Re: Garbled text in xterm

2007-07-16 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:42:22 -0500
Michael Gass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 03:06:47AM +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:15:03 -0500
> > Michael Gass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hmm.  I've never heard of any symptoms quite like this.
> > > > A few stabs in the dark:
> > > > What happened if you used no xorg.conf at all?  Did you get the
> > > > same xterm problem?
> > > 
> > > >  Do you have a locale set?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the response.
> > > 1. If I try to running with no xorg.conf, it just hangs. I think
> > > the equipment is too old for the defaults.
> > > 2. My locale is set to "C"
> > > 3. If I set the DefaultDepth to 1 in Screen, then it works - but
> > > of course there is no color.  If I set the DefaultDepth to either
> > > 4 or 8, then I get the garbled text again.  I do not think it is
> > > the keyboard, as the garbled text happens right at the prompt,
> > > and when I do type, it garbles, but the correct thing happens.
> > > For instance, if I type "xterm" then the charactors are messed
> > > up, but an xterm comes up (again with garbled text).
> > > 4. I tried having X construct a configure file for me (Xorg
> > > -configure), but same problem.
> > 
> > Hello Michael,
> > 
> > What happens if you add
> > 
> >   Option  "XaaNoScanlineImageWriteRect" "true"
> >   Option  "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill" "true"
> > 
> > to the Screen section (try Device too)?
> > 
> > Try also:
> > 
> >   Option  "Accel" "false"
> > 
> > Nikola Lečić
> 
> Nikola,
> 
> Thank you for the response.
> This did not work, but it gives me the idea to try similar
> options.  If you have any other advice, please let me know.

Me personally not very much besides Xaa* options (which could be
deductible to my eyes from your xorg conf/log), but others probably do
have.

However, it remains a bit unclear what those garbled characters
exactly look like. Is the text garbled in xterm only? Or in windows
decoration (you mentioned twm) as well? So:

(1) It could be very useful if you could provide a snapshot;

(2) You may try xfontsel(1) as a useful previewer of the fonts in use;

(3) Try 'xterm -font ', list them with xlsfonts(1);

(4) Try to start a new thread on freebsd-x11@ named "Garbled text with
colour depth > 1 on older vga" -- or something like this -- this
seems to be a crucial part;

(5) Try asking even on X.org;

(6) Whatever you do, please send a feedback here since this is a very
interesting issue. :)

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Garbled text in xterm

2007-07-15 Thread Michael Gass
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 03:06:47AM +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:15:03 -0500
> Michael Gass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > 
> > > Hmm.  I've never heard of any symptoms quite like this.
> > > A few stabs in the dark:
> > > What happened if you used no xorg.conf at all?  Did you get the same
> > >xterm problem?
> > 
> > >  Do you have a locale set?
> > 
> > Thanks for the response.
> > 1. If I try to running with no xorg.conf, it just hangs. I think the
> > equipment is too old for the defaults.
> > 2. My locale is set to "C"
> > 3. If I set the DefaultDepth to 1 in Screen, then it works - but of
> > course there is no color.  If I set the DefaultDepth to either 4 or 8,
> > then I get the garbled text again.  I do not think it is the keyboard,
> > as the garbled text happens right at the prompt, and when I do type,
> > it garbles, but the correct thing happens.  For instance, if I type
> > "xterm" then the charactors are messed up, but an xterm comes up
> > (again with garbled text).
> > 4. I tried having X construct a configure file for me (Xorg
> > -configure), but same problem.
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> What happens if you add
> 
>   Option  "XaaNoScanlineImageWriteRect" "true"
>   Option  "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill" "true"
> 
> to the Screen section (try Device too)?
> 
> Try also:
> 
>   Option  "Accel" "false"
> 
> Nikola Lečić

Nikola,

Thank you for the response.
This did not work, but it gives me the idea to try similar
options.  If you have any other advice, please let me know.

