Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-15 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 06:02:14PM +0400, Gaspar Chilingarov wrote:
> Please look on post in my blog
> 
> http://unixtipsandtricks.blogspot.com/
> 
> I've just created post with detailed instruction,
> how to setup automounter on FreeBSD to mount USB and CDROM devices.

Your setup will work fine for the CD-ROM. But it assumes that you will
only use one USB mass storage device at a time, and that all USB mass
storage devices are formatted with an msdosfs filesystem.

You should have a look at devd (in the base system) or hal
(/usr/ports/sysutils/hal) for mounting USB mass-storage devices.

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Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-15 Thread Gaspar Chilingarov

Please look on post in my blog

http://unixtipsandtricks.blogspot.com/

I've just created post with detailed instruction,
how to setup automounter on FreeBSD to mount USB and CDROM devices.

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Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-02 Thread dgmm
On Friday 02 February 2007 00:52, Chris Shenton wrote:
> I'm a longtime FreeBSD user but my S.O. just barely uses the machines
> -- Pine and Firefox mostly.  Doesn't even know she has a homedir or
> that there's a bunch of stuff in it.
>
> She now has a digital recorder with a 1GB CF card that interfaces to
> computers with a USB cable and she needs to get files off of.  She can
> plug it into USB OK but -- as her sysadm -- I have to mount it and
> copy the files off, then unmount.
>
> I'm looking for something like she'd get on a Mac or PC:
>
> 1. a way to automount the USB 'drive' when she plugs in
> 2. a visual filemanager or some other friendly way for her to see
>files and copy them off so she can mail them or whatnot.
> 3. a way to safely unmount the USB device when she's done
>
> I'm starting to play with the user-priv mounting, then will look at
> telling usbd to mount the drive when it sees it... Is this is the
> right technical solution?
>
> I've got no idea about friendly GUI/filemanager with drag-n-drop or
> other easy way to get files off.  She's using simple olde FVWM2 now
> and I'd prefer not to load up a massive GUI like KDE or Gnome.  I just
> don't know what's out there, being a command line dinosuar myself.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks.

Not specifically what you are asking for but you might consider a shell script 
behind a desktop/menu icon to mount the device, sync the files with a 
directory on the HDD and then unmount it.  That way she doesn;t have to worry 
about pulling it while it's mounted amd can work in the "safe" environment of 
the HDD.

Something like:
(cobbled up from a couple of scripts I use, could use more error trapping)

#find and mount device
camcontrol devlist | grep USB2.0\ \(FS\)\ FLASH\ DISK\ 1.00 > /dev/null 2>&1
if [ "$?" -eq "0" ]; then
  dev=`camcontrol devlist | grep USB2.0\ \(FS\)\ FLASH\ DISK\ 1.00 | 
grep -o 'da[0-9][0-9]*'`
  if [ `df | grep $dev | grep -o 'da[0-9][0-9]*'` ]; then
echo MP3Player already mounted
  else
mount_msdosfs /dev/${dev} /home/dave/mp3player ;
echo Mounted MP3Player to ~/mp3player as /dev/${dev}
  fi
else
  echo MP3Player not plugged in
fi

#sync directory with device
rsync -rv --ignore-existing --delete /home1/audiobooks/0mp3/ ~/mp3player

#unmount device
if [ `df | grep mp3player | grep -o 'da[0-9][0-9]*'` ]; then
  umount ~/mp3player ; i=1 ;
  echo MP3Player safely un-mounted
fi


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Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-02 Thread Dave
On Friday 02 February 2007 00:52, Chris Shenton wrote:
> I'm a longtime FreeBSD user but my S.O. just barely uses the machines
> -- Pine and Firefox mostly.  Doesn't even know she has a homedir or
> that there's a bunch of stuff in it.
>
> She now has a digital recorder with a 1GB CF card that interfaces to
> computers with a USB cable and she needs to get files off of.  She can
> plug it into USB OK but -- as her sysadm -- I have to mount it and
> copy the files off, then unmount.
>
> I'm looking for something like she'd get on a Mac or PC:
>
> 1. a way to automount the USB 'drive' when she plugs in
> 2. a visual filemanager or some other friendly way for her to see
>files and copy them off so she can mail them or whatnot.
> 3. a way to safely unmount the USB device when she's done
>
> I'm starting to play with the user-priv mounting, then will look at
> telling usbd to mount the drive when it sees it... Is this is the
> right technical solution?
>
> I've got no idea about friendly GUI/filemanager with drag-n-drop or
> other easy way to get files off.  She's using simple olde FVWM2 now
> and I'd prefer not to load up a massive GUI like KDE or Gnome.  I just
> don't know what's out there, being a command line dinosuar myself.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks.

Not specifically what you are asking for but you might consider a shell script 
behind a desktop/menu icon to mount the device, sync the files with a 
directory on the HDD and then unmount it.  That way she doesn;t have to worry 
about pulling it while it's mounted amd can work in the "safe" environment of 
the HDD.

