Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:52:34PM -0500, Doug Lee wrote: > > I don't either, but I will provide a different data point: Blind > listers, myself included, must generally read through posts > sequentially, as it is usually trickier to skip reliably through > quotes to the new material when using synthesized speech to read an > email. We therefore favor top posting as a rule, though some of us > try to adhere to a particular list's preferences. :-) This is why one should trim quotes -- so there's just enough there to provide the needed context, rather than a lengthy record of an entire conversation. It may be surprising to you, but those of us who can see also sometimes find it annoying to have six thousand words of repetitive quotes of material that is currently irrelevant stacked up at either the top *or* the bottom of the email. > > For my part, I got way tired of sifting through masses of quotes and > requotes and finally threw a little Perl script in as a Mutt display > filter: Anyone who uses ">" to quote lines is now my friend because > my filter removes those, and I only see them on demand by opening the > body of the message from Mutt's attachment list. Those who use other > quoting techniques still cause me some anguish. :) That's a pretty good idea. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Scott McNealy: "Microsoft is now talking about the digital nervous system. I guess I would be nervous if my system was built on their technology too." pgpDnaT2Leb6G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 06:50:04PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Kailash Kailash wrote: > > > > > > Woj, I'm really surprised that you, of all people, seem lately to have > > > been converted to the Micro$oft Outlock-trained style of top-posting, > > > including tail-quoting all sorts irrelevant and repeated trailers etc, > > > after years of your (almost too- :) concise postings. > > > > well, sorry, but i don't use M$ Outlock > > That's more like it! :) I don't either, but I will provide a different data point: Blind listers, myself included, must generally read through posts sequentially, as it is usually trickier to skip reliably through quotes to the new material when using synthesized speech to read an email. We therefore favor top posting as a rule, though some of us try to adhere to a particular list's preferences. :-) For my part, I got way tired of sifting through masses of quotes and requotes and finally threw a little Perl script in as a Mutt display filter: Anyone who uses ">" to quote lines is now my friend because my filter removes those, and I only see them on demand by opening the body of the message from Mutt's attachment list. Those who use other quoting techniques still cause me some anguish. :) So in summary, I hope people quote consistently, and I'll post at whichever end seems most popular per list. At least when I remember to do so... -- Doug Lee d...@dlee.orghttp://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group doug@ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "When your best-laid plans have turned to dust, vacuum!" - Whoopi Goldberg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]
On Thursday 19 February 2009 05:06:15 GESBBB wrote: > 4) The insertion of legally unenforceable disclaimers, etc. is another big > waste of space. And not always under the control of sender, through the creative use of outgoing mailfilters. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]
5) The use of HTML mail in a mail forum is absurd; however, it is commonly done (GMail). this is a problem - as GMail and similar things itself. 6) One of my 'Pet Peeves": Morons who change a thread's subject rather than start a new one. was me sometimes by accident, but i do care now not doing this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]
> From: Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au [snip] > Woj, I'm really surprised that you, of all people, seem lately to have > been converted to the Micro$oft Outlock-trained style of top-posting, > including tail-quoting all sorts irrelevant and repeated trailers etc, > after years of your (almost too- :) concise postings. > > This list is getting very hard to follow as a digest anymore, when half > of it or more is re-re-repeated overtailquoting of irrelevant trivia. > Please come back from the dark side .. 1) MS Outlook is not the only MUA that defaults to 'TOP POSTING'. 2) It is configurable in the newer versions 3) The lack of effort by many posters to trim a message prior to sending is equally annoying. 4) The insertion of legally unenforceable disclaimers, etc. is another big waste of space. 5) The use of HTML mail in a mail forum is absurd; however, it is commonly done (GMail). 6) One of my 'Pet Peeves": Morons who change a thread's subject rather than start a new one. -- Jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Kailash Kailash wrote: > > > > Woj, I'm really surprised that you, of all people, seem lately to have > > been converted to the Micro$oft Outlock-trained style of top-posting, > > including tail-quoting all sorts irrelevant and repeated trailers etc, > > after years of your (almost too- :) concise postings. > > well, sorry, but i don't use M$ Outlock That's more like it! :) cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Top Posting Mania [was Re: FreeBSD 7.O compiled code is very slow]
> > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Kailash Kailash wrote: Woj, I'm really surprised that you, of all people, seem lately to have been converted to the Micro$oft Outlock-trained style of top-posting, including tail-quoting all sorts irrelevant and repeated trailers etc, after years of your (almost too- :) concise postings. well, sorry, but i don't use M$ Outlock ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
