Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Chris Pressey
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:33:50 -0500
Philippe Vachon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Still, nobody has any clues as to what the problem could be? I've
> loaded just snd_sbc and just snd_oss and even the "compressed" sound
> thing doesn't occur.

Sorry.  The only thing I can think to suggest is to try to reproduce it
on 5.2.1 (or 4.9) if possible.

-Chris
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Philippe Vachon
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

Chris Pressey wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:25:20 -0500
Philippe Vachon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

As I said before, the sound is compressed -- not in the data sense,
but rather in the analogue sense where the wavelength of a waveform 
decreases, as does the period. I appologize if I had confused you, but
I'm not a Software Engineer -- merely a lowly Electrical Engineering 
Student. :)
  


Off topic, but in hopes of clearing up the terminology at least, this is
what "compressed" means for audio engineers:
 http://www.flashbacksales.co.uk/articles/compression.htm

I doubt you're experiencing this... I think you mean your audio is
simply sped up?
 

At the risk of going far enough OT
to be banned, there are two types
of audio compression.  One is amplitude
adjustment, as it were, and another
is "time compression" (yes, check out
some multitracking software), so it's
possible to use the term in the sense
he's using it, but it's a tad, what, {arcane}
unless you're producing hip-hop records
Maybe we should recommend getting
a slower processor? :D :D
KDK
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Haha...the CPU is already slow enough for my tastes.

Still, nobody has any clues as to what the problem could be? I've loaded 
just snd_sbc and just snd_oss and even the "compressed" sound thing 
doesn't occur.

Thanks.
Phil.
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Chris Pressey wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:25:20 -0500
Philippe Vachon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

As I said before, the sound is compressed -- not in the data sense,
but rather in the analogue sense where the wavelength of a waveform 
decreases, as does the period. I appologize if I had confused you, but
I'm not a Software Engineer -- merely a lowly Electrical Engineering 
Student. :)
   

Off topic, but in hopes of clearing up the terminology at least, this is
what "compressed" means for audio engineers:
 http://www.flashbacksales.co.uk/articles/compression.htm

I doubt you're experiencing this... I think you mean your audio is
simply sped up?
 

At the risk of going far enough OT
to be banned, there are two types
of audio compression.  One is amplitude
adjustment, as it were, and another
is "time compression" (yes, check out
some multitracking software), so it's
possible to use the term in the sense
he's using it, but it's a tad, what, {arcane}
unless you're producing hip-hop records
Maybe we should recommend getting
a slower processor? :D :D
KDK
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Chris Pressey
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:25:20 -0500
Philippe Vachon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As I said before, the sound is compressed -- not in the data sense,
> but rather in the analogue sense where the wavelength of a waveform 
> decreases, as does the period. I appologize if I had confused you, but
> I'm not a Software Engineer -- merely a lowly Electrical Engineering 
> Student. :)

Off topic, but in hopes of clearing up the terminology at least, this is
what "compressed" means for audio engineers:

  http://www.flashbacksales.co.uk/articles/compression.htm

I doubt you're experiencing this... I think you mean your audio is
simply sped up?

> I'm not quite sure what you mean by outdated - does FreeBSD go with
> the Linux Kernel release numbers - odd for development, even for
> stable - or am I missing something, because uname-a tells me I'm
> running 5.1-RELEASE.

5.x are technology preview releases.  The latest in the 5.x branch is
5.2.1.  Odd/even means nothing to FreeBSD release engineering.  See

  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html

for more information.

-Chris
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Philippe Vachon wrote:

Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Philippe Vachon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

I just subscribed to the list, but I've been using FreeBSD on and off
for a few months now. There has, however, been one thing lacking from
my FreeBSD setup and that is the ability to play sound!
  


Do bear in mind that you are running an outdated version of an "early
adopter's" release of the OS. 
 

I followed the directions in the handbook (namely adding the line to
load the snd_ab16.ko kernel module to loader.conf) and adjusted the
  


Nowhere in the handbook is the snd_sb16.ko module even mentioned.  
Did you try just loading the snd_pcm.ko module?

 

volume. The sound, when it does play, is compressed -- i.e. runs at 10
times the speed it should. I can't even play any audio with XMMS.
  


That's not what "compressed" normally means in relation to audio.
What did you use to play audio besides xmms?  Did something different 
happen when you used xmms, or was that just
awkward phrasing?

 

Anybody have any ideas? It's a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA card
(model CT4180), and it's in a PIII450 box with an ASUS P2BF
motherboard. Any help will be appreciated.
  


I have such a card (probably not *quite* the same model) in my -STABLE
box...
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I did try loading just the snd_pcm module, which did nothing. 
SoundBlaster cards need a bridge, as far as I can tell, to the PCM 
driver. That's where the snd_sbc and snd_sb16 kernel modules come in.

