Re: Updating 7.0-BETA2 to RC1...

2008-01-08 Thread peter.piggybox
Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> I'm shortly going to update my laptop from 7.0-BETA2 (a fresh
>> install) to 7.0-RC1. I'll do this with a buildworld/installworld
>> cycle. However, reading the site for freebsd-update I noticed that if
>> I were to do a binary upgrade then it recommends rebuilding all ports
>> as well.
>> 
>> Is rebuilding all ports something I should consider if I'm doing a
>> source-based upgrade too? Even though I'm not crossing a major
>> version boundary?
>
>Once 7.0 is released, then there is a promise of binary compatibility
>for any software compiled under some 7.x version to work certainly with
>any later 7.x version, and possibly with any earlier 7.x version as
>well[*].
>
>However, 7.0-RELEASE isn't actually out there yet, and the Release
>Engineers may well be making last minute incompatible changes.  If
>freebsd-update recommends wholesale updating of ports, then there's
>a good reason for that.  I will state though that I've been tracking
>7.x since fairly shortly after the RELENG_7 branch was created and apart
>from the big 6 -> 7 update I've not seen any compatibility problems with
>ported software.
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Matthew
>
>[*] I can't remember if the backwards compatibility with the major
>version is guaranteed or not.  Forward certainly is.  Also there's
>the new symbol versioning thing within shlibs that changes the way
>this sort of thing works.
>
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Thanks for the info Matthew.

Peter Harrison.


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Re: Updating 7.0-BETA2 to RC1...

2008-01-08 Thread peter.piggybox

Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 07:19:00AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I'm shortly going to update my laptop from 7.0-BETA2 (a fresh install) to 
>> 7.0-RC1. I'll do this with a buildworld/installworld cycle. However, reading 
>> the site for freebsd-update I noticed that if I were to do a binary upgrade 
>> then it recommends rebuilding all ports as well.
>> 
>> Is rebuilding all ports something I should consider if I'm doing a 
>> source-based upgrade too? Even though I'm not crossing a major version 
>> boundary?
>
>Yes. There was an API change in the system-base, which requires a
>ports-rebuild just to be safe.

Thanks for this. I guess I need to budget a bit more time for that upgrade 
then...

Peter Harrison.

>
>Cheers.
>-- 
>Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>   Allah forgives.
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Re: Updating 7.0-BETA2 to RC1...

2008-01-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm shortly going to update my laptop from 7.0-BETA2 (a fresh
> install) to 7.0-RC1. I'll do this with a buildworld/installworld
> cycle. However, reading the site for freebsd-update I noticed that if
> I were to do a binary upgrade then it recommends rebuilding all ports
> as well.
> 
> Is rebuilding all ports something I should consider if I'm doing a
> source-based upgrade too? Even though I'm not crossing a major
> version boundary?

Once 7.0 is released, then there is a promise of binary compatibility
for any software compiled under some 7.x version to work certainly with
any later 7.x version, and possibly with any earlier 7.x version as
well[*].

However, 7.0-RELEASE isn't actually out there yet, and the Release
Engineers may well be making last minute incompatible changes.  If
freebsd-update recommends wholesale updating of ports, then there's
a good reason for that.  I will state though that I've been tracking
7.x since fairly shortly after the RELENG_7 branch was created and apart
from the big 6 -> 7 update I've not seen any compatibility problems with
ported software.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] I can't remember if the backwards compatibility with the major
version is guaranteed or not.  Forward certainly is.  Also there's
the new symbol versioning thing within shlibs that changes the way
this sort of thing works.

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Re: Updating 7.0-BETA2 to RC1...

2008-01-08 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 07:19:00AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm shortly going to update my laptop from 7.0-BETA2 (a fresh install) to 
> 7.0-RC1. I'll do this with a buildworld/installworld cycle. However, reading 
> the site for freebsd-update I noticed that if I were to do a binary upgrade 
> then it recommends rebuilding all ports as well.
> 
> Is rebuilding all ports something I should consider if I'm doing a 
> source-based upgrade too? Even though I'm not crossing a major version 
> boundary?

Yes. There was an API change in the system-base, which requires a
ports-rebuild just to be safe.

Cheers.
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Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
  Jesus saves.
   Allah forgives.
 Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
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