Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-03 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:09, T Kellers wrote:
> On Saturday 03 January 2004 01:54 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> 
> > Yes, it's running.  When I run the command from the command line now, it
> > jumps right to the next line waiting for further input.  It's as if it
> > played it as requested but I hear nothing.  My volume is up on the
> > speakers, mixer levels are good...just no sound. :-(
> >
> > No console beeps either.
> >
> > This is in KDE.
> 
> Can you paster the results of:
> 
> #kldstat
> 
> #cat /dev/sndstat
> 
> And tell me again (I lost that part of the thread) which Sound Card you have 
> installed?
> 
> Tim
> 

%kldstat -v
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 15 0xc040 4f1014   kernel
Contains modules:
Id Name
 1 xpt
 2 probe
 3 cam
 4 cd
 5 ch
 6 da
 7 pass
 8 sa
 9 ses
10 isa/ata
11 pci/atapci
12 atapci/ata
13 acd
14 pci/bfe
15 bfe/miibus
16 pci/bge
17 bge/miibus
18 eisa/mainboard
19 eisab/eisa
20 legacy/eisa
21 fwohci/firewire
22 pci/fwohci
23 cardbus/fwohci
24 firewire/fwe
25 firewire/sbp
26 pci/fxp
27 cardbus/fxp
28 fxp/miibus
29 g_md
30 md
31 miibus/amphy
32 miibus/bmtphy
33 miibus/brgphy
34 miibus/dcphy
35 miibus/e1000phy
36 miibus/xlphy
37 miibus/inphy
38 miibus/mlphy
39 miibus/nsphy
40 miibus/nsgphy
41 miibus/pnphy
42 miibus/pnaphy
43 miibus/rgephy
44 miibus/rlphy
45 miibus/ruephy
46 miibus/tdkphy
47 miibus/tlphy
48 miibus/ukphy
49 miibus/xmphy
50 miibus/lxtphy
51 miibus/qsphy
52 miibus/acphy
53 null
54 pci/eisab
55 pci/fixup_pci
56 pci/ignore_pci
57 pci/isab
58 pcib/pci
59 pci/pcib
60 ppbus/plip
61 ppbus/lpt
62 ppc/ppbus
63 ppbus/ppi
64 random
65 pci/re
66 cardbus/re
67 re/miibus
68 pci/sio
69 cardbus/sio
70 isa/snd_ad1816
71 isa/snd_es1888
72 sbc/snd_ess
73 isa/esscontrol
74 isa/snd_gusc
75 isa/snd_mss
76 acpi/snd_mss
77 isa/snd_pnpmss
78 gusc/snd_guspcm
79 sbc/snd_sb16
80 sbc/snd_sb8
81 isa/snd_sbc
82 pci/snd_als4000
83 pci/snd_cmi
84 pci/snd_cs4281
85 pci/snd_csa
86 csa/snd_csapcm
87 pci/snd_ds1
88 pci/snd_emu10k1
89 pci/emujoy
90 pci/snd_es137x
91 pci/snd_fm801
92 pci/snd_ich
93 pci/snd_maestro
94 pci/snd_neomagic
95 pci/snd_solo
96 pci/snd_t4dwave
97 pci/snd_via8233
98 pci/snd_via82c686
99 pci/snd_vibes
100 snd_pcm
101 uhub/uaudio
102 uaudio/ua_pcm
103 pci/tx
104 tx/miibus
105 pci/ohci
106 cardbus/ohci
107 uhub/ugen
108 pci/uhci
109 cardbus/uhci
110 uhub/uhid
111 usb/uhub
112 uhub/uhub
113 uhub/ukbd
114 uhub/ulpt
115 uhub/umass
116 uhub/ums
117 uhub/urio
118 uhub/uscanner
119 ohci/usb
120 uhci/usb
121 ehci/usb
122 devfs
123 msdosfs
124 procfs
125 pseudofs
126 g_dev
127 g_disk
128 isab/isa
129 eisab/isa
130 legacy/isa
131 isa/isahint
132 isa/orm
133 isa/pnp
134 cd9660
135 elf32
136 shell
137 rootbus
138 msgsys
139 msgctl
140 msgget
141 msgsnd

Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-03 Thread T Kellers
On Saturday 03 January 2004 01:54 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:

> Yes, it's running.  When I run the command from the command line now, it
> jumps right to the next line waiting for further input.  It's as if it
> played it as requested but I hear nothing.  My volume is up on the
> speakers, mixer levels are good...just no sound. :-(
>
> No console beeps either.
>
> This is in KDE.

Can you paster the results of:

#kldstat

#cat /dev/sndstat

And tell me again (I lost that part of the thread) which Sound Card you have 
installed?

Tim

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Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-03 Thread Trey Sizemore
T Kellers wrote:

On Friday 02 January 2004 08:32 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 

T Kellers wrote:
   

On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 

Eric F Crist wrote:
   

On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
 

Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
   

I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
5 years now.
HTH
 

Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
it as well.
I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.

When I try something like

% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

I get:

play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device

What might be causing this that I could look into?
   

%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server

However
artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
works fine as long as artsd is running

%ps -ax | grep arts
14333  p0  S  0:01.69 artsd
14343  p0  R+ 0:00.00 grep arts
If you have KDE installed, try:

%artsd &
%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.