I had used more than just XMMS -- I used cdcontrol (making sure the 
volume was turned up on the analogue CD input), which didn't play 
audio at all, as was the case with XMMS. When I tried using 
applications that use sound (i.e. Gaim), the sound was compressed 
(sped up if you will).

As I said before, the sound is compressed -- not in the data sense, 
but rather in the analogue sense where the wavelength of a waveform 
decreases, as does the period. I appologize if I had confused you, but 
I'm not a Software Engineer -- merely a lowly Electrical Engineering 
Student. :)

I'm not quite sure what you mean by outdated - does FreeBSD go with 
the Linux Kernel release numbers - odd for development, even for 
stable - or am I missing something, because uname-a tells me I'm 
running 5.1-RELEASE.

Thanks.
Phil V.


Nothing to do with the Linux crowd ;-),
it's just that 5.1-RELEASE was what,
October?  And it's an "experimental" or
at least "New Technology" (~'beta'?)
release ... so you really should try and
stay up to date as much as possible
to see if the issues you are having
have been resolved.
Kevin Kinsey

PS> See the "Early Adopter's
Guide" perhaps
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Philippe Vachon
Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Philippe Vachon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

I just subscribed to the list, but I've been using FreeBSD on and off
for a few months now. There has, however, been one thing lacking from
my FreeBSD setup and that is the ability to play sound!
   

Do bear in mind that you are running an outdated version of an "early
adopter's" release of the OS.  

 

I followed the directions in the handbook (namely adding the line to
load the snd_ab16.ko kernel module to loader.conf) and adjusted the
   

Nowhere in the handbook is the snd_sb16.ko module even mentioned.  
Did you try just loading the snd_pcm.ko module?

 

volume. The sound, when it does play, is compressed -- i.e. runs at 10
times the speed it should. I can't even play any audio with XMMS.
   

That's not what "compressed" normally means in relation to audio.
What did you use to play audio besides xmms?  
Did something different happen when you used xmms, or was that just
awkward phrasing?

 

Anybody have any ideas? It's a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA card
(model CT4180), and it's in a PIII450 box with an ASUS P2BF
motherboard. Any help will be appreciated.
   

I have such a card (probably not *quite* the same model) in my -STABLE
box...
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I did try loading just the snd_pcm module, which did nothing. 
SoundBlaster cards need a bridge, as far as I can tell, to the PCM 
driver. That's where the snd_sbc and snd_sb16 kernel modules come in.

I had used more than just XMMS -- I used cdcontrol (making sure the 
volume was turned up on the analogue CD input), which didn't play audio 
at all, as was the case with XMMS. When I tried using applications that 
use sound (i.e. Gaim), the sound was compressed (sped up if you will).

As I said before, the sound is compressed -- not in the data sense, but 
rather in the analogue sense where the wavelength of a waveform 
decreases, as does the period. I appologize if I had confused you, but 
I'm not a Software Engineer -- merely a lowly Electrical Engineering 
Student. :)

I'm not quite sure what you mean by outdated - does FreeBSD go with the 
Linux Kernel release numbers - odd for development, even for stable - or 
am I missing something, because uname-a tells me I'm running 5.1-RELEASE.

Thanks.
Phil V.
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread dave
Hello,
In my /boot/loader.conf file i have:
snd_sb16_load="YES"
and that was all i needed to do. Aside from that you might need a volume
control prog.
HTH
Dave.

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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Philippe Vachon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just subscribed to the list, but I've been using FreeBSD on and off
> for a few months now. There has, however, been one thing lacking from
> my FreeBSD setup and that is the ability to play sound!

Do bear in mind that you are running an outdated version of an "early
adopter's" release of the OS.  

> I followed the directions in the handbook (namely adding the line to
> load the snd_ab16.ko kernel module to loader.conf) and adjusted the

Nowhere in the handbook is the snd_sb16.ko module even mentioned.  
Did you try just loading the snd_pcm.ko module?

> volume. The sound, when it does play, is compressed -- i.e. runs at 10
> times the speed it should. I can't even play any audio with XMMS.

That's not what "compressed" normally means in relation to audio.
What did you use to play audio besides xmms?  
Did something different happen when you used xmms, or was that just
awkward phrasing?

> Anybody have any ideas? It's a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA card
> (model CT4180), and it's in a PIII450 box with an ASUS P2BF
> motherboard. Any help will be appreciated.

I have such a card (probably not *quite* the same model) in my -STABLE
box...
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Philippe Vachon
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

Philippe Vachon wrote:

Hey.
I guess I was trying my best to avoid having to recompile the Kernel, 
and stick with the stock kernel in 5.1. Are there any alternatives to 
recompiling?

Thanks.

Phil V.

Jorn Argelo wrote:

Do you have the following kernel options compiled in your kernel?

device  pcm
device  sbc
I believe you don't need a soundblaster kernel module then, but I am 
not sure.

