Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 18:32, epilogue wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 01:21:19 -0400 > Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 23:50, epilogue wrote: > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:40:08 -0400 > > > Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:45, epilogue wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700 > > > > > Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400 > > > > > > > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best > > > > > > > > > web browser that's extremely light but still has all the > > > > > > > > > "modern day" features one would expect from a web browser > > > > > > > > > and then some. I will warn you about a couple of things, > > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. > > > > > > > > > I've pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never > > > > > > > > > gotten the two to work together. If you want to view Flash, > > > > > > > > > then install the linux-opera port. > > > > > > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of > > > > > > > > > time. I've been using Opera for a long time and I simply > > > > > > > > > can't tolerate any other browsers. The feature set it > > > > > > > > > provides is so expansive that other browsers will seem > > > > > > > > > utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a while and > > > > > > > > > then notice that random':w' or ':wq' start appearing in > > > > > > > > > places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used > > > > > > > > > to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface > > > > > > > > > is not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is > > > > > > > > > highly configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's > > > > > > > > > not to your liking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --roop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with > > > > > > > > Opera? I did a search of the ports tree and found quite a > > > > > > > > few flash ports and was confused on which one to install. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > um, this one... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player > > > > > > > for Linux Mozilla and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hth, > > > > > > > epi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go > > > > > > ahead and install it. > > > > > > > > > > > > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work > > > > > > fine. I get this when I try and run it: > > > > > > > > > > > > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera > > > > > > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not > > > > > > found or could not be opened (-7) > > > > > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > > > > > > > > well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a > > > > > tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen. > > > > > > > > > > my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency > > > > > wasn't installed. try adding that and see what happens. > > > > > > > > > > also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports > > > > > installed and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? if not, this > > > > > will definitely cause you all sorts of grief. if you end up > > > > > installing a linux-base and adding that setting to rc.conf, just be > > > > > aware that it will take a reboot(or some other less drastic > > > > > wizardry that i don't know) in order for the new rc.conf setting to > > > > > take effect. > > > > > > > > > > for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems > > > > > whatsoever. some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a > > > > > different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the > > > > > install of any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to > > > > > depend upon the version you have installed. > > > > > > > > > > give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it. i'm not > > > > > sure that i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers > > > > > crossed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got linux-opera installed and working. Then I installed > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25, and opera shows it in its plugin list, but > > > > when I go to view a flash site, the flash is a blank area. I no > > > > longer get the message telling me I haven't got flash installed. > > > > > > hello again, > > > > > > well, jsyk, the flash plugin doesn't work 100% of the time. so far, i > > > haven't bumped into too many prob
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 01:21:19 -0400 Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 23:50, epilogue wrote: > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:40:08 -0400 > > Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:45, epilogue wrote: > > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700 > > > > Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400 > > > > > > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best > > > > > > > > web browser that's extremely light but still has all the > > > > > > > > "modern day" features one would expect from a web browser > > > > > > > > and then some. I will warn you about a couple of things, > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. > > > > > > > > I've pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never > > > > > > > > gotten the two to work together. If you want to view Flash, > > > > > > > > then install the linux-opera port. > > > > > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of > > > > > > > > time. I've been using Opera for a long time and I simply > > > > > > > > can't tolerate any other browsers. The feature set it > > > > > > > > provides is so expansive that other browsers will seem > > > > > > > > utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a while and > > > > > > > > then notice that random':w' or ':wq' start appearing in > > > > > > > > places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used > > > > > > > > to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface > > > > > > > > is not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is > > > > > > > > highly configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's > > > > > > > > not to your liking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --roop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with > > > > > > > Opera? I did a search of the ports tree and found quite a > > > > > > > few flash ports and was confused on which one to install. