Re: closer, no cigar.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:17:39AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-07-14 18:41, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 10:39:29PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > You also have to set things up in /etc/mail. Have you changed any > > > configuration files in that directory? If yes, what were the > > > changes you made? > > > > Good points. I began by essentially swapping all of > > /etc from the Emachine to the HP (here). In /etc/mail > > originally I had several spam filter sites keeing me from > > tons of spam. tHE last change I made was to back out of > > the spam sites so that everything culd get thrru. > > Here is an ls -lt from /var/spool. > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 20992 Jul 14 18:13 mqueue > > drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp1536 Jul 14 11:45 clientmqueue > > drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer512 Jul 13 18:16 lock > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon512 Jun 3 09:58 output > > drwxrwxr-x 7 uucp uucp 512 Mar 16 09:23 uucp > > drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 Mar 16 09:23 uucppublic > > drwx-wx--- 3 root daemon512 Feb 27 02:22 cups > > drwx-- 2 root daemon512 Jan 10 2004 opielocks > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon512 Jan 10 2004 lpd > > Hmmm. What does /var/spool have to do with the setup? Gary, relax. > You're mixing directories and files and programs and hostnames and > ... and pretty much everything. > > I didn't ask about /var/spool :-) > I've been tracing everythinng I can think of that might contribute to my mail coection being "refused by [127.0.0.1]" I'm rebuilding 5.2.1 andwilll use mergemaster to give me ``clean''' /etc/mail sendmail files. IIf *that* fails, I'll admit defeat... gary PS: I keep thinking that it's got to be one stupid file I'm not seeing > -- Gary Kline Seattle BSD Users' Group (seabug) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought Unlimited Org's Alternate Email Site http://www.magnesium.net/~kline To live is not a necessity; but to live honorably...is a necessity. -Kant ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On 2004-07-14 18:41, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 10:39:29PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > You also have to set things up in /etc/mail. Have you changed any > > configuration files in that directory? If yes, what were the > > changes you made? > > Good points. I began by essentially swapping all of > /etc from the Emachine to the HP (here). In /etc/mail > originally I had several spam filter sites keeing me from > tons of spam. tHE last change I made was to back out of > the spam sites so that everything culd get thrru. > Here is an ls -lt from /var/spool. > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 20992 Jul 14 18:13 mqueue > drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp1536 Jul 14 11:45 clientmqueue > drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer512 Jul 13 18:16 lock > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon512 Jun 3 09:58 output > drwxrwxr-x 7 uucp uucp 512 Mar 16 09:23 uucp > drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 Mar 16 09:23 uucppublic > drwx-wx--- 3 root daemon512 Feb 27 02:22 cups > drwx-- 2 root daemon512 Jan 10 2004 opielocks > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon512 Jan 10 2004 lpd Hmmm. What does /var/spool have to do with the setup? Gary, relax. You're mixing directories and files and programs and hostnames and ... and pretty much everything. I didn't ask about /var/spool :-) Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 10:39:29PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-07-14 10:58, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I used your sendmail config in my rc.conf -- thank you -- and am > > watching maillog > > > > Well. Now mail gets from ns1.thought.org -> toxic.magnesium.net. > > Let's se if I can at least get ,mail *thru* to me at ns1. > > > > Rats. It is still getting queued. > > > > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > size=307, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > > relay=toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15] > > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: --- 050 <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]>... queued > > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > delay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30307, stat=queued > > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: --- 250 2.0.0 i6EHtjfJ001568 > > Message accepted for delivery > > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfK001568: <-- QUIT > > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfK001568: --- 221 2.0.0 > > sage.thought.org closing connection > > I can see that ns1.thought.org is also the "mail exchanger" for the > thought.org domain, but what is toxic.magnesium.net? 