Re: Problems with sr driver and Wanic 400

2006-11-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: John L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with sr driver and Wanic 400


  What I found works is freebsd 4.x, and a Pentium 2 350-400Mhz
  this was using risecom n/2 cards.
 
  FreeBSD 6.1 doesen't work at any speed in this combo, it loses
  packets.

 Phoo.  Does the pf or ipfw/altq stuff work on 4.x?

Yes, but I don't know if it has all the features you want.

 I'm currently runing
 an ISA n/2 in an old BSD/OS box which works fine except that it can't do
 priority queueing, and I have some voip phones that would benefit.

  With Cisco 1601's selling on the used market for $25 or so, there's
  little interest among the developers in fixing this.  Also the wanic 4xx
  is no longer in production, another disincentive.

 Hmmn.  I think I have a Wanic 500 around that I bought on ebay.  Any
 support for those?

I've got a driver for this card that I was sent by Imagestream, they got it
from one of their developer/customers.  It's for something like FreeBSD 4.9
or 4.3, I can't remember which.  It will not compile unmodified on FreeBSD
4.11
Supposedly the programming docs for the chipset used on the WanIC 500 are
only available under NDA, so without clear direction from Imagestream
the driver would probably not be able to be distributed publically.  I never
signed an NDA, though.

The best bet for current support for these cards is to use Linux, you will
get plenty of support from Imagestream, then.

Unfortunately this is a market where the few manufacturers of synchronous
serial port chipsets - Hitachi, etc. - only have a handful of router vendors
(like Cisco, etc.) that regularly buy these chipsets.  The router vendors
are
faced with a shrinking market for these chips since more people are going to
DSL and such rather than T1s and they don't want to see an upstart
competitor
take away business, so all of them are pressuring the chipset manufacturers
to
be very sparing on providing documentation to anyone else.

Ted

  Or should I just make my BSD box ether to ether and
 sit a Cisco on top of it?

 Tnx.

 R's,
 John


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Re: Problems with sr driver and Wanic 400

2006-11-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
What I found works is freebsd 4.x, and a Pentium 2 350-400Mhz
this was using risecom n/2 cards.

FreeBSD 6.1 doesen't work at any speed in this combo, it loses
packets.

It's a driver bug, the sr driver needs a rethink of it's buffer
structures.

also, there's a bug with the wanic 2 port cards that isn't present
in the risecom/n2 2 port cards, they drop characters when both ports
are active.

With Cisco 1601's selling on the used market for $25 or so, there's
little interest among the developers in fixing this.  Also the wanic 4xx
is no longer in production, another disincentive.

It would be interesting benchmarking this with Imagestream's
Linux-only drivers.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: John Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:37 AM
Subject: Problems with sr driver and Wanic 400


 I'm trying to put together a freebsd 6.1 T1 router with an old PC and
 a Wanic 400 card I bought on ebay.  I'm using the sr driver netgraph,
 mpd, and pf with altq, since I want to do priority routing for some
 voip phones.

 It all works fine until the t1 gets busy, e.g., if I do a wget on
 the router, and which point it starts complaining about TX overruns
 and the traffic on the wanic stops.  Any suggestions?

 The PC is pretty slow, and one thought is that I also have an old
 SDL RISCom/N2 ISA card which is slower than the wanic.  Is that
 likely to work more reliably?  Speed isn't much of an issue on a
 single t1 and yes, the PC is old enough that it has ISA slots.

 R's,
 John
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Re: Problems with sr driver and Wanic 400

2006-11-12 Thread John L

What I found works is freebsd 4.x, and a Pentium 2 350-400Mhz
this was using risecom n/2 cards.

FreeBSD 6.1 doesen't work at any speed in this combo, it loses
packets.


Phoo.  Does the pf or ipfw/altq stuff work on 4.x?  I'm currently runing 
an ISA n/2 in an old BSD/OS box which works fine except that it can't do 
priority queueing, and I have some voip phones that would benefit.



With Cisco 1601's selling on the used market for $25 or so, there's
little interest among the developers in fixing this.  Also the wanic 4xx
is no longer in production, another disincentive.


Hmmn.  I think I have a Wanic 500 around that I bought on ebay.  Any 
support for those?  Or should I just make my BSD box ether to ether and 
sit a Cisco on top of it?


Tnx.

R's,
John
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