Re: changing subjects [in this manner]
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-24 19:02:43 -0400: On 24 Sep 2002, Kirk Strauser wrote: PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running pine when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my box!!! Because you haven't discovered fetchmail and mutt yet? :) Kirk Strauser Is mutt a lot like PINE? in a way, mutt has borrowed from pine, but it's a completely different animal; pine comes from University of Washington, and software originating from there usually doesn't have the best reputation. The thing is, I think I want just a client, not a daemon to move or copy over my /var/mail/$USER from another box to my box at home (similar to uucp or something). Is that clear? not completely. you said above that you have a POP3 account. that means you'll need something to get the messages to your box, just as with an AWBM (Average Windows-based Mailer) like Eudora. that something is often fetchmail (i prefer getmail). plus, uucp is completely irrelevant in your situation. Said another way, I do not require something like fetchmail or qpopper to replicate/mirror my mail.somewhere.net/var/mail/peter to localhost/var/mail/peter see above. besides, qpopper is a POP3 server, and fetchmail is a POP3 client. looks like you're a bit confused. since -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.7-RC 11:12AM up 7 days, 18:27, 27 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.14, 0.16 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: changing subjects [in this manner]
On 24 Sep 2002, Kirk Strauser wrote: Is mutt a lot like PINE? Yes, but with a more loyal following. I donno - Myself, I am pretty devoted to PINE (i.e. very much in love) The thing is, I think I want just a client, not a daemon to move or copy over my /var/mail/$USER from another box to my box at home (similar to uucp or something). Is that clear? Said another way, I do not require something like fetchmail or qpopper to replicate/mirror my mail.somewhere.net/var/mail/peter to localhost/var/mail/peter Fair enough. Mutt should be perfectly happy with that arrangement. And mutt can do POP3s? Does it have an xmutt (GUI) version too? In Googlis non est, ergo non est. What does this mean? If it's not in Google, then it doesn't exist. ;) Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. Not true. I was trying to show off a trick in an AIM (AOL) chat where I asked for first an adjective (smelly) then a noun (tape she said) and searched Google Images for smelly tape, but alas, none was located. :( So it must not exist. :) -- Peter Leftwich President Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: changing subjects [in this manner]
At 2002-09-24T05:22:39Z, Peter Leftwich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running pine when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my box!!! Because you haven't discovered fetchmail and mutt yet? :) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: changing subjects [in this manner]
On 24 Sep 2002, Kirk Strauser wrote: PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running pine when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my box!!! Because you haven't discovered fetchmail and mutt yet? :) Kirk Strauser Is mutt a lot like PINE? The thing is, I think I want just a client, not a daemon to move or copy over my /var/mail/$USER from another box to my box at home (similar to uucp or something). Is that clear? Said another way, I do not require something like fetchmail or qpopper to replicate/mirror my mail.somewhere.net/var/mail/peter to localhost/var/mail/peter In Googlis non est, ergo non est. What does this mean? -- Peter Leftwich President Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: changing subjects [in this manner]
In the last episode (Sep 23), Peter Leftwich said: I wonder... with majordomo's and mail lists in general, when someone replies and modifies the Subject line, is the thread broken and future search engine results dissociated? Or do threads rely on Message-ID codes in the full headers? Yes I realize this should be posted instead to something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) It's up to your email client (not the mailinglist) to thread messages, and the algorithm most use is to thread messages together based on References: and In-Reply-To: headers, and optionally tack leftover messages into those threads based on the subject header. References: and IRT: are always honored, even if the subject is different. For example, if you're using Mutt, messages without References: or IRT: (but with a matching subject) are placed by date within the thread and marked with a *. If you're reading a list on the web threaded by MHonArc, they are relegated to the bottom of the thread, below a Possible-follow-ups spacer. Simply replying to a message but changing the subject will not break a thread. The safest way to create a new thread based on an existing thread is to manually copy your parent message into a textfile or X clipboard, start a fresh new message, pase the parent in, trim, and add yourself (or have your editor do it if it has a paste as quotation function. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: changing subjects [in this manner]
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Dan Nelson wrote: It's up to your email client (not the mailinglist) to thread messages, and the algorithm most use is to thread messages together based on References: and In-Reply-To: headers, and optionally tack leftover messages into those threads based on the subject header. References: and IRT: are always honored, even if the subject is different. For example, if you're using Mutt, messages without References: or IRT: (but with a matching subject) are placed by date within the thread and marked with a *. If you're reading a list on the web threaded by MHonArc, they are relegated to the bottom of the thread, below a Possible-follow-ups spacer. Simply replying to a message but changing the subject will not break a thread. The safest way to create a new thread based on an existing thread is to manually copy your parent message into a textfile or X clipboard, start a fresh new message, pase the parent in, trim, and add yourself (or have your editor do it if it has a paste as quotation function. Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I meant the threads that are archived on the web, from the newsgroup side of this mailing list. PS - And that reminds me! Why am I still ssh'ing someplace and running pine when I could be running xpine and (probably) POP3s'ing my mail to my box!!! -- Peter Leftwich President Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message