Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On 6/23/11 2:02 PM, Robert Huff wrote: Jerry writes: From URL: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217837/Mozilla_retires_Firefox_4_from_security_support. Obviously users of version 4 will be more or less forced to update to version 5 which is now in the ports system. What amazes me is how quick support was pulled from version 4. My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Robert Huff Just had a pop up saying next time you restart firefox you'll be running v5 , so yes, users are more or less forced ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:02:23 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: Jerry writes: From URL: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217837/Mozilla_retires_Firefox_4_from_security_support. Obviously users of version 4 will be more or less forced to update to version 5 which is now in the ports system. What amazes me is how quick support was pulled from version 4. My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Correct! When Microsoft EOL'd a ten year old OS (XP) the wailing's from certain factions was deafening. Now with Mozilla EOLing a product less than a year old the sounds of silence seem to be propagating. The best part is that many of my add-ons again no longer work. From what I can see in the ports system, and I may be wrong, there is not an option to use the version 4 either although remnants of version 3x seem to still be available. It appears that a user is forced into version 5 from version 4. Wow, and people bitch about Microsoft's update policies. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+f...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 23 07:02:56 2011 From: Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:02:23 -0400 To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support Jerry writes: From URL: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217837/Mozilla_retires_Firefox _4_from_security_support. Obviously users of version 4 will be more or less forced to update to version 5 which is now in the ports system. What amazes me is how quick support was pulled from version 4. My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Quoting Maxwell Smart: Would you believe THREE months ago. current release is 4.0.1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Jerry writes: From URL: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217837/Mozilla_retires_Firefox _4_from_security_support. Obviously users of version 4 will be more or less forced to update to version 5 which is now in the ports system. What amazes me is how quick support was pulled from version 4. My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Quoting Maxwell Smart: Would you believe THREE months ago. current release is 4.0.1 I'm just as confused by this... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
Jerry writes: Obviously users of version 4 will be more or less forced to update to version 5 which is now in the ports system. What amazes me is how quick support was pulled from version 4. My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Correct! When Microsoft EOL'd a ten year old OS (XP) the wailing's from certain factions was deafening. Now with Mozilla EOLing a product less than a year old the sounds of silence seem to be propagating. Which says something about the relative trust levels about Mozilla and Microsoft bringing out a a new .0 of their core product. Robert still using XP Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On 6/23/11 3:10 PM, Robert Huff wrote: Jerry writes: Obviously users of version 4 will be more or less forced to update to version 5 which is now in the ports system. What amazes me is how quick support was pulled from version 4. My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Correct! When Microsoft EOL'd a ten year old OS (XP) the wailing's from certain factions was deafening. Now with Mozilla EOLing a product less than a year old the sounds of silence seem to be propagating. Which says something about the relative trust levels about Mozilla and Microsoft bringing out a a new .0 of their core product. Robert still using XP Huff Well the main difference is, there was a lot of software that would run only on win XP for large companies, internal web applications, home made banking software... With FF, it's just a version bump, addons will get fixed (or not) and that is it. I for one was much more bothered by XP's EOL than I am with FF bumping. Although, I'll give you, I'm as confused as everyone regarding this 4-5 bump, surely they could have done 4.1 or something... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
Damien Fleuriot writes: Although, I'll give you, I'm as confused as everyone regarding this 4-5 bump, surely they could have done 4.1 or something... It is my understanding there are (even more) substantial (than usual) internal changes, particularly relating to HTML v5. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On 23/06/2011 13:02, Robert Huff wrote: My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Much less than a year. V4 came out in April. I'm wondering what the big deal is that Mozilla felt they needed to bump the major version number? There don't seem to have been many user visible changes between 4 and 5, and (only seen momentarily flashing past, so may not be correct) the delta between 4 and 5 that my Mac downloaded was only about 10MB. That doesn't seem to me to add up to the sort of large scale reworking that a major version bump should imply. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
