Re: docs

2012-08-17 Thread Cos
2012/8/17 кузнецов иван kia00...@rambler.ru



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 how to open RU_FREEBSD_DOC_20111014.TBZ under windows? several program
 cant,i was attempt.7zip cant.


Please try powerarchiver


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Re: docs/98344: [patch] An update of the article Choosing the FreeBSD Version that is Right for You

2006-06-04 Thread Duane Whitty
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 02:10:08AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you very much for your problem report.
 It has the internal identification `docs/98344'.
 The individual assigned to look at your
 report is: freebsd-doc. 
 
 You can access the state of your problem report at any time
 via this link:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=98344
 
 Category:   docs
 Responsible:freebsd-doc
 Synopsis:   [patch] An update of the article Choosing the FreeBSD 
 Version that is Right for You
 Arrival-Date:   Fri Jun 02 02:10:08 GMT 2006

Hi,

If anyone is interested in taking a look at the article [1]
I finally submitted it is posted on my site along with the
diff [2], as per the above PR.  This is a merge of my article
that only covered version labels with the existing article
Choosing the FreeBSD Version that is Right for You. I botched
the link to the patch in the PR (forgot the colon in http://, sorry)

[1]Choosing the FreeBSD Version that is Right for You
http://www.dwlabs.ca/freebsd/docs/version-guide/article.html

[2]version-guide.diff

http://www.dwlabs.ca/freebsd/docs/version-guide/version-guide.diff

As always I look forward to any constructive feedback should anyone have
the time and desire to give some.  That goes for both the article and
the actual PR (I've never submitted a PR for something like this before).

Sincerely,

Duane Whitty
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Re: docs/94587: Error in ftpusers(5) manpage

2006-03-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On 19/3/06 18:40, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  All of the man pages belonging to NetBSD's FTP daemon should be renamed so
  that they don't conflict, because this is too confusing.  I recommend that
  this PR get assigned to whoever does the import of the lukemftpd stuff.

Turns out I raised a PR for this 3.5 years ago: docs/44519.

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Re: docs/94587: Error in ftpusers(5) manpage

2006-03-19 Thread Ceri Davies
Whoops, wrong list.

Ceri

On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 07:43:32PM +, Ceri Davies wrote:
 On 19/3/06 18:40, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   All of the man pages belonging to NetBSD's FTP daemon should be renamed so
   that they don't conflict, because this is too confusing.  I recommend that
   this PR get assigned to whoever does the import of the lukemftpd stuff.
 
 Turns out I raised a PR for this 3.5 years ago: docs/44519.
 
 Ceri

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Re: docs

2005-04-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-04-06 11:14, Don Kuzenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a number of machines running FreeBSD and I would like to create
 a local mirror of the documentation available on the FreeBSD website.
 My problem is that I currently have a dial up connection (rural living
 :-)

 Is there a simple way to obtain a tarball of a mirror of the docs so
 that I can access the docs via a browser on my machine.

If you only need HTML docs, I can build you a snapshot with a couple of
formats, like FORMATS=html html-split, and upload it somewhere where
you can grab it at your leisure.

If you prefer copying the files yourself, you can recursively retrieve a
copy of /pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 from one of the FTP mirrors.

- Giorgos

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Re: docs

2005-04-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2005-04-06 11:14, Don Kuzenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a number of machines running FreeBSD and I would like to create
  a local mirror of the documentation available on the FreeBSD website.
  My problem is that I currently have a dial up connection (rural living
  :-)
 
  Is there a simple way to obtain a tarball of a mirror of the docs so
  that I can access the docs via a browser on my machine.
 
 If you only need HTML docs, I can build you a snapshot with a couple of
 formats, like FORMATS=html html-split, and upload it somewhere where
 you can grab it at your leisure.
 
 If you prefer copying the files yourself, you can recursively retrieve a
 copy of /pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 from one of the FTP mirrors.

I think the data cvsup collection might serve the purpose nicely too.
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Re: docs

2005-04-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 06 Apr 2005 10:59:07 -0400
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On 2005-04-06 11:14, Don Kuzenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have a number of machines running FreeBSD and I would like to
   create a local mirror of the documentation available on the
   FreeBSD website. My problem is that I currently have a dial up
   connection (rural living :-)
  
   Is there a simple way to obtain a tarball of a mirror of the docs
   so that I can access the docs via a browser on my machine.
  
  If you only need HTML docs, I can build you a snapshot with a couple
  of formats, like FORMATS=html html-split, and upload it somewhere
  where you can grab it at your leisure.
  
  If you prefer copying the files yourself, you can recursively
  retrieve a copy of /pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 from one of the
  FTP mirrors.
 
