Re: Restarting hal
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:25:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > Just trying to point out the options, and that a one-line change in > xorg.conf is lower impact than rebuilding xorg-server. That's of course very useful knowledge. > > There are other "workarounds" to get the default stuff working again > > (option Don't-Zap for example), so X installations relying on > > xorg.conf can work again. > > Since some defaults have changed in newer versions of xorg, that last > sentence is confusing. Maybe > >s/default stuff working again/legacy behavior/ >s/work/work as expected/ Much better terminology. :-) But as you will agree, for specific problems, new ways have been introduced, for example "Where do I set the german keyboard layout?" when wanting to use HAL + DBUS in order to get automounting of removable media working better. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:41:38AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:39 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > > Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've > > ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set > > up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a > > lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. > > I'm sure it works very well on up-to-date hardware, but on > older hardware, where all the autodetect magic won't work > properly, problems may occur. I'm going to install FBSD 7 on a PII in a few weeks. We'll see how that goes. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:56:17 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" should disable hal devices even if xorg-server has been built with hal. I'm aware of this. Just trying to point out the options, and that a one-line change in xorg.conf is lower impact than rebuilding xorg-server. There are other "workarounds" to get the default stuff working again (option Don't-Zap for example), so X installations relying on xorg.conf can work again. Since some defaults have changed in newer versions of xorg, that last sentence is confusing. Maybe s/default stuff working again/legacy behavior/ s/work/work as expected/ -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:56:17 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" should disable hal devices even if > xorg-server has been built with hal. I'm aware of this. There are other "workarounds" to get the default stuff working again (option Don't-Zap for example), so X installations relying on xorg.conf can work again. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:39 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. I'm sure it works very well on up-to-date hardware, but on older hardware, where all the autodetect magic won't work properly, problems may occur. Furthermore, if you need to have a "non-standard" keyboard layout, e. g. the german one, this has to be set in a different place now. As far as I know, HAL and DBUS, along with FreeBSD 8, work very well for different automounting scenarios (CD, DVD, USB). Soon I will encounter the joy of the new X modularity and dependencies. :-) It's still worth mentioning that it's possible to run X in the "old fashioned" way, but DBUS and HAL have to be excluded at compile time. Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" should disable hal devices even if xorg-server has been built with hal. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:39 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've > ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set > up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a > lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. I'm sure it works very well on up-to-date hardware, but on older hardware, where all the autodetect magic won't work properly, problems may occur. Furthermore, if you need to have a "non-standard" keyboard layout, e. g. the german one, this has to be set in a different place now. As far as I know, HAL and DBUS, along with FreeBSD 8, work very well for different automounting scenarios (CD, DVD, USB). Soon I will encounter the joy of the new X modularity and dependencies. :-) It's still worth mentioning that it's possible to run X in the "old fashioned" way, but DBUS and HAL have to be excluded at compile time. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:57:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:43:50 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > > Is there a way to get hal to reload its > > configuration withou rebooting? I've tried sending a HUP signal and I've > > tried "rc.d/hal restart", but so far rebooting is the only thing that > > works properly. > > Maybe it's neccessary to restart DBUS as well - just a wild > guess, Yea, someone already e-mailed me and suggested I restart dbus along with hal. I've just recently made the switch to Xorg and I'm still a bit fuzzy about how things interrelate , so it hadn't occurred to me to restart dbus when I reconfigured hal. > im not using DBUS or HAL because I like my X working. :-) Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. Thanks for your response. It's great that there are so many helpful people on this list. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:43:50 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > Is there a way to get hal to reload its > configuration withou rebooting? I've tried sending a HUP signal and I've > tried "rc.d/hal restart", but so far rebooting is the only thing that > works properly. Maybe it's neccessary to restart DBUS as well - just a wild guess, im not using DBUS or HAL because I like my X working. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