Tim
 

Tried that and I get the following:

Can't connect to sound server
   

Please try:
ps -ax | grep arts
and see if artsd is running

If you start it manually you need to run artsd & before you type the test file 
entry.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT
 

Yes, it's running.  When I run the command from the command line now, it 
jumps right to the next line waiting for further input.  It's as if it 
played it as requested but I hear nothing.  My volume is up on the 
speakers, mixer levels are good...just no sound. :-(

No console beeps either.

This is in KDE.
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Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-02 Thread T Kellers
On Friday 02 January 2004 08:32 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> T Kellers wrote:
> >On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> >>Eric F Crist wrote:
> >>>On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
> Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
> all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
> beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
> >>>
> >>>I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
> >>>fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
> >>>worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
> >>>managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
> >>>sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
> >>>5 years now.
> >>>
> >>>HTH
> >>
> >>Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
> >>only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
> >>
> >>'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
> >>it as well.
> >>
> >>I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.
> >>
> >>When I try something like
> >>
> >>% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >>
> >>I get:
> >>
> >>play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
> >>
> >>What might be causing this that I could look into?
> >
> >%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
> >
> >
> >I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server
> >
> >However
> >artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >
> >works fine as long as artsd is running
> >
> >%ps -ax | grep arts
> >14333  p0  S  0:01.69 artsd
> >14343  p0  R+ 0:00.00 grep arts
> >
> >
> >If you have KDE installed, try:
> >
> >%artsd &
> >%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >
> >You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.
> >
> >Tim
>
> Tried that and I get the following:
>
> Can't connect to sound server

Please try:
ps -ax | grep arts

and see if artsd is running

If you start it manually you need to run artsd & before you type the test file 
entry.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT

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Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-02 Thread Trey Sizemore
T Kellers wrote:

On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 

Eric F Crist wrote:
   

On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
 

Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
   

I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
5 years now.
HTH
 

Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
it as well.
I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.

When I try something like

% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

I get:

play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device

What might be causing this that I could look into?

   

%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server

However
artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
works fine as long as artsd is running

%ps -ax | grep arts
14333  p0  S  0:01.69 artsd
14343  p0  R+ 0:00.00 grep arts
If you have KDE installed, try:

%artsd &
%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.

Tim 

 

Tried that and I get the following:

Can't connect to sound server

:-(
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Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-02 Thread T Kellers
On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> Eric F Crist wrote:
> >On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
> >>Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
> >> all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
> >> beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
> >
> >I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
> > fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
> > worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
> > managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
> > sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
> > 5 years now.
> >
> >HTH
>
> Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
> only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
>
> 'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
> it as well.
>
> I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.
>
> When I try something like
>
> % play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>
> I get:
>
> play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
>
> What might be causing this that I could look into?
>

%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device


I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server

However
artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

works fine as long as artsd is running

%ps -ax | grep arts
14333  p0  S  0:01.69 artsd
14343  p0  R+ 0:00.00 grep arts


If you have KDE installed, try:

%artsd &
%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.

Tim 


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Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-02 Thread Trey Sizemore
Eric F Crist wrote:

On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
 

Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at all
or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard beeps
(^G's) if both are loaded.
   

I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works fine.  
Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually worry about 
the sound servers.  When you install one of the window managers, as long as 
you install the multimedia package, the correct sound server gets installed 
too.  This has been working for me for about 5 years now.

HTH

 

Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now 
only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.

'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows 
it as well.

I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.

When I try something like

% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

I get:

play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device

What might be causing this that I could look into?

Thanks.
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Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-02 Thread Eric F Crist
On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
> Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at all
> or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard beeps
> (^G's) if both are loaded.

I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works fine.  
Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually worry about 
the sound servers.  When you install one of the window managers, as long as 
you install the multimedia package, the correct sound server gets installed 
too.  This has been working for me for about 5 years now.

HTH

-- 
Eric F Crist
AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(612) 998-3588
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Re: Confused about sound servers

2004-01-02 Thread T Kellers
Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at all 
or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard beeps 
(^G's) if both are loaded.

Get rid of the device pcm and just load the modules.

KDE comes with artsd as it's sound server; some people love it, some people 
hate it and some people (like me) both love and hate it :)

Make sure you are loading the correct .ko file for your card, I'm not sure 
that snd_emu10k.ko is the correct one, but I could be wrong.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT



On Friday 02 January 2004 02:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> I run KDE, Gnome, and occasionally IceWM (although I haven't yet
> installed this on my FreeBSD machine).  Coming from a linux background,
> I'm a little confused about sound servers.  I have a SoundBlaster Live
> Value PCI card on my machine running 5.2-CURRENT.
>
> I have compiled my kernel with 'device PCM' and in my /boot/loader.conf
> I have put
>
> snd_pcm_load="YES"
> snd_emu10k1_load="YES"
>
> What sound server(s) is/are recommended to install.  I know that Gnome
> typically uses ess, and KDE can use arts.  Should both of these be
> installed to have sound in these environments?  How about others such as
> Xfce and IceWM?
>
> I want to enable system sounds as well as sound for XMMS and other
> programs.  The card is recognized and showing up in dmesg.
>
> I've read in another post that I don't need to run
>
> # sh MAKEDEV snd0
>
> in the /dev directory with FreeBSD 5.X series, is this true.
>
> Right now I have no sound.
>
> Thanks.
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