
> > > > $ df -h
> > > > FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > > /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> > > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > > /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> > > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%
> > > > /var/named/dev
> > > >
> > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a
> > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop.
> > > >
> > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change
> > > > the partition table?
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions gratefully received.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you
> > > have another medium
> > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will
> > > store the images of
> > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then
> > > use FixIt console to
> > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8)
> > > your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you
> > > have another hard disk device, you can use piped
> > > dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the
> > > other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course
> > > you must have sliced the second device first.
> > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an
> > > openSUSE partition I had,
> > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time
> > > was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical
> > > device). The new disk became my boot disk.
> > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard
> > > disk device and at
> > > the same time be formated as ZFS.
> > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having
> > > ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first
> > > installed (of cource updated...)
> > >
> > > Elias
> > > ___
> > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> > > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
> >
> > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump.
> > Just make sure you use the following flags
> >
> > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids
> >
> This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK if
> you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation as doing
> backups with tar. These schemes also alter the access times on
> files (which I guess doesn't usually matter too much).
>
> But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and manages
> snapshots for you, so why mess about with questionable schemes.
>
>
I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in this case its not
a problem as he will be in single user mode.

Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are intact.

I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very effective, and the
noc find it far easier to recover small numbers of files than having to go
digging into dump files.

The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we can do
incremental forever, as well which is much more efficient than having to do
regular level 0 dumps.



> Malcolm Kay
>
> > I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored
> > countless freebsd boxes.
> >
> > When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks
> >
> > eg
> >
> > fdisk -B ad0
> > bsdlabel -B ad0s1
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Re: / slice too small

2010-03-03 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote:
> On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris 
wrote:
> > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote:
> > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to
> > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is
> > > woefully small:
> > >
> > > $ df -h
> > > FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> > > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%   
> > > /var/named/dev
> > >
> > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a
> > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop.
> > >
> > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change
> > > the partition table?
> > >
> > > Any suggestions gratefully received.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> >
> > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you
> > have another medium
> > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will
> > store the images of
> > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then
> > use FixIt console to
> > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8)
> > your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you
> > have another hard disk device, you can use piped
> > dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the
> > other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course
> > you must have sliced the second device first.
> > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an
> > openSUSE partition I had,
> > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time
> > was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical
> > device). The new disk became my boot disk.
> > The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard
> > disk device and at
> > the same time be formated as ZFS.
> > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having
> > ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first
> > installed (of cource updated...)
> >
> > Elias
> > ___
> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
>
> You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump.
> Just make sure you use the following flags
>
> rsync -aHP --numeric-ids
>
This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK if
you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation as doing
backups with tar. These schemes also alter the access times on 
files (which I guess doesn't usually matter too much).

But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and manages 
snapshots for you, so why mess about with questionable schemes.

Malcolm Kay

> I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored
> countless freebsd boxes.
>
> When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks
>
> eg
>
> fdisk -B ad0
> bsdlabel -B ad0s1
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Re: / slice too small

2010-02-28 Thread krad
On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris wrote:

> On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote:
> > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but
> > looking at the root slice it is woefully small:
> >
> > $ df -h
> > FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
> >
> > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet
> > connection to my desktop.
> >
> > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change the partition
> > table?
> >
> > Any suggestions gratefully received.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
> Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you have another
> medium
> to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will store the images
> of
> your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then use FixIt console
> to
> re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) your images in
> the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you have another hard disk device,
> you can use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to
> the
> other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course you must have
> sliced the second device first.
> I've done this many times. The first was to remove an openSUSE partition I
> had,
> living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time was to move my
> FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical device). The new disk became my boot
> disk.
> The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard disk device and
> at
> the same time be formated as ZFS.
> Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having ZFS and the
> operating system is the same as that I first installed (of cource
> updated...)
>
> Elias
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You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump. Just make sure
you use the following flags

rsync -aHP --numeric-ids

I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored countless freebsd
boxes.

When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks

eg

fdisk -B ad0
bsdlabel -B ad0s1
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[Fwd: Re: / slice too small]

2010-02-28 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Sorry, I forgot to include the list!

Uli.



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Von: Peter Ulrich Kruppa 
> An: Frank Shute 
> Betreff: Re: / slice too small
> Datum: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:52:05 +0100
> 
> Am Sonntag, den 28.02.2010, 13:26 + schrieb Frank Shute:
> > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but
> > looking at the root slice it is woefully small:
> > 
> > $ df -h
> > FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> > devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
> > 
> > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet
> > connection to my desktop.
> > 
> > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change the partition
> > table?
> Check if your /boot/kernel directory *much* bigger than let's say about 45 MB.
> Then you probably have built your kernel with debugging symbols which
> will make it too big for your root partition.
> In /etc/make.conf add the line
>   INSTALL_NODEBUG="yes"
> and rebuild your kernel.
> 
> Good luck
>   
> Uli. 
> 
> > Any suggestions gratefully received.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> 

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Re: / slice too small

2010-02-28 Thread Elias Chrysocheris
On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote:
> I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but
> looking at the root slice it is woefully small:
> 
> $ df -h
> FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad4s2190M146M 29M84%/
> devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> /dev/ad4s4129G 15G104G12%/usr
> devfs 1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/var/named/dev
> 
> I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet
> connection to my desktop.
> 
> How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change the partition
> table?
> 
> Any suggestions gratefully received.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 

Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you have another medium 
to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will store the images of 
your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then use FixIt console to 
re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) your images in 
the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you have another hard disk device, 
you can use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the 
other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course you must have 
sliced the second device first.
I've done this many times. The first was to remove an openSUSE partition I had, 
living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time was to move my 
FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical device). The new disk became my boot 
disk.
The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard disk device and at 
the same time be formated as ZFS.
Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having ZFS and the 
operating system is the same as that I first installed (of cource updated...)

Elias
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