Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-04 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 02:46:06PM -0500, Chris wrote:
 Bill Moran wrote:
 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nicx wrote:
 
   Hello Guy's!
 
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail ?e 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site ?e dw%ro to domain name!
 
 I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
 
 
 Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
 
 When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
 direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
 http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
 
 Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
 asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
 found the answer covered many times over.
 
 This is really no different then users that top post.
 Sorry folks, I'm not the touchy-feely type.
 Choose your verbiage - I call it as I see it.

Can you then at least please refrain from irritating other users, even if in
your eyes they're less intelligent than you? I'd assume you know how to use
the delete key.

--Stijn (who still can't get why people respond to messages that they
 feel are inappropriate or dumb, and agrees with Bill's feeling
 that this kind of reply is not good for FreeBSD as a whole)

-- 
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couldn't design the Next Big Thing(TM) unless it involved them taking a
photocopier and someone else's design of The Next Big Thing(TM).
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Chris
Nicx wrote:
   Hello Guy's!
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
--
Best regards,
Chris
It's better to retire too soon than too late.
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Bill Moran
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nicx wrote:
 Hello Guy's!
  
 Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
 ... Nicx
  www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
 Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
 
 I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line

Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.

When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

If you want to be rude to people, please don't associate yourself with
FreeBSD when you do it.

As to the OP's question, look at wine (http://www.winehq.com) ... although
I've never had much success with it, that's what it's supposed to do.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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RE: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Tom Connolly
Here here!

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Subject: Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no
subject)

Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nicx wrote:
 Hello Guy's!
  
 Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
 ... Nicx
  www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
 Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
 
 I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line

Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.

When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

If you want to be rude to people, please don't associate yourself with
FreeBSD when you do it.

As to the OP's question, look at wine (http://www.winehq.com) ... although
I've never had much success with it, that's what it's supposed to do.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Oct 1, 2004, at 3:24 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nicx wrote:
   Hello Guy's!
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on 
freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox 
www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject 
line
Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
Maybe he was having a bad day and took one too many irritations like 
that to heart; I sometimes don't bother replying to top posters anymore 
in my emails or to lists just because it's irritating to me to keep 
going through jumbled headers and sorting crap out to get an actual 
idea of what is going on in an email.  Eventually I just pop it into 
the bit bucket...if it's important, they'll email again with hopefully 
a new email that's clean and free of crap.

Same with people that use reply-to to post their new message 
topics...so it gets threaded under a different subject that has NOTHING 
to do with the actual topic at hand.  So they screw up the threading.

AAARGH
then again, I break the 72-character wrapping.  Other people are really 
miffed at that in this list.  I wish someone would fix the Unix mailers 
to see this properly, because I'm using Mail.app and it's stupid after 
being drilled so often not to hit enter periodically for word 
processing.  Mail.app does put in wrapping, but it's using a type of 
word wrapping that is configurable...something from qualcomm, I want to 
say?...where messages would be dynamically wrapped to be more readable 
on variable display sizes.  Something about messages showing up 
properly in email editors on PCs to small displays like those on PDA's 
and cellphones.  If the mailer interprets this properly, every 
quotation is properly indented regardless of the size of the window.  
So I irritate people in that regard.

When everyone who emails me stops top posting and screwing up the 
threading or doing anything else to irritate my wonderful online 
experience, I'll manually wrap lines at 72 characters.

Anyway, yeah, it was wrong to be so harsh...but maybe he had *some* 
justification in mind at the time.

If you want to be rude to people, please don't associate yourself with
FreeBSD when you do it.
Yeah...take it to an advocacy forum! :-)
As to the OP's question, look at wine (http://www.winehq.com) ... 
although
I've never had much success with it, that's what it's supposed to do.
Try using vmware, or QEMU.  Or Plex86, or whatever they're calling that 
project now.  VM's tended to work much better for running Windows 
software than WINE has worked for me, but that's just my experience.

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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Chris
Bill Moran wrote:
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nicx wrote:
  Hello Guy's!
  Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
  ... Nicx
   www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
  Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line

Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
found the answer covered many times over.

This is really no different then users that top post.
Sorry folks, I'm not the touchy-feely type.
Choose your verbiage - I call it as I see it.
--
Best regards,
Chris
Beware of the physician who is great at getting
out of trouble.
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Bill Moran
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bill Moran wrote:
  Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Nicx wrote:
 
Hello Guy's!
 
Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
... Nicx
 www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
 
 I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
  
  
  Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
  
  When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
  direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
  http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
 
 Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
 asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
 found the answer covered many times over.

No.  Nothing has changed.  The official list policy has ALWAYS been to
be polite.  And people have ALWAYS violated that policy.  And people
like me have ALWAYS jumped in and made a point of the fact that this
kind of thing is NOT acceptable.

I don't care how many flame wars have upset you.  This list can get
VERY frustrating at times ... since it's not moderated, people say a
lot of things, but that doesn't mean it's OK.  It just means that
nobody's going to get banned from the list because they have a bad
day.

On top of that, I'm pointing out ... once again, that OFFICIAL LIST POLICY
is posted at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html (there is a copy of
this on www.freebsd.org, but I don't feel like searching for it right
now)  and I quote:

... If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer.

 If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him
this message in reply, if you like.

 This is really no different then users that top post.
 Sorry folks, I'm not the touchy-feely type.
 Choose your verbiage - I call it as I see it.

I don't really care what type you are.  If you continually make
rude remarks to new posters, I will email postmaster@ with a corpus
of your rudeness, and request that you be banned on the basis that
it's against list policy.

As I said, we all have bad days, I'm no exception.  But admit that
you're having a bad day, apologize for it and move on.  If you
can't do that, you should follow grog's advice and don't answer.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Josh Hansen
Chris wrote:
Nicx wrote:
   Hello Guy's!
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!

I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
It would be nice if everyone used proper grammar and spelling as well.  ;)
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Simon Barner
Bill Moran wrote:
 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

  Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
  asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
  found the answer covered many times over.
 
 No.  Nothing has changed.  The official list policy has ALWAYS been to
 be polite.  And people have ALWAYS violated that policy.  And people
 like me have ALWAYS jumped in and made a point of the fact that this
 kind of thing is NOT acceptable.

[ outline of list charta ]

I absolutely agree with Bill. One of the most pleasant things about
FreeBSD mailing lists and the community as a whole is that you have
the feeling that you are talking to adult human beings you share an
interest / preference in operating system / profession / etc. with.

And I heared a lot of people support my opinion, esp. from newbies
trying FreeBSD for the first time. The professional and polite style
here has become rare in today's internet, where every Tom, Dick and
Harry thinks he needs to be kewl or insulting.

Simon


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