'toxic' is the hostname of this machine, magnesium.net. There are few if any spam filters here so if/whenever mail fails to reach me at thoughtt.org, mail *will* gt thru to this site. > > Regarding ns1.thought.org you can't just hope that it all works by > setting the rc.conf variables I mentioned. You also have to set things > up in /etc/mail. Have you changed any configuration files in that > directory? If yes, what were the changes you made? Good points. I began by essentially swapping all of /etc from the Emachine to the HP (here). In /etc/mail originally I had several spam filter sites keeing me from tons of spam. tHE last change I made was to back out of the spam sites so that everything culd get thrru. Here is an ls -lt from /var/spool. drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 20992 Jul 14 18:13 mqueue drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp1536 Jul 14 11:45 clientmqueue drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer512 Jul 13 18:16 lock drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon512 Jun 3 09:58 output drwxrwxr-x 7 uucp uucp 512 Mar 16 09:23 uucp drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 Mar 16 09:23 uucppublic drwx-wx--- 3 root daemon512 Feb 27 02:22 cups drwx-- 2 root daemon512 Jan 10 2004 opielocks drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon512 Jan 10 2004 lpd Much of the stuff in mqueue is junk; some is from the -questions list I subscibed to four or five days ago. Initially, mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] got thru. Mail to me c/o "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (on tao.thought.org, where I live!) has never gotten thru. I think it is still bouncing; it does not even seem to be queued up. ---The only good thig is that since I changed the cable designation on oone server from dc0 to dc1, DCHP instantly gave it an IP addr and I can ssh easily around. The rest of it is a mystery. gary > > -- Gary Kline Seattle BSD Users' Group (seabug) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought Unlimited Org's Alternate Email Site http://www.magnesium.net/~kline To live is not a necessity; but to live honorably...is a necessity. -Kant ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On 2004-07-14 10:58, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used your sendmail config in my rc.conf -- thank you -- and am > watching maillog > > Well. Now mail gets from ns1.thought.org -> toxic.magnesium.net. > Let's se if I can at least get ,mail *thru* to me at ns1. > > Rats. It is still getting queued. > > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > size=307, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > relay=toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15] > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: --- 050 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > queued > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > delay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30307, stat=queued > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: --- 250 2.0.0 i6EHtjfJ001568 > Message accepted for delivery > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfK001568: <-- QUIT > Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfK001568: --- 221 2.0.0 sage.thought.org > closing connection I can see that ns1.thought.org is also the "mail exchanger" for the thought.org domain, but what is toxic.magnesium.net? Regarding ns1.thought.org you can't just hope that it all works by setting the rc.conf variables I mentioned. You also have to set things up in /etc/mail. Have you changed any configuration files in that directory? If yes, what were the changes you made? - Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 10:14:27AM +0100, Jan Grant wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Eric Crist wrote: > > > On Tuesday 13 July 2004 22:19, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > The first of these processes is sendmail started in submit mode by the > > > > > > `rc.sendmail' startup script. The relevant rc.conf options are: > > > : sendmail_enable="NO" > > > : sendmail_submit_enable="YES" > > > : sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m > > > : -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" > > > > > > - Giorgos > > > > Can you exlpain exactly what submit mode is for? Is it something you want > > running on a production mail server? > > Eric, the first three paragraphs of section 1 of RFC 2476 explain this. > > In a nutshell: an MTA is not supposed to "munge" email (apart from > adding Received: headers and the like); however, many local clients > submit via SMTP and the mail server needs to do lots more work: > rewriting email addresses, and so on. The split of sendmail's operation > into MTA (Transmission) and MSA (Submission) is to support this. > This is where I run aground into the mud of confusion. I always thought tat sendmail was just an MTA. Hang the rest. But then, sendmail is getting to reuire a Ph D to use gary PS: everything incomng is still being queued -- Gary Kline Seattle BSD Users' Group (seabug) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought Unlimited Org's Alternate Email Site http://www.magnesium.net/~kline To live is not a necessity; but to live honorably...is a necessity. -Kant ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 06:19:53AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-07-13 16:53, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > At last others can connect (with Windows, e.g.) via my switch. > > ssh connections are still flakey. But mail from ns1/sage to tao > > still fail. > > I'm afraid I've missed the previous messages of the thread (BTW, why are > you posting this as a new thread and not as a followup to the older > stuff? This way I'd probably be able to track the entire thread easier > on groups.google.com). Apologies! I've been having mail troubles at thought.org; a few days ago mail worked on my new DNS server; it no longer works. And even mail between my private network is flakey. At least part of the problem was that things were mis-cabled. > > > Can anybody explain this from /var/log/maillog: > > > > Jul 13 16:36:57 sage sendmail[348]: i6DNavbt000348: \ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=kline (1002/1002), delay=00:00:00, \ > > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30090, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], \ > > dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] > > Jul 13 16:39:55 sage sendmail[351]: i6DNdsqq000351: from=kline, size=40, \ > > class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, \ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Jul 13 16:39:55 sage sendmail[351]: i6DNdsqq000351: [EMAIL PROTECTED], \ > > ctladdr=kline (1002/1002), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, \ > > pri=30040, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, \ > > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] > > > > What I don't understand is the ``Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]'' > > Are you running a local sendmail daemon in 'submit' mode? > > : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sockstat -l4 | grep :25 > : root sendmail 412 4 tcp4 127.0.0.1:25 *:* > : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps xa | grep -v grep | grep sendmail > : 412 ?? Ss 0:01.02 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) > : 418 ?? Is 0:00.08 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:00 for > /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail) > : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > The first of these processes is sendmail started in submit mode by the > `rc.sendmail' startup script. The relevant rc.conf options are: > > : sendmail_enable="NO" > : sendmail_submit_enable="YES" > : sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" > Hm. Last night dhcp wasn't working because my /etc/rc.conf didn't have the right entries. I just grep'd for sendmail, and surpise-surprise, no sendmail entries. For sure, a large part of this Emachines <-> HP switch has been due to poor planning on my part. I mis-assumed tht the main thing would be switching my DSL line and power-cycling mthe router.Lots more to it than that. Iused your sendmail config in my rc.conf--thank you-- and am watching maillog Well. Now mail gets from ns1.thought.org -> toxic.magnesium.net. Let's se if I can at least get ,mail *thru* to me at ns1. Rats. It is still getting queued. Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=307, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15] Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: --- 050 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... queued Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30307, stat=queued Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfJ001568: --- 250 2.0.0 i6EHtjfJ001568 Message accepted for delivery Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfK001568: <-- QUIT Jul 14 10:55:45 sage sendmail[1568]: i6EHtjfK001568: --- 221 2.0.0 sage.thought.org closing connection ideas?? gary > -- Gary Kline Seattle BSD Users' Group (seabug) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought Unlimited Org's Alternate Email Site http://www.magnesium.net/~kline To live is not a necessity; but to live honorably...is a necessity. -Kant ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Eric Crist wrote: > On Tuesday 13 July 2004 22:19, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > The first of these processes is sendmail started in submit mode by the > > > > `rc.sendmail' startup script. The relevant rc.conf options are: > > : sendmail_enable="NO" > > : sendmail_submit_enable="YES" > > : sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m > > : -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" > > > > - Giorgos > > Can you exlpain exactly what submit mode is for? Is it something you want > running on a production mail server? Eric, the first three paragraphs of section 1 of RFC 2476 explain this. In a nutshell: an MTA is not supposed to "munge" email (apart from adding Received: headers and the like); however, many local clients submit via SMTP and the mail server needs to do lots more work: rewriting email addresses, and so on. The split of sendmail's operation into MTA (Transmission) and MSA (Submission) is to support this. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 http://ioctl.org/jan/ Whose kung-fu is the best? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:33:51 -0500 From: Eric Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: closer, no cigar. On Tuesday 13 July 2004 22:19, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The first of these processes is sendmail started in submit mode by > the `rc.sendmail' startup script. The relevant rc.conf options are: > > : sendmail_enable="NO" > : sendmail_submit_enable="YES" > : sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m > : -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" > > - Giorgos Can you exlpain exactly what submit mode is for? Is it something you want running on a production mail server? Thanks. Sendmail's submit mode is described in detail in the ``Sendmail Installation and Operation Guide''. It would be vain and probably worthless to try to duplicate all the information present in there in a mail message. For details of the what, how, why, when and anything else related to the submit mode you should refer to this guide[1], the FreeBSD Handbook, and Sendmail's own web site[2]. Perhaps a small description of submit mode would be enough to help you understand what it is. Quoting section 1.3.3 of the guide referenced above: 1.3.3. /etc/mail/submit.cf This is the configuration file for sendmail when it is used for initial mail submission, in which case it is also called ``Mail Submission Program'' (MSP) in contrast to ``Mail Transfer Agent'' (MTA). Starting with version 8.12, sendmail