Something like:
(cobbled up from a couple of scripts I use, could use more error trapping)

#find and mount device
camcontrol devlist | grep USB2.0\ \(FS\)\ FLASH\ DISK\ 1.00 > /dev/null 2>&1
if [ "$?" -eq "0" ]; then
  dev=`camcontrol devlist | grep USB2.0\ \(FS\)\ FLASH\ DISK\ 1.00 | 
grep -o 'da[0-9][0-9]*'`
  if [ `df | grep $dev | grep -o 'da[0-9][0-9]*'` ]; then
echo MP3Player already mounted
  else
mount_msdosfs /dev/${dev} /home/dave/mp3player ;
echo Mounted MP3Player to ~/mp3player as /dev/${dev}
  fi
else
  echo MP3Player not plugged in
fi

#sync directory with device
rsync -rv --ignore-existing --delete /home1/audiobooks/0mp3/ ~/mp3player

#unmount device
if [ `df | grep mp3player | grep -o 'da[0-9][0-9]*'` ]; then
  umount ~/mp3player ; i=1 ;
  echo MP3Player safely un-mounted
fi

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Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-01 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jason Morgan wrote:

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:29:39PM -0500, Rod Person wrote:

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:52:27 -0500
Chris Shenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm looking for something like she'd get on a Mac or PC:

1. a way to automount the USB 'drive' when she plugs in
2. a visual filemanager or some other friendly way for her to see
   files and copy them off so she can mail them or whatnot.
3. a way to safely unmount the USB device when she's done   


I've got no idea about friendly GUI/filemanager with drag-n-drop or
other easy way to get files off.  She's using simple olde FVWM2 now
and I'd prefer not to load up a massive GUI like KDE or Gnome.  I just
don't know what's out there, being a command line dinosuar myself.

Any recommendations?  


Thunar. I just started using this it's part of XFCE4, but you can
install it separately, I use it with fluxbox. It uses hal-d but it very
light.


My wife (non-techie) and I use Thunar in XFCE4.4. Thunar comes
installed by default with XFCE4.4, I believe. It is plenty fast and
doesn't require all the Gnome and KDE bloat. XFCE4 is also newbie
friendly and fast enough for my purposes.

Cheers,

Jason


Anything that uses HALd will work with automounting drives out of the 
box if you set it up properly.

-Garrett
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Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-01 Thread Jason Morgan
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:29:39PM -0500, Rod Person wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:52:27 -0500
> Chris Shenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I'm looking for something like she'd get on a Mac or PC:
> > 
> > 1. a way to automount the USB 'drive' when she plugs in
> > 2. a visual filemanager or some other friendly way for her to see
> >files and copy them off so she can mail them or whatnot.
> > 3. a way to safely unmount the USB device when she's done   
> > 
> 
> > 
> > I've got no idea about friendly GUI/filemanager with drag-n-drop or
> > other easy way to get files off.  She's using simple olde FVWM2 now
> > and I'd prefer not to load up a massive GUI like KDE or Gnome.  I just
> > don't know what's out there, being a command line dinosuar myself.
> > 
> > Any recommendations?  
> 
> 
> Thunar. I just started using this it's part of XFCE4, but you can
> install it separately, I use it with fluxbox. It uses hal-d but it very
> light.

My wife (non-techie) and I use Thunar in XFCE4.4. Thunar comes
installed by default with XFCE4.4, I believe. It is plenty fast and
doesn't require all the Gnome and KDE bloat. XFCE4 is also newbie
friendly and fast enough for my purposes.

Cheers,

Jason
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Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-01 Thread Rod Person
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:52:27 -0500
Chris Shenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I'm looking for something like she'd get on a Mac or PC:
> 
> 1. a way to automount the USB 'drive' when she plugs in
> 2. a visual filemanager or some other friendly way for her to see
>files and copy them off so she can mail them or whatnot.
> 3. a way to safely unmount the USB device when she's done   
> 

> 
> I've got no idea about friendly GUI/filemanager with drag-n-drop or
> other easy way to get files off.  She's using simple olde FVWM2 now
> and I'd prefer not to load up a massive GUI like KDE or Gnome.  I just
> don't know what's out there, being a command line dinosuar myself.
> 
> Any recommendations?  


Thunar. I just started using this it's part of XFCE4, but you can
install it separately, I use it with fluxbox. It uses hal-d but it very
light.

-- 

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Re: Easy USB-drive automounter and "filemanager" for nontechies?

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Holden

Chris Shenton wrote:

I'm a longtime FreeBSD user but my S.O. just barely uses the machines
-- Pine and Firefox mostly.  Doesn't even know she has a homedir or
that there's a bunch of stuff in it.

She now has a digital recorder with a 1GB CF card that interfaces to
computers with a USB cable and she needs to get files off of.  She can
plug it into USB OK but -- as her sysadm -- I have to mount it and
copy the files off, then unmount. 


I'm looking for something like she'd get on a Mac or PC:

1. a way to automount the USB 'drive' when she plugs in
2. a visual filemanager or some other friendly way for her to see
   files and copy them off so she can mail them or whatnot.
3. a way to safely unmount the USB device when she's done   


I'm starting to play with the user-priv mounting, then will look at
telling usbd to mount the drive when it sees it... Is this is the
right technical solution?

I've got no idea about friendly GUI/filemanager with drag-n-drop or
other easy way to get files off.  She's using simple olde FVWM2 now
and I'd prefer not to load up a massive GUI like KDE or Gnome.  I just
don't know what's out there, being a command line dinosuar myself.

Any recommendations?  


Thanks.
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IIRC, you can have usbd execute $stuff, i'm not sure to the extent of 
how useful it is however.

Sorry i'm not much help

Thanks,
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