Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
yeah, i conquer. I tried to start beryl in .xinitrc just like some window manager (e.g. fluxbox), all I got is some background and no further action. so I guess its good to couple beryl to something else. Can anyone suggest some desktop manager that is not so bloated? thank you!! TFC On 6/19/07, Khairil Yusof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 12:03 -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > hi, > i have a silly question about beryl/compiz.. what is the > relationship between beryl and say, gnome?? > thanks Beryl/Compiz are window managers. They control position, size, minimised, maximised, virtual desktops etc. Window managers are one part of the Gnome Desktop, which includes other parts like the file manager (which manages the folders on your desktop), the control panel, basic applications like gedit etc. Currently the default window manager is Metacity which is 2D, by using Beryl/Compiz you are replacing this part. Hope this answers your question. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 12:03 -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > hi, > i have a silly question about beryl/compiz.. what is the > relationship between beryl and say, gnome?? > thanks Beryl/Compiz are window managers. They control position, size, minimised, maximised, virtual desktops etc. Window managers are one part of the Gnome Desktop, which includes other parts like the file manager (which manages the folders on your desktop), the control panel, basic applications like gedit etc. Currently the default window manager is Metacity which is 2D, by using Beryl/Compiz you are replacing this part. Hope this answers your question. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/19/07, Tore Lund wrote: Uh, correct me if I am wrong. I have not tried Beryl myself. However, as I understand it, Beryl would work, as a window manager. Not everyone needs or wants a "desktop". Yes, you could. X will do whatever it's told. I once found it amusing to run tkdesk as my "window manager", for example. But it's really not something I would advise to someone not experienced in running X without a desktop environment. Since beryl doesn't even provide a menu to launch apps, nor does it default to starting a term window, an inexperienced user probably would find themselves quickly lost. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGeGW1NTm8fWdRgmIRAomBAJ4r7Bo5eB7sS15440ysJ+IttvqIQgCg6/yR BR/pcTqlwQ0RJLw/jloc89s= =52nA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
Andy Harrison wrote: > Probably, but beryl would not work. metacity and beryl are just > window managers, they do not provide the rest of the desktop > environment. Uh, correct me if I am wrong. I have not tried Beryl myself. However, as I understand it, Beryl would work, as a window manager. Not everyone needs or wants a "desktop". -- Tore ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: so are there any alternatives I can choose besides gnome?? just feel that gnome/kde is bloated, xfce4?? thanks!! TFC On 6/19/07, Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Answer: Yes. Question: Is top posting bad? On 6/19/07, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > then can I install beryl without gnome?? > > TFC Probably, but beryl would not work. metacity and beryl are just window managers, they do not provide the rest of the desktop environment. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGeDJNNTm8fWdRgmIRAmp+AJ9pZbbjv5+3b/fzY0TYUBbOMXAB+QCfVDnl Paq4sALeW0Kc8dgjauPCew8= =7CKB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Yes -- there's nothing wrong with using XFCE4.4 -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
so are there any alternatives I can choose besides gnome?? just feel that gnome/kde is bloated, xfce4?? thanks!! TFC On 6/19/07, Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Answer: Yes. Question: Is top posting bad? On 6/19/07, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > then can I install beryl without gnome?? > > TFC Probably, but beryl would not work. metacity and beryl are just window managers, they do not provide the rest of the desktop environment. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGeDJNNTm8fWdRgmIRAmp+AJ9pZbbjv5+3b/fzY0TYUBbOMXAB+QCfVDnl Paq4sALeW0Kc8dgjauPCew8= =7CKB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Answer: Yes. Question: Is top posting bad? On 6/19/07, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: then can I install beryl without gnome?? TFC Probably, but beryl would not work. metacity and beryl are just window managers, they do not provide the rest of the desktop environment. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGeDJNNTm8fWdRgmIRAmp+AJ9pZbbjv5+3b/fzY0TYUBbOMXAB+QCfVDnl Paq4sALeW0Kc8dgjauPCew8= =7CKB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