 I think the data cvsup collection might serve the purpose nicely
 too.

if the modem is a 2400bps then it might also be good to look at
/usr/share/doc, as e.g. the handbook is there ;-)

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Re: docs

2005-04-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-04-06 17:26, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2005-04-06 11:14, Don Kuzenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a simple way to obtain a tarball of a mirror of the docs so
 that I can access the docs via a browser on my machine.

 If you only need HTML docs, I can build you a snapshot with a couple of
 formats, like FORMATS=html html-split, and upload it somewhere where
 you can grab it at your leisure.

Ok, I just uploaded a snapshot build from today's doc/ tree at:

http://keramida.serverhive.com/freebsd/doc/snapshots/current/en/

The compressed tarballs of html-split and html output formats are
relatively small (about 2.7 MB each), and they have been built with
URL_RELPREFIX=yes to make local browsing easier.

I have been planning to install a local tinderbox for the doc/ tree for
a while now, so this may be a good chance to do it and add the necessary
smarts for automatic uploading of successful builds ;-)

- Giorgos

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RE: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-02-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathon
 McKitrick
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:05 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Docs for Berkeley Make?


 On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:20:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 : The difference is in the extra candy, which you really don't
 need or want
 : to use anyway, unless the project becomes gigantic.
 :
 : There's only a handful of open source projects out there
 which justify
 : the extra
 : fancy crapoola in GNU make, in my experience.  Unfortunately there's
 : far too many of them that require gmake simply because the programmer
 : became enamored of some gimgaw in gmake that had a high
 coolness factor.
 : It is really sad to see software that consists of about 10
 source files,
 : that has a makefile that's so non-standard that it requires gmake.

 Well, I was just using existing BSD makefiles to learn with.
 But then I got
 interested in learning libraries.  I'm still trying to find a tool or
 shortcut for handling sonames the best way.

 But then I found out we are doing a very large project on
 Linux.  I want to
 make it work on both RH Linux (the target) and FreeBSD (to
 work on/use at
 home, of course).  I've been learning about the GNU autotools,
 which seem
 very finicky, to say the least, but at the same time I don't
 have to worry
 about details, like linux-vs-BSD library details  And it would
 be easy to
 handle, for instance, the difference between the names of
 serial ports on
 the 2 platforms.

 If this were only for BSD, I'd use the makefile framework.
 But it's not.
 And it's going to be a large enough project that I don't have
 the time to
 constantly fiddle with makefiles and such.  And obviously,
 this also has to
 work with CVS.

 I'm the only developer with *any* real Unix experience, and that's very
 modest experience, to say the least.

 Any other ideas I should look into?


I think the GNU autotools are what you want.  And there is no
prerequisite
to use gmake with them.

The biggest problem with the autotools is that too many programmers
get the idea that the way to use the autotools is to copy some other
project's configuration and just edit it a bit and slap it into their
program.  In other words a short cut.  Be warned, this is very bad.
You really need to read all the autotools documents, digest them,
and write your configs from scratch.  You don't want people laughing
at you because your checking for libcrypt yet nothing in your program
requires it.

Ted

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RE: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-02-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 McKitrick
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:12 AM
 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt
 Subject: Re: Docs for Berkeley Make?


 On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 01:23:23PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 :  Older revisions of the O'Reilly book cover the Berkeley make.
 :
 : No, unfortunately not.  Firstly this is a completely different book,
 : and secondly the old (Oram/Talbott) book also didn't cover Berkeley
 : Make.  There's a little in my book Porting UNIX Software (out of
 : print but available at http://www.lemis.com/grog/PUS/.  It's not very
 : much, though.

 Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.  I have a new project
 at work which
 will be developed under Linux, and I was hoping to write makefiles that
 would work under both OSes using the same make command.  But
 now I'm not
 so sure that will work.  I don't understand why BSD make and GNU make
 diverged so much.


They didn't diverge.  Both have a set of core commands that they
understand.
The difference is in the extra candy, which you really don't need or want
to use anyway, unless the project becomes gigantic.

There's only a handful of open source projects out there which justify
the extra
fancy crapoola in GNU make, in my experience.  Unfortunately there's
far too many of them that require gmake simply because the programmer
became enamored of some gimgaw in gmake that had a high coolness factor.
It is really sad to see software that consists of about 10 source files,
that has a makefile that's so non-standard that it requires gmake.

Ted

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Re: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-02-04 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:20:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: The difference is in the extra candy, which you really don't need or want
: to use anyway, unless the project becomes gigantic.
: 
: There's only a handful of open source projects out there which justify
: the extra
: fancy crapoola in GNU make, in my experience.  Unfortunately there's
: far too many of them that require gmake simply because the programmer
: became enamored of some gimgaw in gmake that had a high coolness factor.
: It is really sad to see software that consists of about 10 source files,
: that has a makefile that's so non-standard that it requires gmake.

