Re: System hangs when I go from X to console (nvidia)

2004-02-20 Thread Graeme Smith
On Thursday 19 Feb 2004 21:18, Karel J. Bosschaart wrote:
> I had a similar problem with an nvidia GeForce4 (Ti4200). Switching
> to console would make it hang while the letters on the console
> appeared very faint. Searching on the linux forum of the nvidia
> site I found people having the same problem as well as a
> workaround: put 'Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV"' in the
> 'Screen' section of XF86Config, disabling the TV-out. 

I had read that too, except that it should go in the "device" section.  
However, I tried in screen section but it didn't improve matters. 
XFree86.0.log shows that the option is being used though.

>a working console is much more important for me.)

I agree that a working console is far more useful than TV out.

> Hmm, if you have another machine and a network you could try to do
> a remote login and see if that works. If you succeed to login (ie.
> the machine is still alive but displays nothing on the screen), you
> might be able to bring it back killing X.

A very good point (can't believe I didn't think of it).  I opened an 
SSH session on my SGI and ran 'top'. As soon as it switched to 
console 'top', and the SSH session, froze.

> Not sure if this helps but I wish you good luck.
>
> Karel.

Thanks for the help Karel, it's much appreciated.
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Re: System hangs when I go from X to console (nvidia)

2004-02-20 Thread Graeme Smith
> I have a similar issue with an MX440SE. From what I've read the
> likely candidate is ACPI (try disabling it with option 2 from the
> FreeBSD boot menu). Works for me. I'm using the nv driver from the
> XFree port, you might need to research further for using the
> nvidia-supplied drivers.
>
>
> Wayne

Thanks for the reply Wayne.

Option 2 on my boot menu is "enable" instead of "disable" so it looks 
like it's already disabled.  I did however try enabling it, but 
unfortunately it had no effect on the problem.

Graeme
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Re: System hangs when I go from X to console (nvidia)

2004-02-19 Thread Bob Johnson
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:01:28 +
From: Graeme Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System hangs when I go from X to console (nvidia)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I wonder if anybody has had this problem or can tell me what to try   
next.

I installed a Geforce 2 400 MX into my machine yesterday and actually 
succeeded in getting it to work with X after 12 hours.  All apart 
from from one annoying detail anyway.  When I leave X, either by 
ctrl+alt+bs or ctrl+alt+f[1-8] or rebooting etc. the machine becomes 
totally non responsive as soon as it tries to go into console.  I 
have to switch off and switch on (no reset button) to get it back to 
life.  I think my hard drives are going to start a petition soon to 
make me stop.
I have an Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 and a similar problem.  When I shut 
down KDE it locks up the system with graphical garbage on the screen and 
requires a reboot to recover.  However, there are some differences from 
what you describe:

- If I switch to text mode with ctrl-alt-f[1-8], there is no problem.

- If I tell KDE to shut down and then _very_quickly_ do ctrl-alt-f1 I
  can cleanly exit from KDE.
- I can reboot without powering down by using ctrl-alt-delete (which in
  a default install will do a clean shutdown and reboot).  This avoids
  the fsck caused by powering down to reboot, and is safer for your
  filesystem.
[part of message skipped]
The machine is a Compaq Proliant 800 (with embedded video which I've 
turned off on motherboard)
The card is a Elsa Gladiac 511 PCI (with twin output + TV, I'm only 
interested in getting it to work with one output)
FreeBSD is 5.2 and all ports are up to date as of this morning.
I'm using Nvidia's driver.  The default FreeBSD driver did not have this 
problem for me.  It appears that I installed the Nvidia driver on Oct 
13, but I don't know how to check what specific version it may be. 
Other than this problem, I've been quite happy with Nvidia's driver. 
I'm using it rather than the FreeBSD nv driver because I wanted support 
for dual-headed operation (TwinView).

Any pointers or suggestions welcomed.

I'm figuring that some day I will get annoyed enough that I will 
download a new version of the driver from Nvidia, and that by the time I 
do that, they will have fixed the problem.  I don't know when that might 
be, though.

