Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:46:15PM +0200, David DEMELIER wrote: Yes probably, but for now I can play urban terror as well. Which features are missing ? -- Demelier David First, it's shaders support. I've used to play toribash a lot, and it requires OpenGL 1.3 which mesa does support, but it could not use cell-shading and graphics were not-too-good. Second, i do not know what feature does it require, but i'm a pretty-long-time dwarf fortress player, and with ATI i can not play graphics version (where graphics are just .bpm tiles) stonesence does not even run with wine. (whell.. ascii rocks, but i like watching what have i created in 3d-version :)) Third, i used to play wurm online, that does not require high-end graphics, but is unplayeble (e.g. it doesn't even run with ATI). And, of course, missing s3tc support that disallows playing some newer commercial games. But don't take me wrong, i like ATI, and the only feature that i really miss and because of which i use now nvidia-graphics card -- vdpau, while waiting for stabilization of mplayer-mt patches (e.g. on some of video-files it crashes) -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:41:33AM +1200, Jonathan Chen wrote: I agree. There's a wiki entry detailing the process: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine#head-6963d527c173e57b1567e881305b544d33435b6d There are a few problems with the network interfaces on the 32-64 bit bridge; which will intefere with some network related games (eg: EVE Online), but on the whole the experience is very positive. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- If everything's under control, you're going too slow - Mario Andretti As for me, the worst thing with wine on amd64 is that wineserver is using 100% cpu all the time and so it is kind of slowier than wine on i386. The only game i play for now is dwarf fortress, it is really cpu-using game, and on my pretty-old laptop with i386 and 2.2GHz cpu it runs little faster than on amd64 3.0GHz machine. Btw, does that wineserver behavior reproduce for anyone? -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0700, Joe's Morgue wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. ? You are not reading the manual correctly. Then *entire* manual is the game. :-) Where is that upvote button when you need it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0700, Joe's Morgue wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. ? You are not reading the manual correctly. Then *entire* manual is the game. :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Joe's Morgue joes_mor...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. Are there drivers for higher end graphic cards available? nvidia provides a binary blob of their Unix driver for FreeBSD: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-4365.html Regarding games in particular - it really depends on which game you are looking to play, and what it's requirements are. I have played HalfLife2 via wine emulation on FreeBSD using the nvidia driver for example. HTH -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, pete wright nomadlo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Joe's Morgue joes_mor...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. Are there drivers for higher end graphic cards available? nvidia provides a binary blob of their Unix driver for FreeBSD: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-4365.html arg! wrong URL! http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd-195.36.24.html -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0700, Joe's Morgue wrote: Are there drivers for higher end graphic cards available? If it is nvidia: yes, proprietary and pretty good. If it is ATI, only opensource xf86-video-ati, that are better than fglrx for work, not for games (e.g. less features, but more stability and less bugs). -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
Hi, I lolled on the comment from David Kelly :D. By the way some time in the past I managed to use Counter-Stike 1.6 on wine with approx 20fps, and without sound :). On linux there is cedega, but cedega won't be ported to FreeBSD there was an old abandoned project to do it, but it died ;\. Your best bet is wine, but don't expect sky high fps rates, and fireworks, FreeBSD is not for gaming...ATM :D. Regards, MB. On 29 April 2010 19:58, pete wright nomadlo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, pete wright nomadlo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Joe's Morgue joes_mor...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. Are there drivers for higher end graphic cards available? nvidia provides a binary blob of their Unix driver for FreeBSD: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-4365.html arg! wrong URL! http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd-195.36.24.html -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Apr 29 2010 12:54, David Kelly wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0700, Joe's Morgue wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. ? You are not reading the manual correctly. Then *entire* manual is the game. :-) -- You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 08:16:27PM +0200, Balázs Mátéffy wrote: On linux there is cedega, but cedega won't be ported to FreeBSD there was an old abandoned project to do it, but it died ;\. Cedega is just polished wine with changed default settings for some games. E.g. it's based on wine codebase + user-solutions from appdb.winehq.org and nothing more, as i know. Your best bet is wine, but don't expect sky high fps rates, and fireworks, FreeBSD is not for gaming...ATM :D. It is, but not for all the games. On my machine, with nvidia, i've played wc3, wow, hitman, savage2, mount blade and some other games smoothly with pretty high fps. Don't know if fps of that games on windows was higher. I've played on my nvidia workstation (8400gs) Actually, the only tricky thing about games - installing wine on amd64, everything other works just as good as it does in linux. Regards, MB. -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:39:58PM +0200, David DEMELIER wrote: I don't agree, if compile mesa, gl, and ati with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU defined you will be able to play various games using real hardware acceleration ;-) -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle ___ -- Demelier David Well, i didn't say that you can't. mesa 7.6 rocks, but it still lacks some 3d-features that fglrx has. -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
Some games run natively on FreeBSD with no emulation. For example Urban Terror is a first person shooter that fits this category, and it's very popular. /usr/ports/games/iourbanterror and it requires hardware 3D acceleration (nVidia drivers would work well). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
