Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
Norberto Meijome ha scritto: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:34:08 +0200 > Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This might be slow as well. >> >>> Section "Extensions" >>> Option "Composite" "Enable" >>> EndSection > > yes, this will DEFINITELY kill your performance. even with 3D accel enabled > on my Radeon M24 X600 composite is quite slow (not as much as with 3d..but > still). > > Sorry for the noise. I solved the problem XAA is enabled, so 2D acceleration is enabled. My system isn't slow, but only Thunderbird and Acroread are slow. Other programs like opera, pidgin, inkscape, abiword, gnumeric, . work without problems at normal speed. TB and Acroread are the programs (with gui) I use the most under FreeBSD. TB is not so slow under XP I will look for alternatives to Thunderbird and Acrobat Reader The composite extension is enabled in xorg but unused in XFCE, so I will disable it in my xorg.conf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:34:08 +0200 Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This might be slow as well. > > > Section "Extensions" > > Option "Composite" "Enable" > > EndSection yes, this will DEFINITELY kill your performance. even with 3D accel enabled on my Radeon M24 X600 composite is quite slow (not as much as with 3d..but still). _ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "He has Van Gogh's ear for music." Billy Wilder I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:10:01PM +0200, Alberto Rizzi wrote: > Roland Smith ha scritto: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:44:21PM +0200, Alberto Rizzi wrote: > >> Ok I know this, but I want 2D acceleration, but without /dev/agpgart I > >> don't have neither 3D nor 2D. > >> Am I right? > > > > Reading radeon(4) it implies that agp is only used when DRI is > > enabled. The AGP options and the BusType option are only used when DRI > > is enabled. It doesn't look like you need AGP for the 2D support. > > > > Roland > My pc is P4 2.4GHz and Radeon 9600XT but Xorg 7.2 with Xfce4 (but also > with wmii or other window manager) is very sloow > > How can I check whether 2D acceleration is active or not? grep Accel /var/log/Xorg.0.log In my case this shows: (**) RADEON(0): Initializing Acceleration (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled > How can I improve performances? > My xorg.conf is You can remove GLcore, and dri, they're not supported on 9600XT yet. > Load "GLcore" > Load "xtrap" > Load "dri" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > EndSection This might be slow as well. > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection According to radeon(4): Option "RenderAccel" "boolean" Enables or disables hardware Render acceleration. This driver does not support component alpha (subpixel) rendering. It is only supported on Radeon series up to and including 9200 (9500/9700 and newer unsupported). The default is to enable Render acceleration. > Section "Device" I think you can remove these five Options, because your hardware doesn't support them. > Option "AGPMode" "8" > Option "AGPFastWrite" "on" > Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" > Option "EnablePageFlip""1" > Option "ColorTiling" "1" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" A couple of years ago, ATI released programming documentation for radeons up to 9250 (rv280). So those are very well supported by Xorg. Documentation for newer models was hard/impossible to obtain for a long time. But recently an open source driver for the r500 chips called xf86-video-avivo was announced, and AMD has committed itself to release open source drivers for ATI cards was well. So you could look for an older 9200 card, or wait for the new drivers. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpMKok612RIy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
Roland Smith ha scritto: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:44:21PM +0200, Alberto Rizzi wrote: >> Ok I know this, but I want 2D acceleration, but without /dev/agpgart I >> don't have neither 3D nor 2D. >> Am I right? > > Reading radeon(4) it implies that agp is only used when DRI is > enabled. The AGP options and the BusType option are only used when DRI > is enabled. It doesn't look like you need AGP for the 2D support. > > Roland My pc is P4 2.4GHz and Radeon 9600XT but Xorg 7.2 with Xfce4 (but also with wmii or other window manager) is very sloow How can I check whether 2D acceleration is active or not? How can I improve performances? My xorg.conf is Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "GLcore" Load "xtrap" Load "dri" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" #Option "XkbRules" "xorg" # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" Option "XkbLayout" "it" # Option "XkbOptions" "eurosign:e" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 320 240 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "VSC" ModelName"E70f-5" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC: # HorizSync30.0 - 72.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Option "AGPMode" "8" Option "AGPFastWrite" "on" Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" Option "EnablePageFlip""1" Option "ColorTiling" "1" Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" # Identifier "Card0" # Driver "ati" # VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" # BoardName "RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]" # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport0 0 Modes "1152x864" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:44:21PM +0200, Alberto Rizzi wrote: > Roland Smith ha scritto: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 11:07:34PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:18:29 +0200 > >> Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Norberto Meijome ha scritto: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:44:12 +0200 > Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have a motherboard with a via PT880 and an agp video card Radeon > > 9600XT > > > > I'm using 6-STABLE with "device agp" in the kernel configuration file > > but the system doesn't create /dev/agpgart device > Hi Alberto, > have you loaded radeon.ko ? > > >>> Now radeon and drm are compiled in the kernel. But I have the same > >>> problem also if radeon and drm are dynamic modules. > >> loading the modules would have done the same as building into it, with > >> no build time :) > >> > >> sorry, I don't know ... so you still dont get any information about > >> the card in dmesg and pciconf still shows the card as none: ... ? > > > > The latest chip that is supported by radeon & drm for 3D accelleration > > is the 9250 aka RV 280. The 9600 is much newer. It is only supported in > > 2D by Xorg's radeon driver. See radeon(4): > > > >RV360 Radeon 9600XT (2d only) > > > > Roland > Ok I know this, but I want 2D acceleration, but without /dev/agpgart I > don't have neither 3D nor 2D. > Am I right? Reading radeon(4) it implies that agp is only used when DRI is enabled. The AGP options and the BusType option are only used when DRI is enabled. It doesn't look like you need AGP for the 2D support. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpFEaZs7Q8kT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
Roland Smith ha scritto: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 11:07:34PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:18:29 +0200 >> Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Norberto Meijome ha scritto: On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:44:12 +0200 Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a motherboard with a via PT880 and an agp video card Radeon 9600XT > > I'm using 6-STABLE with "device agp" in the kernel configuration file > but the system doesn't create /dev/agpgart device Hi Alberto, have you loaded radeon.ko ? >>> Now radeon and drm are compiled in the kernel. But I have the same >>> problem also if radeon and drm are dynamic modules. >> loading the modules would have done the same as building into it, with >> no build time :) >> >> sorry, I don't know ... so you still dont get any information about >> the card in dmesg and pciconf still shows the card as none: ... ? > > The latest chip that is supported by radeon & drm for 3D accelleration > is the 9250 aka RV 280. The 9600 is much newer. It is only supported in > 2D by Xorg's radeon driver. See radeon(4): > >RV360 Radeon 9600XT (2d only) > > Roland Ok I know this, but I want 2D acceleration, but without /dev/agpgart I don't have neither 3D nor 2D. Am I right? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 11:07:34PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:18:29 +0200 > Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Norberto Meijome ha scritto: > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:44:12 +0200 > > > Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> I have a motherboard with a via PT880 and an agp video card Radeon 9600XT > > >> > > >> I'm using 6-STABLE with "device agp" in the kernel configuration file > > >> but the system doesn't create /dev/agpgart device > > > > > > Hi Alberto, > > > have you loaded radeon.ko ? > > > > > Now radeon and drm are compiled in the kernel. But I have the same > > problem also if radeon and drm are dynamic modules. > > loading the modules would have done the same as building into it, with > no build time :) > > sorry, I don't know ... so you still dont get any information about > the card in dmesg and pciconf still shows the card as none: ... ? The latest chip that is supported by radeon & drm for 3D accelleration is the 9250 aka RV 280. The 9600 is much newer. It is only supported in 2D by Xorg's radeon driver. See radeon(4): RV360 Radeon 9600XT (2d only) Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpJslrh6ATZw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:18:29 +0200 Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Norberto Meijome ha scritto: > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:44:12 +0200 > > Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I have a motherboard with a via PT880 and an agp video card Radeon 9600XT > >> > >> I'm using 6-STABLE with "device agp" in the kernel configuration file > >> but the system doesn't create /dev/agpgart device > > > > Hi Alberto, > > have you loaded radeon.ko ? > > > Now radeon and drm are compiled in the kernel. But I have the same > problem also if radeon and drm are dynamic modules. loading the modules would have done the same as building into it, with no build time :) sorry, I don't know ... so you still dont get any information about the card in dmesg and pciconf still shows the card as none: ... ? _ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
Norberto Meijome ha scritto: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:44:12 +0200 > Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have a motherboard with a via PT880 and an agp video card Radeon 9600XT >> >> I'm using 6-STABLE with "device agp" in the kernel configuration file >> but the system doesn't create /dev/agpgart device > > Hi Alberto, > have you loaded radeon.ko ? > Now radeon and drm are compiled in the kernel. But I have the same problem also if radeon and drm are dynamic modules. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Missing /dev/agpgart
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:44:12 +0200 Alberto Rizzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a motherboard with a via PT880 and an agp video card Radeon 9600XT > > I'm using 6-STABLE with "device agp" in the kernel configuration file > but the system doesn't create /dev/agpgart device Hi Alberto, have you loaded radeon.ko ? _ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "Religion is what the common people see als true, the wise see as false, and the rulers see as useful." Seneca I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"