Re: Increase in the number of ports: upgrade xorg to 7.2...
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 05:07:25PM -0400, Gerard wrote: On June 08, 2007 at 03:48PM Bill Moran wrote: [snip] > It's not an assumption, its OPTIMISM! That reminds me of an optimist who fell off of a fifty story building. As he passed each floor on the way down, he yelled, "So, so far!" Seriously, I hope you are right. I believe it was 'gettext' that was updated a short time age. That update caused me all sorts of dependency problems. My shell, bash, would no longer work, etc. Over a hundred ports had to be updated to get everything back on an even keel. That is the sort of problem I am worried about. Hopefully, it won't happen. FYI, if you'd used an upgrade tool like portupgrade it would have been seamless because portupgrade keeps the old library version around for precisely this reason. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Increase in the number of ports: upgrade xorg to 7.2...
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 08:30:01PM -0400, Gerard wrote: > On June 08, 2007 at 05:12PM Kris Kennaway wrote: > > [snip] > > > FYI, if you'd used an upgrade tool like portupgrade it would have been > > seamless because portupgrade keeps the old library version around for > > precisely this reason. > > Actually, I ended up using portmanager with the '-p' flag to force > updating of all dependencies no matter how far down the dependency > tree they were. OK, but the point about the cause of your problems stands. If you're going to complain about dependency problems, you should consider instead using a tool that is mature enough to handle them without causing problems. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Increase in the number of ports: upgrade xorg to 7.2...
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 05:07:25PM -0400, Gerard wrote: > On June 08, 2007 at 03:48PM Bill Moran wrote: > > [snip] > > > It's not an assumption, its OPTIMISM! > > That reminds me of an optimist who fell off of a fifty story building. > As he passed each floor on the way down, he yelled, "So, so far!" > > Seriously, I hope you are right. I believe it was 'gettext' that was > updated a short time age. That update caused me all sorts of > dependency problems. My shell, bash, would no longer work, etc. > Over a hundred ports had to be updated to get everything back on an > even keel. That is the sort of problem I am worried about. Hopefully, > it won't happen. FYI, if you'd used an upgrade tool like portupgrade it would have been seamless because portupgrade keeps the old library version around for precisely this reason. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Increase in the number of ports: upgrade xorg to 7.2...
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:57:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 08/06/07, Amarendra Godbole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . . . > >Initially I had about 230 packages installed, and after the upgrade > >the number has gone up to 450! Lot of these seem to be X related > >packages. > > > >Does xorg 7.2 have more dependencies, and hence so many ports were > >installed? > > xorg is now 180-230 some-odd tiny packages (ports) > instead of the old -clients, -server, -libraries blobs. > > It seems to work okay, and minor updates are far less > strenuous. I give it five years to either prove itself or > all the developers to go mad and sacrifice their firstborn > in some wicked ritual to the sun-god. > > Failure or not, the "modularity" will be adopted by microsoft > sometime around 2013, who will announce it as "The First > Commercial Product to Use a Wholley Modular Codebase" > except they won't spell "Wholley" with as much style. In MS case, I would expect them to spell it 'holey' and introduce some special incantations to be used with prescribed incense. jerry > > I just hope we aren't still putting up with people using "impact" > all the time, by then. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Increase in the number of ports: upgrade xorg to 7.2...
On 08/06/07, Amarendra Godbole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . Initially I had about 230 packages installed, and after the upgrade the number has gone up to 450! Lot of these seem to be X related packages. Does xorg 7.2 have more dependencies, and hence so many ports were installed? xorg is now 180-230 some-odd tiny packages (ports) instead of the old -clients, -server, -libraries blobs. It seems to work okay, and minor updates are far less strenuous. I give it five years to either prove itself or all the developers to go mad and sacrifice their firstborn in some wicked ritual to the sun-god. Failure or not, the "modularity" will be adopted by microsoft sometime around 2013, who will announce it as "The First Commercial Product to Use a Wholley Modular Codebase" except they won't spell "Wholley" with as much style. I just hope we aren't still putting up with people using "impact" all the time, by then. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Increase in the number of ports: upgrade xorg to 7.2...
In response to "Amarendra Godbole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I recently upgraded to xorg 7.2 by doing a complete portupgrade. I run > FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, with the default kernel, and default settings. > Initially I had about 230 packages installed, and after the upgrade > the number has gone up to 450! Lot of these seem to be X related > packages. > > Does xorg 7.2 have more dependencies, and hence so many ports were installed? As best I can tell, xorg has been reorganized so that instead of a few large ports, it's now a whole bunch of small ports. Theoretically, this should allow faster/easier updating, and eventually allow you to deinstall a lot of xorg that you don't need (for example, drivers for video cards you don't have) -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
