RE: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Aslat > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can usually pick these units up at auction for around the $20 mark, > or sometimes less. Mine came with a second paper tray and a jet-direct > card, and I'm sure there are other nice extras that people are willing > to include just to take it off their hands. > Duplexers are nice but hard to find on the used market. Be careful with buying envelope feeders. HP manufactured 2 different ones. The first one only works on the HP4. The second one works on the HP4 and on the HP4+. Both look identical and there are no identifying marks on them that indicate if you have an older one or a newer one. Ted ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
In the immortal words of "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Go buy a HP Laserjet 4M+ that's used. For starters the things are > indestructible > you might have to do a feed roller replacement at 50,000 prints, but > other than > that you just keep putting toner and paper in it. They are dirt cheap > used and > the remanufactured toner cartridges for them are also dirt cheap. The > PostScript > is real PostScript. They take an internal print server card that is > also dirt > cheap on the used market. I agree. I have one of these given to me, and I have to admit, it's basically wonderful. Everything works with it, it spits out pages perfectly every time. It's a bit slow to warm up, but that's bearable considering all it's benefits. I'm up to around 4000 pages since I bought a toner for it, and I will probably just get a refill cartridge for less than AU$50. You can usually pick these units up at auction for around the $20 mark, or sometimes less. Mine came with a second paper tray and a jet-direct card, and I'm sure there are other nice extras that people are willing to include just to take it off their hands. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
Go buy a HP Laserjet 4M+ that's used. For starters the things are indestructible you might have to do a feed roller replacement at 50,000 prints, but other than that you just keep putting toner and paper in it. They are dirt cheap used and the remanufactured toner cartridges for them are also dirt cheap. The PostScript is real PostScript. They take an internal print server card that is also dirt cheap on the used market. The problem with the cheapie Laserprinters like the 6L is they will fall apart after a few thousand prints, their toner cartridges are tiny which necessitates frequent replacement. Keep in mind the printer companies have 2 markets they serve. The first is the commercial market who cares about things like per-page costs. The second is the retail market comprised mostly of morons who only buy what's on sale and couldn't calculate a per-page cost. Customers in the first market are quite willing to pay a higher initial cost for the printer if the supplies are lower priced or more economical because it drops the per-page cost. Thus, a printer that costs $199 that has a toner cartridge that only prints 500 copies, and costs $100 to replace, will be ignored in favor of a printer that costs $1000 that has a toner cartridge that prints 3000 copies and costs $100 to replace. Customers in the second market will ignore a $999 printer and buy the $199 printer. This describes most retail customers to a T. Now, it probably costs the printer manufacturer about $150.00 to manufacture either the $1000 printer or the $199 printer. So, to maintain profitability on the $199 printers, they give away the printer and make the money on the toner cartridges. The 4+ was in the business classification when it was new. Thus you get the benefit of a $1000 printer that was designed for low page counts, for a low cost initial price. Ted > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Moeller > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 6:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD > > > Hi all, > > I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my > Canon S500 are > total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and I'm > wondering which one I should buy. > > I thought about the HP Laserjet 6L or something in this category. > Any advice? > > Thanks! > Martin > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
Matt Emmerton writes: > If you look around, you can find "old" LaserJets that are being > dumped when they're still perfectly fine (and usually come with > a full toner cartridge too). Speaking of toner - check out the price and capacity of replacement cartridges. If the cost for a year's usage were to differ by $100 in cartridges, it would probably be worth spending that first $100 on the machine itself Love my 6MP; don't love the cost of replacement cartridges. Robert Huff ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
- Original Message - From: "Kirk Strauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:04 AM Subject: Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD > On Friday 17 September 2004 08:40 am, Martin Moeller wrote: > > > I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my Canon S500 > > are total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and > > I'm wondering which one I should buy. > I'm using an HP LaserJet 1200 with an additional 64MB of generic memory, > being fed PostScript via USB by CUPS on my FreeBSD server. Setup took > all of about 5 minutes, and the print quality is flawless. > -- > Kirk Strauser Any old LaserJet (the III, 4 or 5 series at 300/600 dpi) that speaks PCL or PS will work quite well, and will take virtually no effort to set up. If you look around, you can find "old" LaserJets that are being dumped when they're still perfectly fine (and usually come with a full toner cartridge too). -- Matt Emmerton ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
On Friday 17 September 2004 08:40 am, Martin Moeller wrote: > I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my Canon S500 > are total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and > I'm wondering which one I should buy. I'm using an HP LaserJet 1200 with an additional 64MB of generic memory, being fed PostScript via USB by CUPS on my FreeBSD server. Setup took all of about 5 minutes, and the print quality is flawless. -- Kirk Strauser pgpEp27K30uyB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
At 8:08 AM -0600 9/17/04, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Martin Moeller wrote: I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and I'm wondering which one I should buy. I thought about the HP Laserjet 6L or something in this category. Avoid the 5L and 6L, as they have failure-prone paper feeds. Newer versions of this top feed printer may share the same problem. Used 4/4M/4M+ or 5/5M/5M+ series can be found inexpensively; the "M" models (for "Mac") have Adobe PostScript. The LaserJet 4000/4050 is a very nice printer, as is the LaserJet 5000 if you need 11x17. Both have a non-Adobe PostScript clone which works pretty well. Internal JetDirect cards are cheap for the 4/5 series, more expensive for 4000/5000, but very convenient. Having PostScript in the printer makes setup easier, and makes printing faster in some cases. I agree with everything Warren has said here. Here at RPI, we have also used Lexmark for black&white laser printers, and they have worked very well. We've also had a few Lexmark color laser printers. We have not been as happy with those, but I assume you are not looking for a color printer. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Martin Moeller wrote: I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my Canon S500 are total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and I'm wondering which one I should buy. I thought about the HP Laserjet 6L or something in this category. Avoid the 5L and 6L, as they have failure-prone paper feeds. Newer versions of this top feed printer may share the same problem. Used 4/4M/4M+ or 5/5M/5M+ series can be found inexpensively; the "M" models (for "Mac") have Adobe PostScript. The LaserJet 4000/4050 is a very nice printer, as is the LaserJet 5000 if you need 11x17. Both have a non-Adobe PostScript clone which works pretty well. Internal JetDirect cards are cheap for the 4/5 series, more expensive for 4000/5000, but very convenient. Having PostScript in the printer makes setup easier, and makes printing faster in some cases. If the printer is PCL only, Ghostscript is used as a filter, rendering PostScript jobs into PCL. Sometimes this method has speed advantages, also. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
Chris Hill writes: > > I thought about the HP Laserjet 6L or something in this > > category. Any advice? > > The two HP LaserJets I've had were both excellent - no problems > at all, good results, easy to set up. The LaserJet series have an excellent and long-standing record for reliability; there are LJ IIs out there merrily chugging away. (I don't know about the various x000 series, but I would assume they haven't lost the touch.) I'll second the recommendation to get something with native PostScript; and maje sure whatever you get has the ability to add generic memory. Robert Huff happy owner of a LJ 6MP upgraded with 16 MB of 30-pin SIMM ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Martin Moeller wrote: I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my Canon S500 are total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and I'm wondering which one I should buy. I thought about the HP Laserjet 6L or something in this category. Any advice? The two HP LaserJets I've had were both excellent - no problems at all, good results, easy to set up. I'd recommend getting the JetDirect card, because that lets the printer be its own print server and also provides native PostScript support. It also supports AppleTalk directly, if that matters. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD
Hi Martin, > I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my Canon S500 are > total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and I'm > wondering which one I should buy. if possible, take a printer with native postscript. That'll make things much easier. -volker ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
