Re: Driver for Onstream ADR2.60 IDE
> > While we're on the subject - is there any good backup devices in the 60Gb > range for FreeBSD that have a similar cost as the OnStream drive (what was > it again, 300$? something like that?)? > IIRC, my big beef with the OnStream drive (besides the weird format the > driver used and slowness backing up/restoring) was the low quality and low > lifespan of the tapes. > I can pay around $500-$700 for a backup device, I've just never used a > tape device that wasn't a quad-head 400+ tape capacity IBM drive so I'm > not sure as to what would be good for general home backup use of around > 60GB a week or so. TIA You can get DLT and something called LTO (Linear Tape-Open) that can each handle up to 100 GigaByte native (uncompressed) and whatever you can get over that compressed - the common practice is to assume 2:1 compression. Both claim to be the most reliable tape formats out there. I don't know what vendors or drivers are available for LTO, but the claim is that it is the fastest data transfer format. If you can get it in a 'standard' SCSI setup, you can probably make it work on FreeBSD. The DLT comes in up to 100 GigaByte models too. I know that you can get DLT in SCSI and that it works on FreeBSD because we have some Dell machines with the 40 GB version of DLT running and we didn't have to do anything but install GENERIC FreeBSD. As for prices, the 40 GigaByte native versions of either fall in your range. The 100 GB versions are quite a bit higher. You can also get something called AIT with which we have had good luck, but the capacity is about half the DLT or LTO drives. Maybe they also have newer, migher capacity models now too. I haven't looked at them lately. Do Google searches for DLT, LTO and AIT and you will get lots of hits with everything from white papers to vendors. Unfortunately there isn't a lot about FreeBSD drivers in those piles of info. jerry > > ** > Jeremy D. Pavleck > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Peter Elsner wrote: > > > Short answer: No > > > > Long answer: No, because OnStream isn't using a standard ATAPI driver for > > their IDE drives. > > > > The make use of accessing the drive using very special commands in their > > proprietary backup > > software. Without the software the drive won't work. I have already > > contacted On Stream about > > this many times, (my boss insisted I get it working with FreeBSD), and to > > no avail, they will not > > help me unless I'm running Windows. > > > > Peter Elsner > > > > > > At 05:42 PM 8/28/2003 -0700, you wrote: > > >I have an Onstream ADR2.60 IDE backup drive that I would like to start using > > >with my FreeBSD 4.8 system. At startup I get a message via dmesg that there > > >is no driver for this device. 'kay. An hour of searching Google yielded > > >me no closer to a driver, so here I am > > > > > >Can I use this drive with my system or do I have to bag it? > > > > > >Peter > > > > > >___ > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > Peter Elsner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Vice President Of Customer Service (And System Administrator) > > 1835 S. Carrier Parkway > > Grand Prairie, Texas 75051 > > (972) 263-2080 - Voice > > (972) 263-2082 - Fax > > (972) 489-4838 - Cell Phone > > > > ___ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Driver for Onstream ADR2.60 IDE
Jeremy D. Pavleck wrote: While we're on the subject - is there any good backup devices in the 60Gb range for FreeBSD that have a similar cost as the OnStream drive (what was it again, 300$? something like that?)? Something like a DLT 7000 or 8000, if you have SCSI available? DLT does up to 35/70 GB or 40/80 GB per tape. I don't know tape backup products for IDE as well, but presumably you'd be looking at 4mm DDS or maybe Ultrium tape drives... -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Driver for Onstream ADR2.60 IDE
While we're on the subject - is there any good backup devices in the 60Gb range for FreeBSD that have a similar cost as the OnStream drive (what was it again, 300$? something like that?)? IIRC, my big beef with the OnStream drive (besides the weird format the driver used and slowness backing up/restoring) was the low quality and low lifespan of the tapes. I can pay around $500-$700 for a backup device, I've just never used a tape device that wasn't a quad-head 400+ tape capacity IBM drive so I'm not sure as to what would be good for general home backup use of around 60GB a week or so. TIA ** Jeremy D. Pavleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Peter Elsner wrote: > Short answer: No > > Long answer: No, because OnStream isn't using a standard ATAPI driver for > their IDE drives. > > The make use of accessing the drive using very special commands in their > proprietary backup > software. Without the software the drive won't work. I have already > contacted On Stream about > this many times, (my boss insisted I get it working with FreeBSD), and to > no avail, they will not > help me unless I'm running Windows. > > Peter Elsner > > > At 05:42 PM 8/28/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >I have an Onstream ADR2.60 IDE backup drive that I would like to start using > >with my FreeBSD 4.8 system. At startup I get a message via dmesg that there > >is no driver for this device. 'kay. An hour of searching Google yielded > >me no closer to a driver, so here I am > > > >Can I use this drive with my system or do I have to bag it? > > > >Peter > > > >___ > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > Peter Elsner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Vice President Of Customer Service (And System Administrator) > 1835 S. Carrier Parkway > Grand Prairie, Texas 75051 > (972) 263-2080 - Voice > (972) 263-2082 - Fax > (972) 489-4838 - Cell Phone > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Driver for Onstream ADR2.60 IDE
Short answer: No Long answer: No, because OnStream isn't using a standard ATAPI driver for their IDE drives. The make use of accessing the drive using very special commands in their proprietary backup software. Without the software the drive won't work. I have already contacted On Stream about this many times, (my boss insisted I get it working with FreeBSD), and to no avail, they will not help me unless I'm running Windows. Peter Elsner At 05:42 PM 8/28/2003 -0700, you wrote: I have an Onstream ADR2.60 IDE backup drive that I would like to start using with my FreeBSD 4.8 system. At startup I get a message via dmesg that there is no driver for this device. 'kay. An hour of searching Google yielded me no closer to a driver, so here I am Can I use this drive with my system or do I have to bag it? Peter ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Peter Elsner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vice President Of Customer Service (And System Administrator) 1835 S. Carrier Parkway Grand Prairie, Texas 75051 (972) 263-2080 - Voice (972) 263-2082 - Fax (972) 489-4838 - Cell Phone ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Driver for Onstream ADR2.60 IDE
Bag it. Onstream drives where a good idea, but the company as a whole blows. I have never found a *nix driver for the one I had. Not to mention, it took almost a year for a Windows 2000 driver to appear, and then it was buggy and slow. I dumped mine as soon as I could, it was next to useless for me as a backup device. Sorry I couldn't give you a good answer. ** Jeremy D. Pavleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Peter Bako wrote: > I have an Onstream ADR2.60 IDE backup drive that I would like to start using > with my FreeBSD 4.8 system. At startup I get a message via dmesg that there > is no driver for this device. 'kay. An hour of searching Google yielded > me no closer to a driver, so here I am > > Can I use this drive with my system or do I have to bag it? > > Peter > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