then can I install beryl without gnome?? TFC On 6/19/07, Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/19/07, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > hi, > i have a silly question about beryl/compiz.. what is the relationship > between beryl and say, gnome?? > thanks > > TFC > In a gnome environment, beryl is a replacement for metacity, the default gnome window manager. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGeC0wNTm8fWdRgmIRAkRNAKC7PFRJE77VaNCZuIBItzV0m5TT1gCgk92i SolAnwqLO05jcYEB1vr8QnE= =n0Za -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/19/07, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: hi, i have a silly question about beryl/compiz.. what is the relationship between beryl and say, gnome?? thanks TFC In a gnome environment, beryl is a replacement for metacity, the default gnome window manager. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGeC0wNTm8fWdRgmIRAkRNAKC7PFRJE77VaNCZuIBItzV0m5TT1gCgk92i SolAnwqLO05jcYEB1vr8QnE= =n0Za -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
hi, i have a silly question about beryl/compiz.. what is the relationship between beryl and say, gnome?? thanks TFC On 6/19/07, Khairil Yusof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 20:17 -0300, Jason Hills wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to try adding a 3D Desktop feel to my laptop, but I am > new to this thing, and was not able to find how to install xgl or > aiglx. I installed Beryl and it complains about not finding AIGLX > display. http://www.iosn.net/Members/kaeru/articles/freebsd/compiz-on-freebsd This should help, it's for Compiz, but the AIGLX settings for xorg.conf will work for Beryl too. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to " [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 20:17 -0300, Jason Hills wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to try adding a 3D Desktop feel to my laptop, but I am > new to this thing, and was not able to find how to install xgl or > aiglx. I installed Beryl and it complains about not finding AIGLX > display. http://www.iosn.net/Members/kaeru/articles/freebsd/compiz-on-freebsd This should help, it's for Compiz, but the AIGLX settings for xorg.conf will work for Beryl too. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/18/07, Jason Hills wrote: Hello, I would like to try adding a 3D Desktop feel to my laptop, but I am new to this thing, and was not able to find how to install xgl or aiglx. I installed Beryl and it complains about not finding AIGLX display. How should I start? What will I need to have installed and running, and how to do proper testings when/if things go wrong? I appreciate your help. I found some tutorials, say, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/FreeBSD, but it seems, to me at least, that it is not an up-to-date resource. Any directions will help. I haven't done it on FreeBSD yet, but I've done it on a couple Linux distros. Aside from the glx module already suggestion, you may also need to load the dri and vbe modules. This option in your Device section is also important. Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" If you're running an nvidia card, you also need to make sure you have the latest development drivers for your card. I'm running 1.0.9755 on my machine, but I believe I had aixgl working on the 1.0.9746 version that's in the ports collection. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGd9y1NTm8fWdRgmIRAt3XAKDi0J/d1dejk3DI74Ch+k0opbGpyQCdGKYR e2vNMWVsUYP+nfnO7HC+azQ= =dj/F -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 3D Desktop (XGL/AIGLX/...) how to start?
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Jason Hills wrote: Hello, I would like to try adding a 3D Desktop feel to my laptop, but I am new to this thing, and was not able to find how to install xgl or aiglx. I installed Beryl and it complains about not finding AIGLX display. How should I start? What will I need to have installed and running, and how to do proper testings when/if things go wrong? I appreciate your help. I found some tutorials, say, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/FreeBSD, but it seems, to me at least, that it is not an up-to-date resource. Any directions will help. I don't know if this is the same thing or not. I had a problem when starting Blender. It complained about not finding GLX. Upon discovering the driver was commented out in my X11 configuration file, I uncommented it, restarted X11 and BINGO! Just do a search in /etc/X11/xorg.conf with 'glx' all lower case and you should find this section: # This loads the GLX module Load "glx" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
