Re: HP Scanner:: zilch

2005-12-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:57:57PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 My Epson requires this line in epson.conf:
 
 usb /dev/uscanner0
 
 The hp.conf file kind of implies something similar, but I can't tell
 whether it would want the line above or this:
 
 /dev/uscanner0
   option connect-device
 
  Hm, this is strange. I have two hp files in sane.d, both sseem
  oriented toward Linux.  There is an entry for the 4100c in
  hp.conf, but it wants to create /dev/scanner.
 
 That line tells sane which device to use.  In FreeBSD, that's 
 /dev/uscanner0.

How do I tell sane to use hp.conf (or my new hp4100.conf)?
Do I need to put something in /etc/rc.conf, eg, or what?
This is what I have the seems apropos:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# cat hp4100.conf
#
##MODELED AFTER: ma1509.conf: see sane-ma1509(5)
##hp4100.conf: 
#

#Warm-up time for the lamp in seconds
###option warmup-time 30

#
# USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend
# HP ScanJet 4100C
usb 0x03f0 0x0101

#Manual setting (e.g. for FreeBSD)
/dev/uscanner0

My best shot; round #1.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# ll hp*
 -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  497 Dec 22 16:40 hp.conf
 -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  238 Oct  9 23:09 hp5400.conf
 
 From hp.conf::
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# more hp.conf
 scsi HP
 # Uncomment the following if you have Error during device I/O on SCSI
 #   option dumb-read
 #
 # The usual place for a SCSI-scanner on Linux
 /dev/scanner
 #
 # USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend
 # HP ScanJet 4100C
 usb 0x03f0 0x0101
  .
  .
  .
 
 Would it make sense to create an hp4100.conf with your epson line
 usb /dev/uscanner0 as a first line?
 
 It looks like all HP scanners other than the HP5400 are defined in 
 hp.conf, so use that one.

My rational against hp.conf is the ^/dev/scanner line as 
well as the first SCSI line.  What does scsi HP do?
I don't use SCSI in this FBSD server.

 
 I am missing /dev/uscanner0.  How is this /dev created?
 
 When the kernel detects the USB scanner, it should create 
 /dev/uscanner0.  

Should I uncomment the USB 2.0 device in my KERNCONF file?


 Back in 5.4 or so, my Thinkpad would not detect the 
 scanner unless I hot-plugged the USB cable (leaving the scanner 
 connected and just powering it on did not work).  On a desktop system, 
 just turning on the scanner with the USB cable works.
 
 All of this may have changed with 6.0, to which you should upgrade 
 unless you have a very compelling reason to stick with the obsolete 5.3.


I built my 5.4 upgrades a week+ ago.  Installed kernel and 
world Thursday mornng.  I'm using a desktop in office for this;
my ThinkPad has no USB.  Anyway, some part of the scanner 
hardware is trashed; part(s) being replaced.  When I see 
/dev/uscanner0, things should look lots brighter.  I hope.


 
 q2 16:27 tao [5015] kldstat
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
 1   11 0xc040 5e7530   kernel
 2   14 0xc09e8000 537f0acpi.ko
 31 0xc1aaf000 2000 blank_saver.ko
 41 0xc1ad1000 17000linux.ko
 51 0xc2352000 3000 uscanner.ko
 
 Does this output look right?  This may be right the scanner
 wasn't seen.  I figured that by kldloading uscanner.ko,
 /dev/uscanner0 would be auto-created.  I need some other
 magic.
 
 I have the USB modules in my kernel, so I don't see it in kldstat.


AFAIK, three of my USB modules are builtins.  Would you please 
grep usb your KERNEL file?  gotta be something like this
why uscanner0 isn't there.

thanks much,

gary


 
 -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

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Re: HP Scanner:: zilch

2005-12-24 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote:


Hm, this is strange. I have two hp files in sane.d, both sseem
oriented toward Linux.  There is an entry for the 4100c in
hp.conf, but it wants to create /dev/scanner.


That line tells sane which device to use.  In FreeBSD, that's
/dev/uscanner0.


How do I tell sane to use hp.conf (or my new hp4100.conf)?


AFAIK, sane just looks through all the conf files for something that 
matches the scanner devices found.  sane-find-scanner would be where it 
does that.



My rational against hp.conf is the ^/dev/scanner line as
well as the first SCSI line.  What does scsi HP do?
I don't use SCSI in this FBSD server.


Just comment that line out.


AFAIK, three of my USB modules are builtins.  Would you please
grep usb your KERNEL file?  gotta be something like this
why uscanner0 isn't there.


I have:

uhci
ohci
ehci
usb
ugen
uhid
ukbd
ulpt
umass
ums
uscanner

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: HP Scanner:: zilch

2005-12-23 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote:


My Epson requires this line in epson.conf:

usb /dev/uscanner0

The hp.conf file kind of implies something similar, but I can't tell
whether it would want the line above or this:

/dev/uscanner0
  option connect-device


Hm, this is strange. I have two hp files in sane.d, both sseem
oriented toward Linux.  There is an entry for the 4100c in
hp.conf, but it wants to create /dev/scanner.


That line tells sane which device to use.  In FreeBSD, that's 
/dev/uscanner0.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# ll hp*
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  497 Dec 22 16:40 hp.conf
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  238 Oct  9 23:09 hp5400.conf


From hp.conf::


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# more hp.conf
scsi HP
# Uncomment the following if you have Error during device I/O on SCSI
#   option dumb-read
#
# The usual place for a SCSI-scanner on Linux
/dev/scanner
#
# USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend
# HP ScanJet 4100C
usb 0x03f0 0x0101
.
.
.

