Re: X ATI driver?
On 6/17/06 6:56 PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Re: X ATI driver? ATI cards with X Windows are a bit of a pain. As I understand it, ATI have not released their specs etc so that any X driver is reverse engineered. NVIDA does provide drivers which do work. I have an old MACH32 in a server and could only get it to work as using the Vesa drivers. It runs at 1024x768, but I was not too bothered as the machine after setting up runs headless. My advice is try the VESA drivers if that fails try and change to NVIDA. Rob, I'm finding the docs less than helpful about all this. If I don't use the suggested configuration, then I need to fill in a bunch of stuff I don't know about - or, so it seems, at least. Here's what the configuration file looks like after doing Xorg -configure. Snip Any chance you could show me how to either do the changes to VESA or NVDIA or to find the documents that are supposed to be helpful, preferentially off list (I'll write a report for the list if we can get it working). I've tried a few things and they tend to belch for not being correct but they don't give me any clues about to correct them. -- Walter M. Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wump Research Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470 541-672-8975 Walt, It was some ago, that I had the problem with ATI. ISTR that I used one of the other config tools. Have a look at the FreeBSD page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html There are other config tools listed. I think I used xorgconfig and tried the various options starting at the lowest resolutions until I got as far as possible. As far as Changing to Nvidia that is just a matter of getting a Nvidia card and swopping it with the ATI. Nvidia do have drivers on their site for 3d etc with instructions on what to do. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X ATI driver? - solved, sort of
Operationally, at least, I seem to resolved my problem with Xorg 6.9.0 and using the Mach32 ATI video card. I included lines in xorg.conf.new in Section Device ... Option tv_out false Option tv_standard None I suspect only the latter is necessary but haven't experimented to see. The reason for doing this seems to me to be some bugs in the ATI driver arrangement and Xorg general code. It seems that there are many implementations of strncasecmp in different packages, despite what seems to be a standard available in libc (???). Xorg's is xf86strncasecmp and is written so that it goes ahead and dereferences a null pointer if one is passed to it - hence the segment error crash. The null pointer comes from the string TvStd not being initialized when ATIProcessOptions runs with the Xorg -configure generated xorg.conf.new file. While I haven't traced how the variable gets defined, by changing the option above, that would seem to be the effect as it quits crashing subsequently. -- Walter M. Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wump Research Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470 541-672-8975 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X ATI driver?
On 6/17/06, Walt Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an old box I've been messing with. I had it running X on FreeBSD 5.3, seemingly well enough. I decided to move to 6.1, installed more RAM, a bigger hard disk and a CD-RW drive that can see CD-Rs (unlike the original old SCSI CD drive) and chose an install everything from CD. Things went well ... until I tried bringing up X. Since then, I've been studying, hunting through archives, etc. and have become mired in too much data. So, I'm asking for help. Here's what happens when I configure and then text X ... vulcan# Xorg -configure X Window System Version 6.9.0 Release Date: 21 December 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD vulcan.wump.org 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 Build Date: 24 March 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Jun 16 23:12:36 2006 List of video drivers: apm ark ati atimisc chips cirrus cyrix dummy glint i128 i740 i810 mga neomagic nsc nv r128 radeon rendition s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion sis tdfx tga trident tseng via vmware vesa vga (++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new Xorg detected your mouse at device /dev/sysmouse. Please check your config if the mouse is still not operational, as by default Xorg tries to autodetect the protocol. Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new To test the server, run 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new' vulcan# gdb X GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd...(no debugging symbols found)... (gdb) run -config /root/xorg.conf.new Starting program: /usr/X11R6/bin/X -config /root/xorg.conf.new (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... X Window System Version 6.9.0 Release Date: 21 December 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD vulcan.wump.org 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 Build Date: 24 March 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Jun 16 23:14:02 2006 (++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0809854d in xf86strncasecmp () (gdb) bt #0 0x0809854d in xf86strncasecmp () #1 0x286a7cb9 in ATIProcessOptions () from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.so #2 0x286b8748 in ATIPreInit () from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.so #3 0x0806e2f1 in InitOutput () #4 0x080c3d84 in main () (gdb) I don't really know how to use gdb effectively, but this makes it look like the ATI driver is getting tangled up processing the configuration file to me. ??? -- What kind of ATI card is this?... Here's a wild guess: it might be the DRI/DRM crap, disable it, in xorg.conf, and try again: Section Module Load extmod Load glx - Load dri - Load dbe Load record Load xtrap Load type1
Re: X ATI driver?
At 10:42 AM -0500 6/17/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: What kind of ATI card is this? There's a label on what's probably an E-PROM that says PCI MACH32 113-23000-110 (C) 1995 ... Here's a wild guess: it might be the DRI/DRM crap, disable it, in xorg.conf, and try again: Section Module Load extmod Load glx - Load dri - Load dbe Load record Load xtrap Load type1 Load freetype EndSection I commented out those two lines. It still fails. FWIW: the card worked with FreeBSD 5.3. -- Walter M. Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wump Research Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470 541-672-8975 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X ATI driver?
At 10:42 AM -0500 6/17/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: What kind of ATI card is this? There's a label on what's probably an E-PROM that says PCI MACH32 113-23000-110 (C) 1995 ... Here's a wild guess: it might be the DRI/DRM crap, disable it, in xorg.conf, and try again: Section Module Load extmod Load glx - Load dri - Load dbe Load record Load xtrap Load type1 Load freetype EndSection I commented out those two lines. It still fails. FWIW: the card worked with FreeBSD 5.3. -- ATI cards with X Windows are a bit of a pain. As I understand it, ATI have not released their specs etc so that any X driver is reverse engineered. NVIDA does provide drivers which do work. I have an old MACH32 in a server and could only get it to work as using the Vesa drivers. It runs at 1024x768, but I was not too bothered as the machine after setting up runs headless. My advice is try the VESA drivers if that fails try and change to NVIDA. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X ATI driver?
On 6/17/06, Walt Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:42 AM -0500 6/17/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: What kind of ATI card is this? There's a label on what's probably an E-PROM that says PCI MACH32 113-23000-110 (C) 1995 Wow thats old!!! Get a new video card. FWIW: the card worked with FreeBSD 5.3. Yes but what were you using for X11? Xfree86? what version? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X ATI driver?
At 2:35 PM -0500 6/17/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 6/17/06, Walt Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:42 AM -0500 6/17/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: What kind of ATI card is this? There's a label on what's probably an E-PROM that says PCI MACH32 113-23000-110 (C) 1995 Wow thats old!!! Get a new video card. Pearls before swine, eh? I don't think that's a good solution for this beast. It's all pretty antiquated stuff and the money for new hardware is not in the cards, much less the wallet. Besides ... FWIW: the card worked with FreeBSD 5.3. Yes but what were you using for X11? Xfree86? what version? Xorg 6.7.0 as I recall. -- Walter M. Pawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wump Research Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470 541-672-8975 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