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > um, this one... > > > > > > > > > > > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash > > > > > > > > > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player > > > > > > for Linux Mozilla and > > > > > > > > > > > > hth, > > > > > > epi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go > > > > > ahead and install it. > > > > > > > > > > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work > > > > > fine. I get this when I try and run it: > > > > > > > > > > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera > > > > > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not > > > > > found or could not be opened (-7) > > > > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > > > > > > well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a > > > > tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen. > > > > > > > > my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency > > > > wasn't installed. try adding that and see what happens. > > > > > > > > also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports > > > > installed and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? if not, this > > > > will definitely cause you all sorts of grief. if you end up > > > > installing a linux-base and adding that setting to rc.conf, just be > > > > aware that it will take a reboot(or some other less drastic > > > > wizardry that i don't know) in order for the new rc.conf setting to > > > > take effect. > > > > > > > > for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems > > > > whatsoever. some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a > > > > different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the > > > > install of any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to > > > > depend upon the version you have installed. > > > > > > > > give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it. i'm not > > > > sure that i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers > > > > crossed. > > > > > > > > > > > I got linux-opera installed and working. Then I installed > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25, and opera shows it in its plugin list, but > > > when I go to view a flash site, the flash is a blank area. I no > > > longer get the message telling me I haven't got flash installed. > > > > hello again, > > > > well, jsyk, the flash plugin doesn't work 100% of the time. so far, i > > haven't bumped into too many problematic sites, however ymwv. > > > > please send me the URL you're visiting. i'll give it a whirl on my end > > and let you know what kind of results i get. if it doesn't work on my > > end, we'll probably both have to wait for the next version of fl
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 23:50, epilogue wrote: > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:40:08 -0400 > Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:45, epilogue wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700 > > > Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400 > > > > > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web > > > > > > > browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern > > > > > > > day" features one would expect from a web browser and then > > > > > > > some. I will warn you about a couple of things, though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've > > > > > > > pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten > > > > > > > the two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then > > > > > > > install the linux-opera port. > > > > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. > > > > > > > I've been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't > > > > > > > tolerate any other browsers. The feature set it provides is so > > > > > > > expansive that other browsers will seem utterly gutted in > > > > > > > comparison. Ever use vi for a while and then notice that random > > > > > > > ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in places where they shouldn't > > > > > > > because you've gotten so used to the commands? Same idea here. > > > > > > > 3] The default interface is not for everyone. Just realize that > > > > > > > the interface is highly configurable so don't let it turn you > > > > > > > off if it's not to your liking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --roop > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with > > > > > > Opera? I did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few > > > > > > flash ports and was confused on which one to install. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > um, this one... > > > > > > > > > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash > > > > > > > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for > > > > > Linux Mozilla and > > > > > > > > > > hth, > > > > > epi > > > > > > > > > > > > > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go > > > > ahead and install it. > > > > > > > > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine. > > > > I get this when I try and run it: > > > > > > > > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera > > > > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found > > > > or could not be opened (-7) > > > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > > > > well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a > > > tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen. > > > > > > my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency wasn't > > > installed. try adding that and see what happens. > > > > > > also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports > > > installed and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? if not, this will > > > definitely cause you all sorts of grief. if you end up installing a > > > linux-base and adding that setting to rc.conf, just be aware that it > > > will take a reboot(or some other less drastic wizardry that i don't > > > know) in order for the new rc.conf setting to take effect. > > > > > > for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems > > > whatsoever. some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a > > > different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the install > > > of any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to depend upon the > > > version you have installed. > > > > > > give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it. i'm not sure > > > that i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers crossed. > > > > > > > > I got linux-opera installed and working. Then I installed > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25, and opera shows it in its plugin list, but > > when I go to view a flash site, the flash is a blank area. I no longer > > get the message telling me I haven't got flash installed. > > hello again, > > well, jsyk, the flash plugin doesn't work 100% of the time. so far, i > haven't bumped into too many problematic sites, however ymwv. > > please send me the URL you're visiting. i'll give it a whirl on my end > and let you know what kind of results i get. if it doesn't work on my end, > we'll probably both have to wait for the next version of flash from > macromedia (not opera's fault and should give the same poor results in > firefox, moz, galeon, etc). if it does work on my end, i'll help you to > determine the problem as best i can. > > ep > http://www.mlcompany.net is the url Hmm.. Bruce ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] m
