Re: Stupid vinum questions

2003-12-11 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > 3) Is there some fine manual around, that could be used as a
> >starting point for reading? (I had a look at at my copy of
> >"The Complete FreeBSD", but I guess I wouldn't ask these
> >questions, if I had understood it.)
>
> Maybe it would be a good start to say what you didn't understand in
> the book.  That way I can fix it for other people too.
Please bear in mind some problems might be caused by the simple
fact that English isn't my native language -  you can't do too
much about that.
But generally I would say, it is a good idea to start with some
simple working example, not with a list of all features and the
stuff about stripes, volumes, plexes, organization, perfomance
and what might be the differences to some kinds of RAID systems.

Once the reader has got a general idea what can be done, it
makes sense to discuss tuning and optimization.
I don't think it would do any harm to proceed this way, because
one needs to experiment and test things like these, before one
starts using them in a production enviroment.

Also it might be interesting for you to know, why I am asking
about vinum: It is quite clear, that our school's samba server
will sooner or later run out of disk space because of its growing
profiles and home directories. We are frequently short of money,
so I wouldn't like to buy new harddisks. But we know some people
who are willing to donate old, though still good quality
hardware.

Regards,

Uli.

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Re: Stupid vinum questions

2003-12-10 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 10 December 2003 at 17:57:56 +0100, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Before I start experimenting, I would like to find out, if I am
> on the right track.
> I have got some old and small SCSI harddisks left.
> 1) Can I use vinum to make them look like one big ufs slice (or
>is it more like a partition, which can be sliced)?

Yes.

> 2) Can I boot from such a thing, or do I need a seperate disk?

You can't boot from a Vinum volume without a single-subdisk plex.
That doesn't sound like what you want to build.

> 3) Is there some fine manual around, that could be used as a
>starting point for reading? (I had a look at at my copy of
>"The Complete FreeBSD", but I guess I wouldn't ask these
>questions, if I had understood it.)

Maybe it would be a good start to say what you didn't understand in
the book.  That way I can fix it for other people too.

Greg
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Re: Stupid vinum questions

2003-12-10 Thread Alexander Haderer
At 17:57 10.12.2003 +0100, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
I have got some old and small SCSI harddisks left.
1) Can I use vinum to make them look like one big ufs slice (or
   is it more like a partition, which can be sliced)?
Its like a partition/partitions that you newfs and mount like:
mount /dev/vinum/bigdrive /lotofdisks
2) Can I boot from such a thing, or do I need a seperate disk?
This depends which version of FreeBSD you are using. Older versions need 
some tricks, but there is a doc in /usr/share/doc/en/articles/vinum/ which 
descibes how to setup this. I am not sure, but 4.9R and/or 5.1R may be able 
to boot directly via vinum.

   man 4 vinum
   man 8 vinum
   http://www.vinumvm.org/

3) Is there some fine manual around, that could be used as a
   starting point for reading? (I had a look at at my copy of
   "The Complete FreeBSD", but I guess I wouldn't ask these
   questions, if I had understood it.)
See above, plus FreeBSD handbook

Alexander

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