2010/4/29 Mikle Krutov nekoexmach...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0700, Joe's Morgue wrote: Are there drivers for higher end graphic cards available? If it is nvidia: yes, proprietary and pretty good. If it is ATI, only opensource xf86-video-ati, that are better than fglrx for work, not for games (e.g. less features, but more stability and less bugs). I don't agree, if compile mesa, gl, and ati with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU defined you will be able to play various games using real hardware acceleration ;-) -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Demelier David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:54:34PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0700, Joe's Morgue wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. ? You are not reading the manual correctly. Then *entire* manual is the game. :-) man, you got THAT rt! -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:20:28PM +0400, Mikle Krutov wrote: [...] I've played on my nvidia workstation (8400gs) Actually, the only tricky thing about games - installing wine on amd64, everything other works just as good as it does in linux. I agree. There's a wiki entry detailing the process: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine#head-6963d527c173e57b1567e881305b544d33435b6d There are a few problems with the network interfaces on the 32-64 bit bridge; which will intefere with some network related games (eg: EVE Online), but on the whole the experience is very positive. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- If everything's under control, you're going too slow - Mario Andretti ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GAMING
I Remember I was on 5.3 and installed ut2004 successfully from dvd. worked and ran extremely fast. There was some howto on the web for doing it but I can't find it on google anymore. On 11/6/05, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/6/05, Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey is there any port of the full game? Not in the ports tree and not that I know of. I'm sure it's not a problem to run it. Copy protection will be an obstacle, but if you own the game you'll be fully justified in searching for a crack and cracking it. -- Antoine W. Solomon Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it felt much cooler :-) Please give me a link to UT2004 howto. i tried to find it but without success. Stepan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
On 11/6/05, Stepan Rakhimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it felt much cooler :-) Please give me a link to UT2004 howto. i tried to find it but without success. Stepan http://www.freshports.org/games/linux-ut2004-demo/ Я не пробовал полную версию, но раз эта идёт, думаю, и с полной проблем не будет. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
2005/11/6, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/6/05, Stepan Rakhimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it felt much cooler :-) Please give me a link to UT2004 howto. i tried to find it but without success. Stepan http://www.freshports.org/games/linux-ut2004-demo/ Я не пробовал полную версию, но раз эта идёт, думаю, и с полной проблем не будет. Спасибо друзя! -- Димитър Василев Dimitar Vassilev GnuPG key ID: 0x4B8DB525 Keyserver: pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint: D88A 3B92 DED5 917E 341E D62F 8C51 5FC4 4B8D B525 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
Hey is there any port of the full game? On 11/6/05, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/6/05, Stepan Rakhimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it felt much cooler :-) Please give me a link to UT2004 howto. i tried to find it but without success. Stepan http://www.freshports.org/games/linux-ut2004-demo/ Я не пробовал полную версию, но раз эта идёт, думаю, и с полной проблем не будет. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Antoine W. Solomon Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
On 11/6/05, Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey is there any port of the full game? Not in the ports tree and not that I know of. I'm sure it's not a problem to run it. Copy protection will be an obstacle, but if you own the game you'll be fully justified in searching for a crack and cracking it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
On 11/7/05, Alex de Kruijff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 04:39:53PM +, Antoine Solomon wrote: On 11/6/05, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/6/05, Stepan Rakhimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it felt much cooler :-) Please give me a link to UT2004 howto. i tried to find it but without success. Hey is there any port of the full game? Dear Stepan, Am I wride in that you don't know much about the FreeBSD ports system? Its a system where someone else has insured that the installation of a thirth party software goes smoothly. This is how you can find ports and install them cd /usr/ports make search name=UT2004 (use 'key' if you don't know the name) This gives me: Port: linux-ut2004-demo-3334 Path: /usr/ports/games/linux-ut2004-demo Info: Unreal Tournament 2004 demo Maint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] B-deps: R-deps: linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_3 linux-expat-1.95.5_3 linux-fontconfig-2.2.3 linux_base-8-8.0_7 linux_dri-4.4.0 WWW:http://www.unrealtournament.com/ut2004/ cd /usr/ports/games/linux-ut2004-demo make clean make install make clean Now its installed. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. Howto's based on my ppersonal use, including information about setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ Somebody seems to should have slept more, doesn't he? :-) As it is obvious from the port's name, games/linux-ut2004-demo is not a full game, but only a demo. Thanks for your insight, anyway. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
rick wrote: how is freebsd for gaming needs ive used linux and windows for years.??? thanks rick ___ If you used linux, you should not have a problem. Video card drivers would be your limiting point, I would suggest you use nvidia because of it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
On 11/5/05, jason henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rick wrote: how is freebsd for gaming needs ive used linux and windows for years.??? If you used linux, you should not have a problem. Video card drivers would be your limiting point, I would suggest you use nvidia because of it. Well, to be fair, there are problems with linux games on FreeBSD. But they are generally easily resolved. *BSD is still a few years (months?) off from entering the desktop (and gaming) market, but it will, and when it does, all its strengths will shine. Commercially speaking, if you want to see (preview) the future now, learn FreeBSD, use it, love it. Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it felt much cooler :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GAMING
rick wrote: how is freebsd for gaming needs ive used linux and windows for years.??? Andrew wrote: *BSD is still a few years (months?) off from entering the desktop (and gaming) market, but it will, and when it does, all its strengths will shine. Commercially speaking, if you want to see (preview) the future now, learn FreeBSD, use it, love it. Wow, it's cool to hear someone say that! I really hope it is a serious player in the desktop and especially gaming market soon. Absolutely the _only_ thing i use Windows for is computer games. In every other area of the desktop (server goes without saying) I've found a better tool for the job on FreeBSD. My main desktop now is my Sony Vaio running FreeBSD 5.4. Game developers need to start making everything for OpenGLout of the box. Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it felt much cooler :-) Nice, it definitely would feel cooler! With all that in mind, i might focus on switching over the last dregs of Windows, and doing my gaming on FreeBSD. New project! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