Cheers,

Jorn

On Friday 27 February 2004 17:41, Philippe Vachon wrote:
 

Hey Folks.
I just subscribed to the list, but I've been using FreeBSD on and off
for a few months now. There has, however, been one thing lacking 
from my
FreeBSD setup and that is the ability to play sound!

I followed the directions in the handbook (namely adding the line to
load the snd_ab16.ko kernel module to loader.conf) and adjusted the
volume. The sound, when it does play, is compressed -- i.e. runs at 10
times the speed it should. I can't even play any audio with XMMS.
Anybody have any ideas? It's a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA card
(model CT4180), and it's in a PIII450 box with an ASUS P2BF 
motherboard.
Any help will be appreciated.




There is a *long* list of loadable modules in
/boot/kernel/ ... check out the ones that have
snd* in the title.
Then, $man kldload.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
Thanks for the advice -- I've already checked there, as per the 
instructions in the handbook. That's why I have the line
snd_sb16_load="YES"
in my loader.conf, as per the directions in the handbook, and told to me 
by many on the #freebsd channel on freenode.

I do get sound playing, however, the problem is, wherenever I do get 
sound playing, the time is compressed -- it plays 10 times (or even 
more) faster than it should be.

It's annoying, I guess, because I easily enough was able to get OSS to 
work with Linux kernel 2.4.x and ALSA in the 2.6.x kernel on this 
computer, but I still cannot for the life of me get the FreeBSD kernel 
to play audio on this computer. :(

Thanks,
Phil
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Philippe Vachon wrote:

Hey.
I guess I was trying my best to avoid having to recompile the Kernel, 
and stick with the stock kernel in 5.1. Are there any alternatives to 
recompiling?

Thanks.

Phil V.

Jorn Argelo wrote:

Do you have the following kernel options compiled in your kernel?

device  pcm
device  sbc
I believe you don't need a soundblaster kernel module then, but I am 
not sure.

Cheers,

Jorn

On Friday 27 February 2004 17:41, Philippe Vachon wrote:
 

Hey Folks.
I just subscribed to the list, but I've been using FreeBSD on and off
for a few months now. There has, however, been one thing lacking 
from my
FreeBSD setup and that is the ability to play sound!

I followed the directions in the handbook (namely adding the line to
load the snd_ab16.ko kernel module to loader.conf) and adjusted the
volume. The sound, when it does play, is compressed -- i.e. runs at 10
times the speed it should. I can't even play any audio with XMMS.
Anybody have any ideas? It's a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA card
(model CT4180), and it's in a PIII450 box with an ASUS P2BF 
motherboard.
Any help will be appreciated.



There is a *long* list of loadable modules in
/boot/kernel/ ... check out the ones that have
snd* in the title.
Then, $man kldload.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Philippe Vachon
Hey.
I guess I was trying my best to avoid having to recompile the Kernel, 
and stick with the stock kernel in 5.1. Are there any alternatives to 
recompiling?

Thanks.

Phil V.

Jorn Argelo wrote:

Do you have the following kernel options compiled in your kernel?

device  pcm
device  sbc
I believe you don't need a soundblaster kernel module then, but I am not sure.

Cheers,

Jorn

On Friday 27 February 2004 17:41, Philippe Vachon wrote:
 

Hey Folks.
I just subscribed to the list, but I've been using FreeBSD on and off
for a few months now. There has, however, been one thing lacking from my
FreeBSD setup and that is the ability to play sound!
I followed the directions in the handbook (namely adding the line to
load the snd_ab16.ko kernel module to loader.conf) and adjusted the
volume. The sound, when it does play, is compressed -- i.e. runs at 10
times the speed it should. I can't even play any audio with XMMS.
Anybody have any ideas? It's a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA card
(model CT4180), and it's in a PIII450 box with an ASUS P2BF motherboard.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
Phil V.
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Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA Card on 5.1

2004-02-27 Thread Jorn Argelo
Do you have the following kernel options compiled in your kernel?

device  pcm
device  sbc

I believe you don't need a soundblaster kernel module then, but I am not sure.

Cheers,

Jorn

On Friday 27 February 2004 17:41, Philippe Vachon wrote:
> Hey Folks.
> I just subscribed to the list, but I've been using FreeBSD on and off
> for a few months now. There has, however, been one thing lacking from my
> FreeBSD setup and that is the ability to play sound!
>
> I followed the directions in the handbook (namely adding the line to
> load the snd_ab16.ko kernel module to loader.conf) and adjusted the
> volume. The sound, when it does play, is compressed -- i.e. runs at 10
> times the speed it should. I can't even play any audio with XMMS.
>
> Anybody have any ideas? It's a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PnP ISA card
> (model CT4180), and it's in a PIII450 box with an ASUS P2BF motherboard.
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Phil V.
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