Well, I was just using existing BSD makefiles to learn with.  But then I got
interested in learning libraries.  I'm still trying to find a tool or
shortcut for handling sonames the best way.

But then I found out we are doing a very large project on Linux.  I want to
make it work on both RH Linux (the target) and FreeBSD (to work on/use at
home, of course).  I've been learning about the GNU autotools, which seem
very finicky, to say the least, but at the same time I don't have to worry
about details, like linux-vs-BSD library details  And it would be easy to
handle, for instance, the difference between the names of serial ports on
the 2 platforms.

If this were only for BSD, I'd use the makefile framework.  But it's not.
And it's going to be a large enough project that I don't have the time to
constantly fiddle with makefiles and such.  And obviously, this also has to
work with CVS.

I'm the only developer with *any* real Unix experience, and that's very
modest experience, to say the least.

Any other ideas I should look into?


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Re: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-02-03 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 01:23:23PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
:  Older revisions of the O'Reilly book cover the Berkeley make.
: 
: No, unfortunately not.  Firstly this is a completely different book,
: and secondly the old (Oram/Talbott) book also didn't cover Berkeley
: Make.  There's a little in my book Porting UNIX Software (out of
: print but available at http://www.lemis.com/grog/PUS/.  It's not very
: much, though.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.  I have a new project at work which
will be developed under Linux, and I was hoping to write makefiles that
would work under both OSes using the same make command.  But now I'm not
so sure that will work.  I don't understand why BSD make and GNU make
diverged so much.

P.S.  Greg, my wife just bought me a homebrew kit for our 1-year
anniversary.  I found your homebrew pages (especially the BSD-based
temperature controller) quite enlightening.  :-)


jm
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Re: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-02-01 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Broken wrapping.

On Saturday, 29 January 2005 at 17:47:29 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 On  Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:53 PM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
 I just got the O'Reilly book on GNU Make, but I'd really like to
 focus on Berkeley Make when possible.

 Older revisions of the O'Reilly book cover the Berkeley make.

No, unfortunately not.  Firstly this is a completely different book,
and secondly the old (Oram/Talbott) book also didn't cover Berkeley
Make.  There's a little in my book Porting UNIX Software (out of
print but available at http://www.lemis.com/grog/PUS/.  It's not very
much, though.

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RE: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-01-30 Thread Murray Taylor
On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 12:47, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
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  McKitrick
  Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:53 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Docs for Berkeley Make?
  
  
  
  Hi all,
  
  I just got the O'Reilly book on GNU Make, but I'd really like 
  to focus on
  Berkeley Make when possible. 
 
 Older revisions of the O'Reilly book cover the Berkeley make.
 
 Ted


zmore /usr/share/doc/psd/12.make/paper.ascii.gz

will tell you about Pmake which is very close to the original 
Berkeley Make I think.

mjt


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Re: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-01-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-01-29 20:53, Jonathon McKitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just got the O'Reilly book on GNU Make, but I'd really like to focus
 on Berkeley Make when possible.  Where can I find some good examples
 (other than the source tree makefiles, which are very complex) and
 documentation on the differences between the two versions of make?

If you have the doc package set installed, look in:

/usr/share/doc/psd/12.make

If not, the same documents are available as part of the online FreeBSD
documentation set:

http://docs.FreeBSD.org/

This is not a comparison of GNU make and BSD make.  It's just a guide
for BSD make.  I believe it's a guide that is better than trying to
decipher the makefiles of the src/ tree.  AFAIK, the latter tend to
depend on a lot of features of the src/share/mk/* stuff, which are not
necessarily available and do not work exactly the same with all versions
of BSD make out there.

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RE: Docs for Berkeley Make?

2005-01-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathon
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 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:53 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Docs for Berkeley Make?
 
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just got the O'Reilly book on GNU Make, but I'd really like 
 to focus on
 Berkeley Make when possible. 

Older revisions of the O'Reilly book cover the Berkeley make.

Ted
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Re: docs for lowend systems

2003-01-20 Thread Anti
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:03:43 -0500
Joshua Coombs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've started putting together some docs based on my abuse of FreeBSD on less 
 than optimal x86 platforms.  My current drivel is at 
 http://www.x386.net/lowmem.html (warning, the page is rated NC17 for 
 language and cruelty to old computers).  Would there be any interest in a 
 properly formated, language corrected version to include in the handbook or 
 other appropriate spot in the official documentation?


why recommend vga for such low-end systems? pcvt instead of sc+vga saves
a couple mb ram and makes the kernel a bit smaller...

and even mentioning 5.x for a 386 is just wrong...


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