RE: Imap Server and Procmail

2004-01-22 Thread Mike
> However, you will have to teach your users to accept the "security
> certificate cannot be verified" message at the beginning of a mail
> session.   This has proved a difficult concept for a few of my users.
> It seems there should be some way to teach Outlook to accept it
> permanently but I have not been able to do so.  If you find a solution
> to this, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Ask users to point their IE to https://your.mail.server:993/

And click on install certificate. Outlook will not complain any more.

Cheers,
Mike

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RE: Imap Server and Procmail

2004-01-21 Thread michael Alexander
I believe you have to add it into IE's certificate list, and then outlook
will remember it.
As for how to do that step with FreeBSD, I'm not sure on that.

-Mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Drew Tomlinson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:32 AM
> To: Matthew Seaman
> Cc: Loren M. Lang; FreeBSD Mailing list; Jonathan Chen
> Subject: Re: Imap Server and Procmail
> 
> 
> Matthew Seaman told a big fish story including the following on 
> 1/21/2004 1:26 AM:
> 
> >On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:22:25PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 06:22:33PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:18:07PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> >>>
> >>>[...]
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>>access.  I installed uw-imap as it's what I used on 
> linux.  It doesn't
> >>>>have any confg file support and was pretty much plug in 
> way, but on
> >>>>freebsd it doesn't seem to be working, it gives the error 
> message bad
> >>>>username or password.  What am I missing, there doesn't seem to be
> >>>>anything to even configure for it to complain about.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>You need to build the mail/imap-uw port and the underlying 
> mail/cclient
> >>>with -DWITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT.
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Will this require SSL for using plaintext or can I avoid 
> SSL?  This is
> >>for a company migrating from a windoze mail server to a unix-based
> >>solution and I don't want to have to install a homemade CA 
> cert on all
> >>the 40+ computers there.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >No, you misunderstand.  mail/cclient defaults to doing 
> SSL-ized stuff,
> >and this option adds back the ability to work in plaintext.
> >
> >Even so, you can run IMAPS (encrypted IMAP, uses port 993) and access
> >it via MS Outlook quite happily, without having to install
> >certificates all over the place.
> >  
> >
> However, you will have to teach your users to accept the "security 
> certificate cannot be verified" message at the beginning of a mail 
> session.   This has proved a difficult concept for a few of 
> my users.  
> It seems there should be some way to teach Outlook to accept it 
> permanently but I have not been able to do so.  If you find a 
> solution 
> to this, I'd appreciate hearing about it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Drew
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Re: Imap Server and Procmail

2004-01-21 Thread Drew Tomlinson
Loren M. Lang told a big fish story including the following on 1/20/2004 
6:18 PM:

[...]

Lastly, are there any good how-tos on setting up ldap address book
support for outlook?  They're looking for any easy way to have a global
shared address book.  And how would they edit it from windoze?
 

I would also appreciate any info you find on this subject as I wish to 
implement the same thing.  At one time, I tried setting up an LDAP 
server but was overwhelmed with the whole definition of my address 
book.  But now I'm considering giving it another go.

Thanks,

Drew
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Re: Imap Server and Procmail

2004-01-21 Thread Drew Tomlinson
Matthew Seaman told a big fish story including the following on 
1/21/2004 1:26 AM:

On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:22:25PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 06:22:33PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote:
   

On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:18:07PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:

[...]
 

access.  I installed uw-imap as it's what I used on linux.  It doesn't
have any confg file support and was pretty much plug in way, but on
freebsd it doesn't seem to be working, it gives the error message bad
username or password.  What am I missing, there doesn't seem to be
anything to even configure for it to complain about.
   

You need to build the mail/imap-uw port and the underlying mail/cclient
with -DWITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT.
 

Will this require SSL for using plaintext or can I avoid SSL?  This is
for a company migrating from a windoze mail server to a unix-based
solution and I don't want to have to install a homemade CA cert on all
the 40+ computers there.
   

No, you misunderstand.  mail/cclient defaults to doing SSL-ized stuff,
and this option adds back the ability to work in plaintext.
Even so, you can run IMAPS (encrypted IMAP, uses port 993) and access
it via MS Outlook quite happily, without having to install
certificates all over the place.
 

However, you will have to teach your users to accept the "security 
certificate cannot be verified" message at the beginning of a mail 
session.   This has proved a difficult concept for a few of my users.  
It seems there should be some way to teach Outlook to accept it 
permanently but I have not been able to do so.  If you find a solution 
to this, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Cheers,

Drew
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Re: Imap Server and Procmail

2004-01-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:22:25PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 06:22:33PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:18:07PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > > access.  I installed uw-imap as it's what I used on linux.  It doesn't
> > > have any confg file support and was pretty much plug in way, but on
> > > freebsd it doesn't seem to be working, it gives the error message bad
> > > username or password.  What am I missing, there doesn't seem to be
> > > anything to even configure for it to complain about.
> > 
> > You need to build the mail/imap-uw port and the underlying mail/cclient
> > with -DWITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT.
> 
> Will this require SSL for using plaintext or can I avoid SSL?  This is
> for a company migrating from a windoze mail server to a unix-based
> solution and I don't want to have to install a homemade CA cert on all
> the 40+ computers there.

No, you misunderstand.  mail/cclient defaults to doing SSL-ized stuff,
and this option adds back the ability to work in plaintext.

Even so, you can run IMAPS (encrypted IMAP, uses port 993) and access
it via MS Outlook quite happily, without having to install
certificates all over the place.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Imap Server and Procmail

2004-01-21 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 06:22:33PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:18:07PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > access.  I installed uw-imap as it's what I used on linux.  It doesn't
> > have any confg file support and was pretty much plug in way, but on
> > freebsd it doesn't seem to be working, it gives the error message bad
> > username or password.  What am I missing, there doesn't seem to be
> > anything to even configure for it to complain about.
> 
> You need to build the mail/imap-uw port and the underlying mail/cclient
> with -DWITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT.

Will this require SSL for using plaintext or can I avoid SSL?  This is
for a company migrating from a windoze mail server to a unix-based
solution and I don't want to have to install a homemade CA cert on all
the 40+ computers there.

> 
> Cheers.
> -- 
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Re: Imap Server and Procmail

2004-01-20 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:18:07PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:

[...]
> access.  I installed uw-imap as it's what I used on linux.  It doesn't
> have any confg file support and was pretty much plug in way, but on
> freebsd it doesn't seem to be working, it gives the error message bad
> username or password.  What am I missing, there doesn't seem to be
> anything to even configure for it to complain about.

You need to build the mail/imap-uw port and the underlying mail/cclient
with -DWITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT.

Cheers.
-- 
Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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