Would it make sense to create an hp4100.conf with your epson line
usb /dev/uscanner0 as a first line?


It looks like all HP scanners other than the HP5400 are defined in 
hp.conf, so use that one.



I am missing /dev/uscanner0.  How is this /dev created?


When the kernel detects the USB scanner, it should create 
/dev/uscanner0.  Back in 5.4 or so, my Thinkpad would not detect the 
scanner unless I hot-plugged the USB cable (leaving the scanner 
connected and just powering it on did not work).  On a desktop system, 
just turning on the scanner with the USB cable works.


All of this may have changed with 6.0, to which you should upgrade 
unless you have a very compelling reason to stick with the obsolete 5.3.



q2 16:27 tao [5015] kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
1   11 0xc040 5e7530   kernel
2   14 0xc09e8000 537f0acpi.ko
31 0xc1aaf000 2000 blank_saver.ko
41 0xc1ad1000 17000linux.ko
51 0xc2352000 3000 uscanner.ko

Does this output look right?  This may be right the scanner
wasn't seen.  I figured that by kldloading uscanner.ko,
/dev/uscanner0 would be auto-created.  I need some other
magic.


I have the USB modules in my kernel, so I don't see it in kldstat.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: HP Scanner:: zilch

2005-12-22 Thread albi
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:16:58 -0800
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Before I write off the HP Scanjet 4100c, I thought it's 
   best to check with the list first.  
 
   I have device usb in the kernel; I did a kernel load of
   uscanner.ko and a kldstat shows that the module is there.
   My two USB ports seem to be alive.  Is there a command to
   double-check??

two commands to try :

scanimage -L
sane-find-scanner

(you might want to try this as root if you don't find anything as a
normal user, after (scanner is found) that fix permissions)

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Re: HP Scanner:: zilch

2005-12-22 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote:


Before I write off the HP Scanjet 4100c, I thought it's
best to check with the list first.

I have device usb in the kernel; I did a kernel load of
uscanner.ko and a kldstat shows that the module is there.
My two USB ports seem to be alive.  Is there a command to
double-check??


Device detection should auto-load the uscanner module for you.


I have yet to reboot to reinitialize my 5.3 system.  Otherwise,
can anybody suggest ideas of things to try next?  xsane execs
but cannot find anything.

thanks for some clues.

gary

PS: In /usr/local/etc/sane.d, the hp.conf file lists the
4100c with two heex addrs.  


My Epson requires this line in epson.conf:

usb /dev/uscanner0

The hp.conf file kind of implies something similar, but I can't tell 
whether it would want the line above or this:


/dev/uscanner0
  option connect-device

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: HP Scanner:: zilch

2005-12-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:26:37PM +0100, albi wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:16:58 -0800
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Before I write off the HP Scanjet 4100c, I thought it's 
  best to check with the list first.  
  
  I have device usb in the kernel; I did a kernel load of
  uscanner.ko and a kldstat shows that the module is there.
  My two USB ports seem to be alive.  Is there a command to
  double-check??
 
 two commands to try :
 
 scanimage -L
 sane-find-scanner
 
 (you might want to try this as root if you don't find anything as a
 normal user, after (scanner is found) that fix permissions)
 

Nada.  Either the transformer isn't working or the unit 
itseld is defective.  Or *both*.  That's what comes with
AS-IS.

How can i be sure that my dual USB ports are working?  
Is usbstats (?) the right utility?  Again, I know 0.0
about USB.

thanks in advance,

gary



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Re: HP Scanner:: zilch

2005-12-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 04:46:56PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  Before I write off the HP Scanjet 4100c, I thought it's
  best to check with the list first.
 
  I have device usb in the kernel; I did a kernel load of
  uscanner.ko and a kldstat shows that the module is there.
  My two USB ports seem to be alive.  Is there a command to
  double-check??
 
 Device detection should auto-load the uscanner module for you.
 
  I have yet to reboot to reinitialize my 5.3 system.  Otherwise,
  can anybody suggest ideas of things to try next?  xsane execs
  but cannot find anything.
 
  thanks for some clues.
 
  gary
 
  PS: In /usr/local/etc/sane.d, the hp.conf file lists the
  4100c with two heex addrs.  
 
 My Epson requires this line in epson.conf:
 
 usb /dev/uscanner0
 
 The hp.conf file kind of implies something similar, but I can't tell 
 whether it would want the line above or this:
 
 /dev/uscanner0
   option connect-device

Hm, this is strange. I have two hp files in sane.d, both sseem
oriented toward Linux.  There is an entry for the 4100c in
hp.conf, but it wants to create /dev/scanner.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# ll hp*
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  497 Dec 22 16:40 hp.conf
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  238 Oct  9 23:09 hp5400.conf

From hp.conf::

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/sane.d# more hp.conf 
scsi HP
# Uncomment the following if you have Error during device I/O on SCSI
#   option dumb-read
#
# The usual place for a SCSI-scanner on Linux
/dev/scanner
#
# USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend
# HP ScanJet 4100C
usb 0x03f0 0x0101
.
.
.

Would it make sense to create an hp4100.conf with your epson line
usb /dev/uscanner0 as a first line?



 
I am missing /dev/uscanner0.  How is this /dev created?  


q2 16:27 tao [5015] kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 1   11 0xc040 5e7530   kernel
 2   14 0xc09e8000 537f0acpi.ko
 31 0xc1aaf000 2000 blank_saver.ko
 41 0xc1ad1000 17000linux.ko
 51 0xc2352000 3000 uscanner.ko

Does this output look right?  This may be right the scanner 
wasn't seen.  I figured that by kldloading uscanner.ko, 
/dev/uscanner0 would be auto-created.  I need some other 
magic.




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