Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
Quoting Chris rac...@makeworld.com: Outstanding, thank you. Curious though, how is Gnome looking these days (meaning, is it v3 or 2.x). I have read of the craziness of 3 and the introduction of Unity (albeit that is ubuntu). If 3 is used (or when) I assume it would be closer to what I currently have under Sid (and that would be ok) or even 2.x As far as I can see, it's 2.xx, or to be more precise: http://www.freshports.org/x11/gnome2/ By the way: freshports is a good way to check beforehand what ports are available and in which versions ;) Nonetheless, thanks for the info. I'll have time tomorrow to read up a bit and perhaps next time I post, it'll be under 9 Good luck :) Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 12:10 am Subject: Possible move back to FreeBSD To: Chris rac...@makeworld.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Chris rac...@makeworld.com wrote: I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). If someone would suggest the material to read and perhaps a synopsis of the process, I would be happy to do the leg work. freebsd-update(1) and pkgng should get you to relative feature parity w/ Debian. However pkgng just entered beta, and likely won't make it into the base system anytime soon. That being said, beta testers are wanted and it's largely functional. /usr/ports/UPDATING is still the standard method along with a ports managment tool of your choice eg portmaster(1). -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Chris wrote: Hi I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). If someone would suggest the material to read and perhaps a synopsis of the process, I would be happy to do the leg work. TIA Chris Hey Chris, Good to see you again after all this time. I always found the port fetch process dead easy for keeping things up to date. I honestly doubt much has changed since you last used FreeBSD. However I've been playing around with PC-BSD and their PBI system to be pretty good. Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
Hi, On Friday 03 February 2012 12:34:57 Chris wrote: Hi I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). how about pkg_add? It installs a binary version of the port directly on your machine. As long as the binary exists, there is no problem. I experienced in very rare cases that a package was not available at the moment I needed at the server I used for downloading. Then, I used the ports as a backup. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
Allow me to apologize for top posting. I am familliar with pkg_add. I guess I'm more concerned with updating userland when sec fixes ate released. Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 11:44 pm Subject: Possible move back to FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Chris rac...@makeworld.com Hi, On Friday 03 February 2012 12:34:57 Chris wrote: Hi I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). how about pkg_add? It installs a binary version of the port directly on your machine. As long as the binary exists, there is no problem. I experienced in very rare cases that a package was not available at the moment I needed at the server I used for downloading. Then, I used the ports as a backup. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
Heya Mikel! Yeah, its been a spell. Lookin to climb back onboard. Talk soon. Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 11:40 pm Subject: Possible move back to FreeBSD To: Chris rac...@makeworld.com Cc: FreeBSD questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Chris wrote: Hi I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). If someone would suggest the material to read and perhaps a synopsis of the process, I would be happy to do the leg work. TIA Chris Hey Chris, Good to see you again after all this time. I always found the port fetch process dead easy for keeping things up to date. I honestly doubt much has changed since you last used FreeBSD. However I've been playing around with PC-BSD and their PBI system to be pretty good. Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
Hi, On Friday 03 February 2012 12:49:41 Chris wrote: Allow me to apologize for top posting. where should be the problem? I am familliar with pkg_add. I guess I'm more concerned with updating userland when sec fixes ate released. portupgrade -P or -PP will do the job then. Erich Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 11:44 pm Subject: Possible move back to FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Chris rac...@makeworld.com Hi, On Friday 03 February 2012 12:34:57 Chris wrote: Hi I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). how about pkg_add? It installs a binary version of the port directly on your machine. As long as the binary exists, there is no problem. I experienced in very rare cases that a package was not available at the moment I needed at the server I used for downloading. Then, I used the ports as a backup. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Chris rac...@makeworld.com wrote: I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). If someone would suggest the material to read and perhaps a synopsis of the process, I would be happy to do the leg work. freebsd-update(1) and pkgng should get you to relative feature parity w/ Debian. However pkgng just entered beta, and likely won't make it into the base system anytime soon. That being said, beta testers are wanted and it's largely functional. /usr/ports/UPDATING is still the standard method along with a ports managment tool of your choice eg portmaster(1). -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Possible move back to FreeBSD
Outstanding, thank you. Curious though, how is Gnome looking these days (meaning, is it v3 or 2.x). I have read of the craziness of 3 and the introduction of Unity (albeit that is ubuntu). If 3 is used (or when) I assume it would be closer to what I currently have under Sid (and that would be ok) or even 2.x Nonetheless, thanks for the info. I'll have time tomorrow to read up a bit and perhaps next time I post, it'll be under 9 Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 12:10 am Subject: Possible move back to FreeBSD To: Chris rac...@makeworld.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Chris rac...@makeworld.com wrote: I have been using Debian for a few years now (previous BSD user) and I'm considering moving back. Admittedly, I have gotten used to the simplicity of using apt-get to update the system. What will pull me back is if there is an equivalent to use. I do not intend on custom kernels, and I don't intend on using ports (it was the many hours spent keeping the ports tree current along with installed ports). If someone would suggest the material to read and perhaps a synopsis of the process, I would be happy to do the leg work. freebsd-update(1) and pkgng should get you to relative feature parity w/ Debian. However pkgng just entered beta, and likely won't make it into the base system anytime soon. That being said, beta testers are wanted and it's largely functional. /usr/ports/UPDATING is still the standard method along with a ports managment tool of your choice eg portmaster(1). -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