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:45, epilogue wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700 > Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400 > > > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web > > > > > browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" > > > > > features one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will > > > > > warn you about a couple of things, though. > > > > > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've > > > > > pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the > > > > > two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the > > > > > linux-opera port. > > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've > > > > > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any > > > > > other browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that > > > > > other browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi > > > > > for a while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start > > > > > appearing in places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so > > > > > used to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is > > > > > not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is highly > > > > > configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's not to your > > > > > liking. > > > > > > > > > > --roop > > > > > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera? I > > > > did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and > > > > was confused on which one to install. > > > > > > > > > > um, this one... > > > > > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash > > > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux > > > Mozilla and > > > > > > hth, > > > epi > > > > > > > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go ahead > > and install it. > > > > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine. I > > get this when I try and run it: > > > > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera > > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found or > > could not be opened (-7) > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a > tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen. > > my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency wasn't > installed. try adding that and see what happens. > > also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports installed > and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? if not, this will definitely > cause you all sorts of grief. if you end up installing a linux-base and > adding that setting to rc.conf, just be aware that it will take a reboot > (or some other less drastic wizardry that i don't know) in order for the > new rc.conf setting to take effect. > > for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems > whatsoever. some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a > different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the install of > any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to depend upon the version > you have installed. > > give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it. i'm not sure that > i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers crossed. > > I got linux-opera installed and working. Then I installed linux-flashplugin-7.0r25, and opera shows it in its plugin list, but when I go to view a flash site, the flash is a blank area. I no longer get the message telling me I haven't got flash installed. Ideas? Thanks guys Bruce ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700 Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400 > > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote: > > > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web > > > > browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" > > > > features one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will > > > > warn you about a couple of things, though. > > > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've > > > > pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the > > > > two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the > > > > linux-opera port. > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've > > > > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any > > > > other browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that > > > > other browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi > > > > for a while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start > > > > appearing in places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so > > > > used to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is > > > > not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is highly > > > > configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's not to your > > > > liking. > > > > > > > > --roop > > > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera? I > > > did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and > > > was confused on which one to install. > > > > > > > um, this one... > > > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux > > Mozilla and > > > > hth, > > epi > > > > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go ahead > and install it. > > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine. I > get this when I try and run it: > > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found or > could not be opened (-7) > Segmentation fault (core dumped) well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen. my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency wasn't installed. try adding that and see what happens. also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports installed and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? if not, this will definitely cause you all sorts of grief. if you end up installing a linux-base and adding that setting to rc.conf, just be aware that it will take a reboot (or some other less drastic wizardry that i don't know) in order for the new rc.conf setting to take effect. for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems whatsoever. some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the install of any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to depend upon the version you have installed. give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it. i'm not sure that i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers crossed. cheers, epi > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400 > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote: > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web browser > > > that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" features > > > one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will warn you > > > about a couple of things, though. > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've pulled > > > out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the two to > > > work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the linux-opera > > > port. > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've > > > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any other > > > browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that other > > > browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a > > > while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in > > > places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used to the > > > commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is not for everyone. > > > Just realize that the interface is highly configurable so don't let it > > > turn you off if it's not to your liking. > > > > > > --roop > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera? I > > did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and was > > confused on which one to install. > > > > um, this one... > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux > Mozilla and > > hth, > epi > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go ahead and install