Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-15 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 04:13:27PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Colin J. Raven writes: 1. Unless you *must* use telnet for some reason, it's a good idea to turn it off. Telnet is port 23; this is port 61 (NI-MAIL, whatever that is). Whoever answers will be whatever program is

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Fafa Diliha Romanova writes: what's with this badly written error message? # telnet localhost:61 localhost:21: hostname nor servname provided, or not known Replace the colon with a space in the command line. -- Anthony ___

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Fafa Diliha Romanova writes: what's with this badly written error message? # telnet localhost:61 localhost:21: hostname nor servname provided, or not known Replace the colon with a space in the command line. Agreed - however, rethink using Telnet in favor of ssh. -- Best

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Feb 13 at 09:53, Fafa Diliha Romanova ASKED: what's with this badly written error message? # telnet localhost:61 localhost:21: hostname nor servname provided, or not known have somebody compromised my telnet maybe? No, the syntax is incorrect telnet hostname [space] port_number so in this case:

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Chris writes: Agreed - however, rethink using Telnet in favor of ssh. I don't see how SSH would help when using telnet to connect to arbitrary ports. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Colin J. Raven writes: 1. Unless you *must* use telnet for some reason, it's a good idea to turn it off. Telnet is port 23; this is port 61 (NI-MAIL, whatever that is). Whoever answers will be whatever program is listening on port 61, but it won't be a standard telnet daemon. -- Anthony

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chris writes: Agreed - however, rethink using Telnet in favor of ssh. I don't see how SSH would help when using telnet to connect to arbitrary ports. Leaving the ports issue out of it (or not) we need to tell him why Telnet is not a good thing... And that would be,

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Chris writes: Leaving the ports issue out of it (or not) we need to tell him why Telnet is not a good thing... And that would be, Telnet passes clear text whereas ssh does not. How can he test something on port 61 without telnet? ssh requires its own port, and since it is a complex

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Bob Johnson
On Sunday 13 February 2005 09:53 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: what's with this badly written error message? # telnet localhost:61 localhost:21: hostname nor servname provided, or not known It means it tried to look up localhost:61 and couldn't make sense out of it. I believe servname is

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chris writes: Leaving the ports issue out of it (or not) we need to tell him why Telnet is not a good thing... And that would be, Telnet passes clear text whereas ssh does not. How can he test something on port 61 without telnet? ssh requires its own port, and since it

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Chris writes: I think we're both assuming what the user is doing and the reasons as to why. Let's just agree that: 1. Telnet can use any ports providing the user redirects. 2. Telnet passes clear text no matter what. 3. ssh ought to be used to replace Telnet whenever possible. 4. ssh also

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 09:22:45AM -0600, Chris wrote: 2. Telnet passes clear text no matter what. Not in a Kerberos environment it doesn't, nor in an transport-mode IPsec environment. Related to that is connections where transport-level encryption typically doesn't matter: connecting over a

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: *snip* Since the original poster is trying to connect to port 61, I assume he is using telnet to test the service on that port, and so SSH is irrelevant. Regardless of what you assume - the user didn't indicate the reasons for using telnet nor did he relay the reason(s)

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Valentin Nechayev
Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 16:38:18, atkielski.anthony wrote about Re: WEIRD: telnet: 1. Telnet can use any ports providing the user redirects. 2. Telnet passes clear text no matter what. 3. ssh ought to be used to replace Telnet whenever possible. 4. ssh also can be made to work with any port

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Valentin Nechayev writes: If I show screenshot with ssh'ing to port 443, will it be convincing? Yes. I'd like to see how it's done, if it can be done, although I'm still now sure how it would be useful. But I'd rather see it used to connect to ports like 25 or 80. Not current telnet,

Re: WEIRD: telnet

2005-02-13 Thread Dick Davies
* Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0205 15:05]: Some tangential observations: 1. Unless you *must* use telnet for some reason, it's a good idea to turn it off. This is a telnet client, how would you 'turn that off'. This is a very common way to test if a socket is listening, and there are