RE: What is PPPoed?

2004-04-22 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, JJB wrote:

First of all: Sorry, I think I was talking nonsense:
I am running a DSL connection which uses the kind of protocol
that is called PPPoE and which is managed by ppp . ppp either
needs netgraph (default) or pppoed (alternatively). Since
netgraph is built into the kernel by default nowadays, you don't
have to worry about either.

Uli.

> If you do not use it directly, then why is there rc.conf statements
> to enable it just like you would enable user ppp?
> Pppoed_enable="YES"
>
> It's more than a behind the scenes module.
>
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>
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Jorn Argelo wrote:
>
> > I believe it's dialup service for DSL lines (Point to Point
> Protocol over
> > ethernet daemon? Just a wild guess though)
> Yes it is. But you don't use it directly, it is a part of the ppp
> "package".
>
> Uli.
> > So if you have a DSL line which
> > requires the user to dial in, you'll need PPPoed. Otherwise, if
> your ISP
> > gives you an peminent IP address, you can just set your interface
> to DHCP or
> > anything else the ISP requires.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jorn
> >
> > On Thursday 22 April 2004 15:11, JJB wrote:
> > > I read the man pppoed, but that is so cryptic I got nothing out
> of
> > > it.
> > >
> > > What is the purpose of PPPoed?
> > >
> > > Who are the typical users?
> > >
> > > How is this different than using ppp with
> > > 'set device PPPoE:XXX' in the ppp.conf
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RE: What is PPPoed?

2004-04-22 Thread JJB
If you do not use it directly, then why is there rc.conf statements
to enable it just like you would enable user ppp?
Pppoed_enable="YES"

It's more than a behind the scenes module.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:33 PM
To: Jorn Argelo
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Subject: Re: What is PPPoed?

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Jorn Argelo wrote:

> I believe it's dialup service for DSL lines (Point to Point
Protocol over
> ethernet daemon? Just a wild guess though)
Yes it is. But you don't use it directly, it is a part of the ppp
"package".

Uli.
> So if you have a DSL line which
> requires the user to dial in, you'll need PPPoed. Otherwise, if
your ISP
> gives you an peminent IP address, you can just set your interface
to DHCP or
> anything else the ISP requires.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jorn
>
> On Thursday 22 April 2004 15:11, JJB wrote:
> > I read the man pppoed, but that is so cryptic I got nothing out
of
> > it.
> >
> > What is the purpose of PPPoed?
> >
> > Who are the typical users?
> >
> > How is this different than using ppp with
> > 'set device PPPoE:XXX' in the ppp.conf
> >
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Re: What is PPPoed?

2004-04-22 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Jorn Argelo wrote:

> I believe it's dialup service for DSL lines (Point to Point Protocol over
> ethernet daemon? Just a wild guess though)
Yes it is. But you don't use it directly, it is a part of the ppp
"package".

Uli.
> So if you have a DSL line which
> requires the user to dial in, you'll need PPPoed. Otherwise, if your ISP
> gives you an peminent IP address, you can just set your interface to DHCP or
> anything else the ISP requires.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jorn
>
> On Thursday 22 April 2004 15:11, JJB wrote:
> > I read the man pppoed, but that is so cryptic I got nothing out of
> > it.
> >
> > What is the purpose of PPPoed?
> >
> > Who are the typical users?
> >
> > How is this different than using ppp with
> > 'set device PPPoE:XXX' in the ppp.conf
> >
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RE: What is PPPoed?

2004-04-22 Thread Jorn Argelo

>Your wild guess makes no sense.
>DSL lines are 24/7.
>They are like leased line, with permanent connection.
>Dailup service uses user ppp to 56k voice line style modem.

This is not true. A friend of mine does not have a 24/7 DSL line.
He needs to dial-in into his DSL connection before he has internet.
Perhaps it does not exist in your country, or you are unaware of it,
but I am sure that it does exists.

Here is a quote from the first line of the pppoed man page:

The pppoed utility listens to the given interface for PPP over Ethernet
PPPoE) service request packets, and actions them by negotiating a ses-
sion then invoking a ppp(8) program.

I don't really find it that hard to understand though. It makes perfect
sense with what I said. It uses PPP (Dial-in) over ethernet.(PPPoe) A
modem does not use an ethernet line, as far as I know. (Modem is a
simple
telephone line, using RJ-11 connectors. Ethernet uses RJ-45 connectors) 
So it has to be a utility to dial into a permanent DSL line, since you
can't dial into a cable modem. For a regular modem connection you just
use the PPP
utility. 

Jorn


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Re: What is PPPoed?

2004-04-22 Thread Jorn Argelo
I believe it's dialup service for DSL lines (Point to Point Protocol over 
ethernet daemon? Just a wild guess though) So if you have a DSL line which 
requires the user to dial in, you'll need PPPoed. Otherwise, if your ISP 
gives you an peminent IP address, you can just set your interface to DHCP or 
anything else the ISP requires.

Cheers,

Jorn

On Thursday 22 April 2004 15:11, JJB wrote:
> I read the man pppoed, but that is so cryptic I got nothing out of
> it.
>
> What is the purpose of PPPoed?
>
> Who are the typical users?
>
> How is this different than using ppp with
> 'set device PPPoE:XXX' in the ppp.conf
>
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