Re: Hardware support under UltraSPARC
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: The 3c590 uses the 'vx' driver which is PIO/MMIO only. If it compiles on the sparc64 I suspect it will work fine. There is 0 chance the vr(4) driver will work on sparc64, it uses vtophys() for DMA and it doesn't look like it's endian-clean either. By the way, the originator of this thread mailed me privately saying his card is actually a 3c905, so he should be able to use the xl(4) driver without problems. Cheers, Maxime To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Hardware support under UltraSPARC
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Maxime Henrion wrote: Matthew N. Dodd wrote: The 3c590 uses the 'vx' driver which is PIO/MMIO only. If it compiles on the sparc64 I suspect it will work fine. There is 0 chance the vr(4) driver will work on sparc64, it uses vtophys() for DMA and it doesn't look like it's endian-clean either. By the way, the originator of this thread mailed me privately saying his card is actually a 3c905, so he should be able to use the xl(4) driver without problems. I said 'vx' not 'vr'. :) -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL| ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Hardware support under UltraSPARC
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Maxime Henrion wrote: Matthew N. Dodd wrote: The 3c590 uses the 'vx' driver which is PIO/MMIO only. If it compiles on the sparc64 I suspect it will work fine. There is 0 chance the vr(4) driver will work on sparc64, it uses vtophys() for DMA and it doesn't look like it's endian-clean either. By the way, the originator of this thread mailed me privately saying his card is actually a 3c905, so he should be able to use the xl(4) driver without problems. I said 'vx' not 'vr'. :) Oops, that will teach me not to send mail too quickly when you wake up :-). Cheers, Maxime To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Hardware support under UltraSPARC
The 3c590 uses the 'vx' driver which is PIO/MMIO only. If it compiles on the sparc64 I suspect it will work fine. On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Maxime Henrion wrote: Alan Lai wrote: freebsd has those drivers for x86 machines, is that possible to compile them for ultrasparc machines? is there any way to get an x86 nic work under freebsd/ultrasparc? if so, whats the work that i have to do? please advice You first need to convert the card to use the busdma API if it's not using it already, and you then have to deal with endianness issues (FreeBSD/sparc64 is big endian). Look at the http://www.FreeBSD.org/projects/busdma/ for more information on busdma. More specifically, you can look at the xl(4) driver which has recently been converted to busdma and made endian-safe. is the freebsd-sparc kernel not open source? i cannot compile/custimize it myself? Err, the FreeBSD project is entirely opensource. The biggest part of the kernel is MI (machine independant) and thus doesn't have to be changed to work on other architectures. A smaller part of the kernel is MD (machine dependant) and needs to be written for every different architecture we support. The sparc64 specific sources of the FreeBSD kernel can be found in /usr/src/sys/sparc64. On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jeremy Faulkner wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:10:53AM -0500, Alan Lai wrote: Hello, I am a newbie to freebsd, I want to clarify something before I get into using it. I plan to put freebsd5 on a sun e250, this is a pci based ultrasparc machine, but at the same time, this machine has a non-sun hardware, which is a network card thats originally for x86 machine. This card is working probably under solaris w/ some non-official driver, is supported under linux/x86. My question is, will this card, intel fastethernet 100, or 3com590 work under freebsd/ultrasparc w/ some tiny tinkering? It's unlikely, since the drivers for those cards are commented out in sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC. The drivers probably need work to use busdma. I don't remember whether 3c590 cards are supported by xl(4). If so, it should just work on sparc64. It hasn't been uncommented in GENERIC yet, but I'll do it a second. The Intel card won't work on sparc64 yet, but I'm currently working on the fxp(4) driver for the busdma conversion. Once this is done, we need to make it endian-safe in order for it to work on sparc64. Cheers, Maxime To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-sparc in the body of the message -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL| ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Hardware support under UltraSPARC
freebsd has those drivers for x86 machines, is that possible to compile them for ultrasparc machines? is there any way to get an x86 nic work under freebsd/ultrasparc? if so, whats the work that i have to do? please advice is the freebsd-sparc kernel not open source? i cannot compile/custimize it myself? Thank you very much Alan On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jeremy Faulkner wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:10:53AM -0500, Alan Lai wrote: Hello, I am a newbie to freebsd, I want to clarify something before I get into using it. I plan to put freebsd5 on a sun e250, this is a pci based ultrasparc machine, but at the same time, this machine has a non-sun hardware, which is a network card thats originally for x86 machine. This card is working probably under solaris w/ some non-official driver, is supported under linux/x86. My question is, will this card, intel fastethernet 100, or 3com590 work under freebsd/ultrasparc w/ some tiny tinkering? It's unlikely, since the drivers for those cards are commented out in sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC. The drivers probably need work to use busdma. and also, can i compile freebsd's kernel like linux? No. thanks Alan. -- Jeremy Faulkner http://www.gldis.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Hardware support under UltraSPARC
Alan Lai wrote: freebsd has those drivers for x86 machines, is that possible to compile them for ultrasparc machines? is there any way to get an x86 nic work under freebsd/ultrasparc? if so, whats the work that i have to do? please advice You first need to convert the card to use the busdma API if it's not using it already, and you then have to deal with endianness issues (FreeBSD/sparc64 is big endian). Look at the http://www.FreeBSD.org/projects/busdma/ for more information on busdma. More specifically, you can look at the xl(4) driver which has recently been converted to busdma and made endian-safe. is the freebsd-sparc kernel not open source? i cannot compile/custimize it myself? Err, the FreeBSD project is entirely opensource. The biggest part of the kernel is MI (machine independant) and thus doesn't have to be changed to work on other architectures. A smaller part of the kernel is MD (machine dependant) and needs to be written for every different architecture we support. The sparc64 specific sources of the FreeBSD kernel can be found in /usr/src/sys/sparc64. On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jeremy Faulkner wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:10:53AM -0500, Alan Lai wrote: Hello, I am a newbie to freebsd, I want to clarify something before I get into using it. I plan to put freebsd5 on a sun e250, this is a pci based ultrasparc machine, but at the same time, this machine has a non-sun hardware, which is a network card thats originally for x86 machine. This card is working probably under solaris w/ some non-official driver, is supported under linux/x86. My question is, will this card, intel fastethernet 100, or 3com590 work under freebsd/ultrasparc w/ some tiny tinkering? It's unlikely, since the drivers for those cards are commented out in sys/sparc64/conf/GENERIC. The drivers probably need work to use busdma. I don't remember whether 3c590 cards are supported by xl(4). If so, it should just work on sparc64. It hasn't been uncommented in GENERIC yet, but I'll do it a second. The Intel card won't work on sparc64 yet, but I'm currently working on the fxp(4) driver for the busdma conversion. Once this is done, we need to make it endian-safe in order for it to work on sparc64. Cheers, Maxime To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message