uses one of two different configuration files based on its operation mode (or the new -A option). For initial mail submission, i.e., if one of the options -bm (default), -bs, or -t is specified, submit.cf is used (if available), for other operations sendmail.cf is used. Details can be found in sendmail/SECURITY. submit.cf is shipped with sendmail (in cf/cf/) and is installed by default. If changes to the configuration need to be made, start with cf/cf/submit.mc and follow the instruction in cf/README. References == [1] ``Sendmail(TM) Installation and Operation Guide''. http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.12/op.html [2] Sendmail's homepage http://www.Sendmail.org/ [3] Sendmail's Message Submission Program (MSP) http://www.sendmail.org/m4/msp.html [4] Description of FEATURE(`msp') http://www.sendmail.org/m4/features.html#msp [5] FreeBSD Handbook Chapter on Electronic Mail http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:33:51 -0500 Eric Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 13 July 2004 22:19, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > The first of these processes is sendmail started in submit mode by the > > > > `rc.sendmail' startup script. The relevant rc.conf options are: > > : sendmail_enable="NO" > > : sendmail_submit_enable="YES" > > : sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m > > : -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" > > > > - Giorgos > > Can you exlpain exactly what submit mode is for? hello, eric! giorgos, if you'll permit me. hmmm... let's see. something about sendmail. ~> apropos sendmail aliases(5) - aliases file for sendmail editmap(8) - query and edit single records in database maps for sendmail makemap(8) - create database maps for sendmail rc.sendmail(8) - sendmail(8) startup script sendmail(8) - an electronic mail transport agent smrsh(8) - restricted shell for sendmail aha. that certainly is quite a few to chose from. well, judging by these descriptions _and_ given the quotation marks kindly offered by giorgos up above, 'rc.sendmail' certainly seems to be the most likely candidate. hey, we've got time on our hands, so let's give that a try... ~> man rc.sendmail rc.sendmail -- sendmail(8) startup script sendmail_submit_enable (bool) If set to ``YES'' and... sendmail_submit_flags (str) If sendmail_enable is set to ``NO'' ... what do ya know! we figured it out _and_ on our first try. > Is it something you want running on a production mail server? now that you know what it is... for my part, i dunno. i don't run sendmail. perhaps someone could share with us their thoughts? hth, epi > Thanks. > -- > Eric F Crist > > Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry, and the world WILL turn. > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 22:19, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The first of these processes is sendmail started in submit mode by the > > `rc.sendmail' startup script. The relevant rc.conf options are: > : sendmail_enable="NO" > : sendmail_submit_enable="YES" > : sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m > : -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" > > - Giorgos Can you exlpain exactly what submit mode is for? Is it something you want running on a production mail server? Thanks. -- Eric F Crist Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry, and the world WILL turn. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: closer, no cigar.
On 2004-07-13 16:53, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At last others can connect (with Windows, e.g.) via my switch. > ssh connections are still flakey. But mail from ns1/sage to tao > still fail. I'm afraid I've missed the previous messages of the thread (BTW, why are you posting this as a new thread and not as a followup to the older stuff? This way I'd probably be able to track the entire thread easier on groups.google.com). > Can anybody explain this from /var/log/maillog: > > Jul 13 16:36:57 sage sendmail[348]: i6DNavbt000348: \ > [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=kline (1002/1002), delay=00:00:00, \ > xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30090, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], \ > dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] > Jul 13 16:39:55 sage sendmail[351]: i6DNdsqq000351: from=kline, size=40, \ > class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, \ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 13 16:39:55 sage sendmail[351]: i6DNdsqq000351: [EMAIL PROTECTED], \ > ctladdr=kline (1002/1002), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, \ > pri=30040, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, \ > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] > > What I don't understand is the ``Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]'' Are you running a local sendmail daemon in 'submit' mode? : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sockstat -l4 | grep :25 : root sendmail 412 4 tcp4 127.0.0.1:25 *:* : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps xa | grep -v grep | grep sendmail : 412 ?? Ss 0:01.02 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) : 418 ?? Is 0:00.08 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail) : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ The first of these processes is sendmail started in submit mode by the `rc.sendmail' startup script. The relevant rc.conf options are: : sendmail_enable="NO" : sendmail_submit_enable="YES" : sendmail_submit_flags="-L smtpd -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" - Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"