Le 23/06/2011 14:30, Jerry a écrit : On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:02:23 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: Jerry writes: From URL: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217837/Mozilla_retires_Firefox_4_from_security_support. Obviously users of version 4 will be more or less forced to update to version 5 which is now in the ports system. What amazes me is how quick support was pulled from version 4. My morning-fogged mind says Version 4 was out less than a year. Correct! When Microsoft EOL'd a ten year old OS (XP) the wailing's from certain factions was deafening. Now with Mozilla EOLing a product less than a year old the sounds of silence seem to be propagating. The best part is that many of my add-ons again no longer work. From what I can see in the ports system, and I may be wrong, there is not an option to use the version 4 either although remnants of version 3x seem to still be available. It appears that a user is forced into version 5 from version 4. Wow, and people bitch about Microsoft's update policies. The major difference is that when updating Microsoft's OS from a major version to another you have to pay. I'm not flaming, I just want to focus on the fact that this products have not the same constraints. What is surprising is why it is not a 4.1 release, I'm not following Firefox development but I'm surprised how fast they've gone from a major release to another. What has been changed in FF 5 that needs this release number change ? -- Bastien Semene Administrateur Réseau Système Cyanide Studio - FRANCE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On 6/23/2011 8:08 AM, Admin Cyanide wrote: The major difference is that when updating Microsoft's OS from a major version to another you have to pay. I'm not flaming, I just want to focus on the fact that this products have not the same constraints. What is surprising is why it is not a 4.1 release, I'm not following Firefox development but I'm surprised how fast they've gone from a major release to another. What has been changed in FF 5 that needs this release number change ? Blame Chrome. Just like there was no Netscape 5 because of IE6, the version number is marketing to make it look like Firefox is updating more often and faster than competitors. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: On 6/23/2011 8:08 AM, Admin Cyanide wrote: The major difference is that when updating Microsoft's OS from a major version to another you have to pay. I'm not flaming, I just want to focus on the fact that this products have not the same constraints. What is surprising is why it is not a 4.1 release, I'm not following Firefox development but I'm surprised how fast they've gone from a major release to another. What has been changed in FF 5 that needs this release number change ? Blame Chrome. Just like there was no Netscape 5 because of IE6, the version number is marketing to make it look like Firefox is updating more often and faster than competitors. IMO Netscrape 6 was no better than IE6 :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:08:39 +0200 Admin Cyanide articulated: The major difference is that when updating Microsoft's OS from a major version to another you have to pay. I'm not flaming, I just want to focus on the fact that this products have not the same constraints. We were, or at least I was under the impression we were, discussion web browsers. Microsoft and Mozilla both made significant changes in the browsers before bumping the major version number. In this particular instance, it appears that has not happened. What really bothers me is that they EOL'd the version 4 virtually without warning after only a few months. I have never seen Microsoft or Google EOL a product that quickly. It might have been nice to keep the version 4 available for users who find version 5 unsuitable for whatever reason. Microsoft even keeps IE-5 (although I don't know why) available for download. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+f...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
Why not take this discussion to freebsd-chat? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
Hi all, Now the different versions of Firefox are : - Release (version) - Aurora (version +1) - Nightly (version +2) With this roadmap, you don't care with the version number of the release. There will be only one, not like before with 3.6.x, 3.5.x ... I think this is really more easy. You will stay with your release version of Firefox and that's all. You just have to upgrade when needed. Mozilla can spend energy to develop it software, not to maintain an older version whose performance (or other) are deprecated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
Quoth Jerry on Thursday, 23 June 2011: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:02:23 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: snip The best part is that many of my add-ons again no longer work. From what I can see in the ports system, and I may be wrong, there is not an option to use the version 4 either although remnants of version 3x seem to still be available. It appears that a user is forced into version 5 from version 4. Wow, and people bitch about Microsoft's update policies. Yes, Pentadactyl for one. Upgrading to its nightly build version makes it work, sort of. Looks like text fields no longer scroll properly. This is taking the Google-led trend of beta is the new release to extremes. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgp5xOHXU503B.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:25:16 -0700 Chip Camden articulated: Yes, Pentadactyl for one. Upgrading to its nightly build version makes it work, sort of. Looks like text fields no longer scroll properly. This is taking the Google-led trend of beta is the new release to extremes. Google and its, BETA-4-EVER concept is one I would not like to see instituted. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+f...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html signature.asc Description: PGP signature