Mike Gass
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Re: Garbled text in xterm

2007-07-15 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:15:03 -0500
Michael Gass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> 
> > Hmm.  I've never heard of any symptoms quite like this.
> > A few stabs in the dark:
> > What happened if you used no xorg.conf at all?  Did you get the same
> >xterm problem?
> 
> >  Do you have a locale set?
> 
> Thanks for the response.
> 1. If I try to running with no xorg.conf, it just hangs. I think the
> equipment is too old for the defaults.
> 2. My locale is set to "C"
> 3. If I set the DefaultDepth to 1 in Screen, then it works - but of
> course there is no color.  If I set the DefaultDepth to either 4 or 8,
> then I get the garbled text again.  I do not think it is the keyboard,
> as the garbled text happens right at the prompt, and when I do type,
> it garbles, but the correct thing happens.  For instance, if I type
> "xterm" then the charactors are messed up, but an xterm comes up
> (again with garbled text).
> 4. I tried having X construct a configure file for me (Xorg
> -configure), but same problem.

Hello Michael,

What happens if you add

  Option  "XaaNoScanlineImageWriteRect" "true"
  Option  "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill" "true"

to the Screen section (try Device too)?

Try also:

  Option  "Accel" "false"

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Garbled text in xterm

2007-07-15 Thread Michael Gass

Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> Hmm.  I've never heard of any symptoms quite like this.
> A few stabs in the dark:
> What happened if you used no xorg.conf at all?  Did you get the same
>xterm problem?

>  Do you have a locale set?

Thanks for the response.
1. If I try to running with no xorg.conf, it just hangs. I think the
equipment is too old for the defaults.
2. My locale is set to "C"
3. If I set the DefaultDepth to 1 in Screen, then it works - but of
course there is no color.  If I set the DefaultDepth to either 4 or 8,
then I get the garbled text again.  I do not think it is the keyboard,
as the garbled text happens right at the prompt, and when I do type, it
garbles, but the correct thing happens.  For instance, if I type "xterm"
then the charactors are messed up, but an xterm comes up (again with
garbled text).
4. I tried having X construct a configure file for me (Xorg -configure),
but same problem.

What do you think?

Mike Gass

> On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 10:10:38AM -0500, Michael Gass wrote:
> > 
> > Just installed Xorg 7.2 on an old 486DX cpu machine (Compaq ProLinea)
> > running FreeBSD (Just to do it!).   Only an old vga card.
> > 
> > I can run the server and startx brings up twm, but I have garbled text
> > in the xterm; that is, the wrong letters and symbols come up when xterm
> > opens and when I type (text in the menubar is OK).  I have made many 
> > alterations to xorg.conf and checked a number of faqs, but have found 
> > nothing that corrects the problem.  I am out of ideas.
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to what the problem is and what I might try?
> > 
> > Below are my current xorg.conf and a recent log file.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mike Gass
> > 
> > -xorg.conf---
> > 
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> > Identifier "Layout0"
> > Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> > InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Files"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Module"
> > Load  "freetype"
> > # Load "xtt"
> > Load  "extmod"
> > # Load  "dri"
> > Load  "glx"
> > Load  "dbe"
> > Load  "record"
> > Load  "xtrap"
> > Load  "type1"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Mouse0"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option  "Protocol" "Auto"
> > Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> > Driver  "kbd"
> > Option  "XkbModel" "pc104"
> > Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Monitor"
> > Identifier   "Monitor0"
> >  ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC:
> > HorizSync31.5 - 57.0
> > VertRefresh  50.0 - 90.0
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier  "Card0"
> > Driver  "vga"
> > Card"* Generic VGA compatible"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Card0"
> > Monitor"Monitor0"
> > DefaultDepth 4
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 4
> > Modes"1024x768" "800x600"
> > EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> > 
> > -Xorg.0.log
> > 
> > _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
> > _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/prolin.home.net:0
> > _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6
> > 
> > X Window System Version 7.2.0
> > Release Date: 22 January 2007
> > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
> > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE i386 
> > Current Operating System: FreeBSD prolin.home.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 
> > 6.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Jun 26 17:36:41 CDT 2007 [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PROLIN070626 i386
> > Build Date: 11 June 2007
> > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
> > to make sure that you have the latest version.
> > Module Loader present
> > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Jul 12 10:43:19 2007
> > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> > (==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
> > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
> > (**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
> > (**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
> > (==) FontPath set to:
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
> > (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
> > (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
> > (II) L

