Re: changing subjects [in this manner]

2002-09-25 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-24 19:02:43 -0400:
 On 24 Sep 2002, Kirk Strauser wrote:
   PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running
   pine when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my box!!!
  Because you haven't discovered fetchmail and mutt yet?  :)
  Kirk Strauser
 
 Is mutt a lot like PINE?

in a way, mutt has borrowed from pine, but it's a completely
different animal; pine comes from University of Washington, and
software originating from there usually doesn't have the best
reputation.

 The thing is, I think I want just a client, not a daemon to move or
 copy over my /var/mail/$USER from another box to my box at home
 (similar to uucp or something).  Is that clear?

not completely. you said above that you have a POP3 account.
that means you'll need something to get the messages to your box,
just as with an AWBM (Average Windows-based Mailer) like Eudora.
that something is often fetchmail (i prefer getmail).

plus, uucp is completely irrelevant in your situation.

 Said another way, I do not require something like fetchmail or qpopper
 to replicate/mirror my mail.somewhere.net/var/mail/peter to
 localhost/var/mail/peter

see above. besides, qpopper is a POP3 server, and fetchmail is a
POP3 client.  looks like you're a bit confused.

since
 
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Re: changing subjects [in this manner]

2002-09-25 Thread Peter Leftwich

On 24 Sep 2002, Kirk Strauser wrote:
  Is mutt a lot like PINE?
 Yes, but with a more loyal following.

I donno - Myself, I am pretty devoted to PINE (i.e. very much in love)

  The thing is, I think I want just a client, not a daemon to move or copy
  over my /var/mail/$USER from another box to my box at home (similar to
  uucp or something).  Is that clear?  Said another way, I do not require
  something like fetchmail or qpopper to replicate/mirror my
  mail.somewhere.net/var/mail/peter to localhost/var/mail/peter
 Fair enough.  Mutt should be perfectly happy with that arrangement.

And mutt can do POP3s?  Does it have an xmutt (GUI) version too?

  In Googlis non est, ergo non est.
  What does this mean?
 If it's not in Google, then it doesn't exist.  ;)
 Kirk Strauser
 In Googlis non est, ergo non est.

Not true.  I was trying to show off a trick in an AIM (AOL) chat where I
asked for first an adjective (smelly) then a noun (tape she said) and
searched Google Images for smelly tape, but alas, none was located.  :(

So it must not exist.  :)

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Re: changing subjects [in this manner]

2002-09-24 Thread Kirk Strauser


At 2002-09-24T05:22:39Z, Peter Leftwich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running
 pine when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my
 box!!!

Because you haven't discovered fetchmail and mutt yet?  :)
-- 
Kirk Strauser
In Googlis non est, ergo non est.

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Re: changing subjects [in this manner]

2002-09-24 Thread Peter Leftwich

On 24 Sep 2002, Kirk Strauser wrote:
  PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running
  pine when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my box!!!
 Because you haven't discovered fetchmail and mutt yet?  :)
 Kirk Strauser

Is mutt a lot like PINE?  The thing is, I think I want just a client, not a
daemon to move or copy over my /var/mail/$USER from another box to my box
at home (similar to uucp or something).  Is that clear?  Said another way,
I do not require something like fetchmail or qpopper to replicate/mirror my
mail.somewhere.net/var/mail/peter to localhost/var/mail/peter

 In Googlis non est, ergo non est.

What does this mean?

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Re: changing subjects [in this manner]

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Nelson

In the last episode (Sep 23), Peter Leftwich said:
 I wonder... with majordomo's and mail lists in general, when someone
 replies and modifies the Subject line, is the thread broken and future
 search engine results dissociated?  Or do threads rely on Message-ID
 codes in the full headers?  Yes I realize this should be posted instead to
 something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-)

It's up to your email client (not the mailinglist) to thread messages,
and the algorithm most use is to thread messages together based on
References: and In-Reply-To: headers, and optionally tack leftover
messages into those threads based on the subject header.  References:
and IRT: are always honored, even if the subject is different.

For example, if you're using Mutt, messages without References: or IRT:
(but with a matching subject) are placed by date within the thread and
marked with a *.  If you're reading a list on the web threaded by
MHonArc, they are relegated to the bottom of the thread, below a
Possible-follow-ups spacer.

Simply replying to a message but changing the subject will not break a
thread.  The safest way to create a new thread based on an existing
thread is to manually copy your parent message into a textfile or X
clipboard, start a fresh new message, pase the parent in, trim, and add
  yourself (or have your editor do it if it has a paste as
quotation function.

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Re: changing subjects [in this manner]

2002-09-23 Thread Peter Leftwich

On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Dan Nelson wrote:
 It's up to your email client (not the mailinglist) to thread messages,
 and the algorithm most use is to thread messages together based on
 References: and In-Reply-To: headers, and optionally tack leftover
 messages into those threads based on the subject header.  References:
 and IRT: are always honored, even if the subject is different.

 For example, if you're using Mutt, messages without References: or IRT:
 (but with a matching subject) are placed by date within the thread and
 marked with a *.  If you're reading a list on the web threaded by
 MHonArc, they are relegated to the bottom of the thread, below a
 Possible-follow-ups spacer.

 Simply replying to a message but changing the subject will not break a
 thread.  The safest way to create a new thread based on an existing
 thread is to manually copy your parent message into a textfile or X
 clipboard, start a fresh new message, pase the parent in, trim, and add
   yourself (or have your editor do it if it has a paste as
 quotation function.
   Dan Nelson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I meant the threads that are archived on the web, from the newsgroup side
of this mailing list.

PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running pine
when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my box!!!

--
Peter Leftwich
President  Founder
Video2Video Services
Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
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