Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Torbjorn Granlund
Matthias Gamsjager mgamsja...@gmail.com writes:

  
   The Supermicro controllers listed by FreeBSD as supported seem to be
   rebranded Adaptec controllers, and they are therefore also disqualified.
  
  
  The supermicro usas-l8i
  http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm
  uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under
  FB8.1
  
Thanks.

Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since
they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards.

(I have a Tyan S8005.)

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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Matthias Gamsjager

 The Supermicro controllers listed by FreeBSD as supported seem to be
 rebranded Adaptec controllers, and they are therefore also disqualified.


The supermicro usas-l8i
http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm
uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under
FB8.1
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Matthias Gamsjager

 Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since
 they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards.

 (I have a Tyan S8005.)

 --
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Well it's just the bracket. You can unmount it and replace it with
another bracket. The card is up side down thats true but thats all.
Works in every pci-e 8 slot. You can order a replacement bracket for
couple of bucks.
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Matthias Gamsjager
mgamsja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since
 they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards.

 (I have a Tyan S8005.)

 --
 Torbjörn

 Well it's just the bracket. You can unmount it and replace it with
 another bracket. The card is up side down thats true but thats all.
 Works in every pci-e 8 slot. You can order a replacement bracket for
 couple of bucks.

The bracket I was talking about:
http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-disc...@opensolaris.org/msg38227.html
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Jason Fortezzo
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:20:39AM +0200, Matthias Gamsjager wrote:
 The supermicro usas-l8i
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm
 uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under
 FB8.1

FYI, I bought one for my Supermicro X7SB3 motherboard and it didn't work.
I had to end up buying an Intel SASUC8I which is just an OEM LSI
SAS3081E-R.

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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Eduardo
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:48:26 +0200
Torbjorn Granlund t...@gmplib.org wrote:

 Matthias Gamsjager mgamsja...@gmail.com writes:
 
   
The Supermicro controllers listed by FreeBSD as supported seem to
be rebranded Adaptec controllers, and they are therefore also
disqualified.
   
   
   The supermicro usas-l8i
   http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm
   uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under
   FB8.1
   
 Thanks.
 
 Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since
 they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards.
 
 (I have a Tyan S8005.)
 

Don't know why they do that. But be careful because HTX/HNC
(Hypertransport) connections are the same as PCIe but reversed
and incompatible, check it before plugin anything.

HTX is used to connect 2 motherboards via hypertransport (up to 51.2
GB/sec for now), connect expansion cards, etc...
 
http://www.hypertransport.org/

http://www.hypertransport.org/default.cfm?page=ProductsHTXProducts

HTH
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Matthias Gamsjager

 FYI, I bought one for my Supermicro X7SB3 motherboard and it didn't work.
 I had to end up buying an Intel SASUC8I which is just an OEM LSI
 SAS3081E-

hmm strange because I have one running right here with the MPT driver.
even mptutils works with it.
And if you google it then you will find couple of positive reactions.
Check the freebsd forums.
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
 Don't know why they do that. But be careful because HTX/HNC
 (Hypertransport) connections are the same as PCIe but reversed
 and incompatible, check it before plugin anything.

 HTX is used to connect 2 motherboards via hypertransport (up to 51.2
 GB/sec for now), connect expansion cards, etc...

Well I think most users will see what is a HTX slot and what is a
pci-e8 slot. And if you dont then check your motherboard manual.
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-08 Thread Eduardo
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:22:24 +0200
Matthias Gamsjager mgamsja...@gmail.com wrote:

  Don't know why they do that. But be careful because HTX/HNC
  (Hypertransport) connections are the same as PCIe but reversed
  and incompatible, check it before plugin anything.
 
  HTX is used to connect 2 motherboards via hypertransport (up to 51.2
  GB/sec for now), connect expansion cards, etc...
 
 Well I think most users will see what is a HTX slot and what is a
 pci-e8 slot. And if you dont then check your motherboard manual.


I thought he doesn't know HTX slots exists and how are them, because
he said since they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal
PCIe cards. He can shortcircuit/damage something if plugin a pcie
card, so i advise him.

But you are right, if in doubt read the manual.
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-07 Thread Andrea Venturoli

Il 09/07/10 20:26, Torbjorn Granlund ha scritto:

Is the any PCIe SAS controller that is supported by FreeBSD 8.1 that I
can purchase today?  The controller should preferably be low-profile.
RAID is not needed since I have just one disk, but if only RAID
controllers are available, I can live with that.


I have never seen a non-RAID SAS controller in my life: notice I'm not 
saying mean they don't exist, but everyone I used was RAID capable.

That said, I'm using:

Adaptec SAS RAID 3405
a...@pci0:2:14:0:   class=0x010400 card=0x02bb9005 chip=0x02859005 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Adaptec Inc'
device = 'AAC-RAID RAID Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID


Adaptec SAS RAID 3805
a...@pci0:4:14:0:   class=0x010400 card=0x02bc9005 chip=0x02859005 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Adaptec Inc'
device = 'AAC-RAID RAID Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID


Intel SRCSASJV
m...@pci0:2:0:0:class=0x010400 card=0x10068086 chip=0x00601000 
rev=0x04 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
device = 'SAS1078 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID


I've also used a couple of HPs in the past: I think it was a P400, but I 
don't have access to those machines any more.



Never had any problems with any of these; only note: I could not get 
access to HP management via FreeBSD, but things might possibly have 
changed since then.


N.B. I'm using 7.x, but I see no reason why 8.1 should be more troublesome.



 bye
av.
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Re: Need supported SAS controller

2010-09-07 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 09/07/2010 02:46 PM, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
 Il 09/07/10 20:26, Torbjorn Granlund ha scritto:
 Is the any PCIe SAS controller that is supported by FreeBSD 8.1 that I
 can purchase today?  The controller should preferably be low-profile.
 RAID is not needed since I have just one disk, but if only RAID
 controllers are available, I can live with that.
 
 I have never seen a non-RAID SAS controller in my life: notice I'm not
 saying mean they don't exist, but everyone I used was RAID capable.

I'm currently using a Perc5i PCIe 2-port SAS controller in production on
7.2-RELEASE amd64. It's whatever came with the Dell PowerEdge 1950 I'm
running, and it's been rock-solid; no RAID capabilities at all, but
hosts a gmirror just fine. It identifies as such:

m...@pci0:2:8:0:class=0x01 card=0x1f061028 chip=0x00541000
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
device = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with 1068 -StorPort'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SCSI

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