Re: Garbled text in xterm

2007-07-15 Thread Michael Gass
Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> Hmm.  I've never heard of any symptoms quite like this.
> A few stabs in the dark:
> What happened if you used no xorg.conf at all?  Did you get the same
>xterm problem?

>  Do you have a locale set?

Thanks for the response.
1. If I try to running with no xorg.conf, it just hangs. I think the
equipment is too old for the defaults.
2. My locale is set to "C"
3. If I set the DefaultDepth to 1 in Screen, then it works - but of
course there is no color.  If I set the DefaultDepth to either 4 or 8,
then I get the garbled text again.  I do not think it is the keyboard,
as the garbled text happens right at the prompt, and when I do type, it
garbles, but the correct thing happens.  For instance, if I type "xterm"
then the charactors are messed up, but an xterm comes up (again with
garbled text).
4. I tried having X construct a configure file for me (Xorg -configure),
but same problem.

What do you think?

Mike Gass

> On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 10:10:38AM -0500, Michael Gass wrote:
> > 
> > Just installed Xorg 7.2 on an old 486DX cpu machine (Compaq ProLinea)
> > running FreeBSD (Just to do it!).   Only an old vga card.
> > 
> > I can run the server and startx brings up twm, but I have garbled text
> > in the xterm; that is, the wrong letters and symbols come up when xterm
> > opens and when I type (text in the menubar is OK).  I have made many 
> > alterations to xorg.conf and checked a number of faqs, but have found 
> > nothing that corrects the problem.  I am out of ideas.
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to what the problem is and what I might try?
> > 
> > Below are my current xorg.conf and a recent log file.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mike Gass
> > 
> > -xorg.conf---
> > 
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> > Identifier "Layout0"
> > Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> > InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Files"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Module"
> > Load  "freetype"
> > # Load "xtt"
> > Load  "extmod"
> > # Load  "dri"
> > Load  "glx"
> > Load  "dbe"
> > Load  "record"
> > Load  "xtrap"
> > Load  "type1"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Mouse0"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option  "Protocol" "Auto"
> > Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> > Driver  "kbd"
> > Option  "XkbModel" "pc104"
> > Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Monitor"
> > Identifier   "Monitor0"
> >  ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC:
> > HorizSync31.5 - 57.0
> > VertRefresh  50.0 - 90.0
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier  "Card0"
> > Driver  "vga"
> > Card"* Generic VGA compatible"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Card0"
> > Monitor"Monitor0"
> > DefaultDepth 4
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 4
> > Modes"1024x768" "800x600"
> > EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> > 
> > -Xorg.0.log
> > 
> > _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
> > _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/prolin.home.net:0
> > _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6
> > 
> > X Window System Version 7.2.0
> > Release Date: 22 January 2007
> > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
> > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE i386 
> > Current Operating System: FreeBSD prolin.home.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 
> > 6.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Jun 26 17:36:41 CDT 2007 [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PROLIN070626 i386
> > Build Date: 11 June 2007
> > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
> > to make sure that you have the latest version.
> > Module Loader present
> > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Jul 12 10:43:19 2007
> > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> > (==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
> > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
> > (**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
> > (**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
> > (==) FontPath set to:
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
> > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
> > (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
> > (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
> > (II) Lo

Re: Garbled text in xterm

2007-07-14 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Hmm.  I've never heard of any symptoms quite like this.
A few stabs in the dark:

 What happened if you used no xorg.conf at all?  Did you get the same
xterm problem?

 Do you have a locale set?
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