it. a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine. I get this when I try and run it: [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found or could not be opened (-7) Segmentation fault (core dumped) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400 Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roop Nanuwa wrote: > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web browser > > that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" features > > one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will warn you > > about a couple of things, though. > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've pulled > > out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the two to > > work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the linux-opera > > port. > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've > > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any other > > browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that other > > browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a > > while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in > > places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used to the > > commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is not for everyone. > > Just realize that the interface is highly configurable so don't let it > > turn you off if it's not to your liking. > > > > --roop > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera? I > did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and was > confused on which one to install. > um, this one... ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux Mozilla and hth, epi > Thanks > -- > Save energy: Drive a smaller shell. > > /* Aaron Walker > * http://butsugenjitemple.org/~ka0ttic/ > */ > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
Roop Nanuwa wrote: I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" features one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will warn you about a couple of things, though. 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the linux-opera port. 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any other browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that other browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is highly configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's not to your liking. --roop Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera? I did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and was confused on which one to install. Thanks -- Save energy: Drive a smaller shell. /* Aaron Walker * http://butsugenjitemple.org/~ka0ttic/ */ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:48:45 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i can't help you with the other points, however, if you're looking for a > _FAST_ browser which can handle flash, try out opera. the download is > small, so testing it won't monopolize your dial-up connection all > afternoon like moz. I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" features one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will warn you about a couple of things, though. 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the linux-opera port. 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any other browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that other browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is highly configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's not to your liking. --roop ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:39:17 -0400 Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > When I install the Gnome port, it installs Mozilla 1.6 as default. I > guess Epiphany 1.2.6 uses it. > > I have a few questions: > > 1) How do I get Epiphany to not use Mozilla and what performance hit > will I take for doing this, if any? > > 2) If Epiphany doesn't use mozilla, then what does it use? > > 3) Mozilla seems to be a system resource hog. At least this version that > is installed. I just need a browser that is fasssttt, doesn't mess up > the fonts, and is capable of viewing flash? I don't need all that other > stuff mozilla installs, such as, the email client, etc.. i can't help you with the other points, however, if you're looking for a _FAST_ browser which can handle flash, try out opera. the download is small, so testing it won't monopolize your dial-up connection all afternoon like moz. there are two version in the ports collection. though i've got a soft spot for the FBSD native version, i've had much better success running the plugins (flash, acrobat, java, ...) with linux-opera. opera is one innovative and featureful browser - without the bloat. if you are comfortable with the keyboard, you'll never have to touch your mouse again. if you love your mouse, then set-up the mouse gestures and browse with waves of the hand. as you can tell, i'm sold on this browser. i'll end my evangelizing with this... like here at FBSD, the opera user community is very supportive (my.opera.com/forums) and there are many tutorials out there (nontroppo.org/wiki) to help you radically customize the browser and optimize your mileage. cheers, epi p.s. though opera 'does' have an integrated e-mail client, the amount of additional code they wrote to include it is negligible in size and won't cause any performance hit. (the version they released with the integrated e-mail client was faster than the preceding one without. go figure.) > Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated. > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > When I install the Gnome port, it installs Mozilla 1.6 as default. I > guess Epiphany 1.2.6 uses it. > > I have a few questions: > > 1) How do I get Epiphany to not use Mozilla and what performance hit > will I take for doing this, if any? I think the performance hit will be that Epiphany won't work at all. It seems to me that Epiphany is using Mozilla's rendering engine, without it, Epiphany is nothing more than a text viewer (it probably won't work at all ... Ephiphany lists Mozilla as a "dependency") > 2) If Epiphany doesn't use mozilla, then what does it use? It uses Mozilla, period. > 3) Mozilla seems to be a system resource hog. At least this version that > is installed. I just need a browser that is fasssttt, doesn't mess up > the fonts, and is capable of viewing flash? I don't need all that other > stuff mozilla installs, such as, the email client, etc.. Not gonna happen. The complex part of a modern browser is the rendering engine that has to take the convoluted HTML/CSS standards and turn them into something pretty on the screen. You could install something like Firefox ... which is the minimum pieces of Mozilla necessary to be a browser, but you probably wouldn't save much as resources go. You could install something like dillo ... which is incredibly small and fast, but it won't support all that fancy stuff like flash and "perfect fonts". Simple fact is that HTML has been bastardized to be far more complex than there's any need for, thus you need a huge program, powerful processor and gigs of RAM to "surf the web" these days. However, I would surf through all the browsers in the ports until you find something as close to what you want as possible ... there's lots of choices, and one of them is bound to be reasonably close to what you're looking for. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