Many thanks,

Graeme

- Bob

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Re: System hangs when I go from X to console (nvidia)

2004-02-19 Thread Karel J. Bosschaart
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:01:28PM +, Graeme Smith wrote:
> I wonder if anybody has had this problem or can tell me what to try   
> next.
> 
> I installed a Geforce 2 400 MX into my machine yesterday and actually 
> succeeded in getting it to work with X after 12 hours.  All apart 
> from from one annoying detail anyway.  When I leave X, either by 
> ctrl+alt+bs or ctrl+alt+f[1-8] or rebooting etc. the machine becomes 
> totally non responsive as soon as it tries to go into console.  I 
> have to switch off and switch on (no reset button) to get it back to 
> life.  I think my hard drives are going to start a petition soon to 
> make me stop.
>
I had a similar problem with an nvidia GeForce4 (Ti4200). Switching
to console would make it hang while the letters on the console appeared
very faint. Searching on the linux forum of the nvidia site I found 
people having the same problem as well as a workaround: put
'Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV"' in the 'Screen' section of 
XF86Config, disabling the TV-out. Also, this problem seems to be
present only if a cable is connected to TV-out. (Yes I have a cable
there but almost never use it - a working console is much more important
for me.)
 
> I've tried the VESA, nv and nvidia drivers for X and all seem to 
> exhibit this in one form or another.  I've tried loading with and 
> without the VESA driver at boot with no apparent difference. At the 
> moment I'm using the nvidia drivers. 
>
That's different from what I observed: my problem would occur *only*
with the nvidia driver, not with nv. Not sure about VESA but I don't
recommend that driver anyway. Also, only if a cable is attached to TV-out.
I don't have the link anymore but it shouldn't be too difficult to
find it again on the nvidia site. Might be useful as I don't remember
for what models of nvidia cards this was/is a problem.
 
> If I had to put money on what I think is happening I would say the 
> card tells the monitor "go into x by y mode at z refresh" but the 
> monitor can't handle that mode.  However it doesn't tell the card it 
> can't deal with it, but the card is waiting for the OK from the 
> monitor before it tells the machine to carry on.  That's what it 
> looks like from where I'm sitting anyway.
>
Hmm, if you have another machine and a network you could try to do
a remote login and see if that works. If you succeed to login (ie.
the machine is still alive but displays nothing on the screen), you
might be able to bring it back killing X.
 
> The machine is a Compaq Proliant 800 (with embedded video which I've 
> turned off on motherboard)
> The card is a Elsa Gladiac 511 PCI (with twin output + TV, I'm only 
> interested in getting it to work with one output)
> FreeBSD is 5.2 and all ports are up to date as of this morning.
> 
> Any pointers or suggestions welcomed.
>
Not sure if this helps but I wish you good luck.

Karel. 
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Re: System hangs when I go from X to console (nvidia)

2004-02-19 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 04:31, Graeme Smith wrote:
> I wonder if anybody has had this problem or can tell me what to try   
> next.
> 
> I installed a Geforce 2 400 MX into my machine yesterday and actually 
> succeeded in getting it to work with X after 12 hours.  All apart 
> from from one annoying detail anyway.  When I leave X, either by 
> ctrl+alt+bs or ctrl+alt+f[1-8] or rebooting etc. the machine becomes 
> totally non responsive as soon as it tries to go into console.  I 
> have to switch off and switch on (no reset button) to get it back to 
> life.  I think my hard drives are going to start a petition soon to 
> make me stop.
> 
> I've tried the VESA, nv and nvidia drivers for X and all seem to 
> exhibit this in one form or another.  I've tried loading with and 
> without the VESA driver at boot with no apparent difference. At the 
> moment I'm using the nvidia drivers. 
> 
I have a similar issue with an MX440SE. From what I've read the likely
candidate is ACPI (try disabling it with option 2 from the FreeBSD boot
menu). Works for me. I'm using the nv driver from the XFree port, you
might need to research further for using the nvidia-supplied drivers.


Wayne


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