Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-03 Thread jdow

Please excuse me for being picky here. Contrast ratio is not nearly
as important as color tracking if color fidelity is important to the
user. I'd look for good reviews on the two

Somebody who is spending all her time in Eclipse developing non-graphics
software a higher contrast ratio might reduce fatigue. But if the
person is using graphics a lot and visual fidelity is important I'd
recommend finding a site on the web that reviews monitors for their
various colorimitry factors. (And a gamer might want to check for
reviews that are gamer related.)

{^_^}   Joanne

From: "Derek Ragona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You need to compare more than just the resolution.  Differences in LCD's 
are digital vs analog, some do both.  Digital is preferred if your video 
will support it.  The contrast ratio:  300:1, 500:1, 600:1, 1000:1, 
etc.  More is better in contrast.  Last is the update speed in ms.  You 
want faster update speeds when given a choice.  The update speed effects 
how crisp the image is when changing, say viewing a video of gaming, but 
even in regular refreshing of the screen.


-Derek


At 04:58 PM 8/2/2006, dick hoogendijk wrote:

Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024)
The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17"
What would to your opinions be the right thing to do.
Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp)
19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-)
Thanks for any advice.

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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-03 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 05:26:22PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Wednesday,  2 August 2006 at 21:00:43 -0500, David Kelly wrote:
> >
> > On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> >
> >> Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs.
> >
> > So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less than
> > 30"
> > http://www.apple.com/displays/
> 
> The real question is resolution, not size.  Even the 30" display has a
> resolution of only 2560x1600.  A reasonable 19" CRT will do 1600x1200,
> or nearly 50% of that resolution.  If you compare the prices ($2499
> for the Apple display, about $130 for the 19" monitor), and recall
> that the original poster didn't want to spend much money, this really
> isn't an option.

Sorry my attempt at humor wasn't more obvious.

One big difference with an LCD display vs CRT is that one should
purchase the LCD with the resolution one intends to run. Most can
autosync and fake other resolutions but the LCD is a fixed matrix so
nothing but its native resolution will look right.

If display drivers properly understand DPI then in theory they can
compensate but most often graphics are hardcoded X/Y and display a fixed
pixel size no matter the DPI. A laptop with high numerical LCD
resolution isn't necessarily more desirable than one with same size
display but lower resolution.

When shopping for 17" and 19" LCDs I have noticed most have the same
numerical resolution. Think my home 19" is a Dell FP1905 at 1280x1024.
Now discontinued in favor of the FP1907 which many do not like as well
as the '05. My biggest complaint is that its dimmest setting is maybe a
touch brighter than my preference.

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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-03 Thread Derek Ragona
You need to compare more than just the resolution.  Differences in LCD's 
are digital vs analog, some do both.  Digital is preferred if your video 
will support it.  The contrast ratio:  300:1, 500:1, 600:1, 1000:1, 
etc.  More is better in contrast.  Last is the update speed in ms.  You 
want faster update speeds when given a choice.  The update speed effects 
how crisp the image is when changing, say viewing a video of gaming, but 
even in regular refreshing of the screen.


-Derek


At 04:58 PM 8/2/2006, dick hoogendijk wrote:

Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024)
The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17"
What would to your opinions be the right thing to do.
Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp)
19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-)
Thanks for any advice.

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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-03 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday,  2 August 2006 at 21:00:43 -0500, David Kelly wrote:
>
> On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote:
>
>> Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs.
>
> So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less than
> 30"
> http://www.apple.com/displays/

The real question is resolution, not size.  Even the 30" display has a
resolution of only 2560x1600.  A reasonable 19" CRT will do 1600x1200,
or nearly 50% of that resolution.  If you compare the prices ($2499
for the Apple display, about $130 for the 19" monitor), and recall
that the original poster didn't want to spend much money, this really
isn't an option.

More to the point, though, it's not until you get to the 23" screen
that you get the same resolution as my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop has
(1920x1200).  At $1299, it costs nearly as much as the laptop.

Last month I was in this situation myself.  I bought 2 new 19"
monitors (BenQ P992), for about USD 130 a piece.  I'm running them at
1600x1200, and they're surprisingly good.  It could be a long time
before I find an LCD with that resolution at even close to a
comparable price.  On the other hand, if HDTV ever comes off, we can
expect to see a lot of 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 displays at reasonable
prices.

Greg
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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Aug 2, 2006, at 8:00 PM, David Kelly wrote:



On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote:


Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs.


So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less  
than 30"

http://www.apple.com/displays/



Don't stop there.  Two of said, or at least one of said and one  
smaller one...  (I have the 30" and the 20" on my G5 :-)  I am  
interested to see what Steve announces next week at the Apple  
developers conference next week (WWDC).  Rumor is it will be the Pro  
intel based machines.  Would like one with dual 30" :-)


Chad

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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-02 Thread David Kelly


On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote:


Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs.


So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less than  
30"

http://www.apple.com/displays/

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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-02 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 8/2/06, dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024)
The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17"
What would to your opinions be the right thing to do.
Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp)
19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-)
Thanks for any advice.



Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs.


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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Aug 2, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote:



Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024)
The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17"
What would to your opinions be the right thing to do.
Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal  
sharp)

19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-)
Thanks for any advice.


If the quality is good, go for the bigger one.
Then you can set back a little instead of hunching
forward to see the little stuff.   The sharpness will
be so much better than an old CRT that the tiny difference
in sharpness will not be meaningful.


It all depends on your eyes :-)

I don't know what the costs are in Holland but you may want to see if  
you can find a 19" widescreen (1440x900) screen...   I just got one  
from "Hanns-G" for $180 and it is quite nice and in the same ballpark  
as standard 19" but with more "usable" space.


Chad


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Re: 17" or 19"

2006-08-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024)
> The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17"
> What would to your opinions be the right thing to do.
> Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp)
> 19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-)
> Thanks for any advice.

If the quality is good, go for the bigger one.
Then you can set back a little instead of hunching
forward to see the little stuff.   The sharpness will
be so much better than an old CRT that the tiny difference
in sharpness will not be meaningful.

jerry

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